Is the PR process worth it considering new bill C-24

[NishiGogetter]

Folks,

What do you think ? Simple question.

With more stringent Citizenship rules coming, is all this PR process worth it?

We work so hard, get the PR visa, we land , they do not recognize foreign degres/experience, we work
on survival jobs, try to come up and back again to original field of work..its not easy, few make it, few
do not..many remain stuck in Survival jobs or promote to better survival jobs.

With the new rule of 4 years out of 6 years and Most importantly even if we somehow manage the
4 years of 6 stuff and apply for Citizenship , there is again the clause that citizenship can just be revoked
if we do not stay in the country.

So much of uncertainty at end of process , gun on head (revoke of citizenship) all time if not staying.

Is this not too much? OR I am missing anything?

Nishi

 

[us2yow]

Once you become Canadian you can go do whatever you want, including in theory living on the moon away from increasingly dysfunctional humanity

But, yes, the intent to reside clause is until you become a citizen and thereafter just like any (native) Canadian you are free to do as you please and go where you want.

 

[quasar81]

Once you become Canadian you can go do whatever you want, including in theory living on the moon away from increasingly dysfunctional humanity

But, yes, the intent to reside clause is until you become a citizen and thereafter just like any (native) Canadian you are free to do as you please and go where you want.

So, did I get it correct here, experienced folks on this forum please guide -
There must be an "intent" to reside in US when you apply for citizenship. Thereafter, once citizenship received - ALL CITIZENS ARE EQUAL - clause kick in and can move to moon or wherever....

 

[CanadianCountry]

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" "intent" to reside in US when you apply for citizenship" "

Dude your intent is all wrong.

So, did I get it correct here, experienced folks on this forum please guide -
There must be an "intent" to reside in US when you apply for citizenship. Thereafter, once citizenship received - ALL CITIZENS ARE EQUAL - clause kick in and can move to moon or wherever....

 

[samreentariq]

The questions really an individual has to ask themselves if it is worth their time and investment. Along with the new Citizenship laws PR processes have already been changed to the new 'Express Entry' where if you qualify above a certain amount of points you will get invited for PR. So long story short at this stage each individual needs to evaluate their situation and ascertain if they and can go through it all.

 

[NishiGogetter]

Fine the pain (if any) moves 1 year due to 3/4 to 4/6 rule.

But my main point is "revoking the citizenship once granted" as per new rule, if you do not stay in the country.

So all your time/money/hardship investment is gone post you are granted the citizenship, is'nt it too much?

Are we certain of the future that once we get the citizenship, we will continue to stay in Canada only, though
we intent to, but then there is life and situation as well.

 

[MUFC]

Don't worry , once you get your citizenship you can leave Canada for good like many other people without losing your citizenship just because you left Canada.

 

[NishiGogetter]

http://niftynotcool.com/2014/05/21/bill-c-24-is-an-insult-to-all-canadians/

The new law will make it easier for the government to take away your citizenship in the following ways:

1. For all naturalized citizens, a federal government official can revoke your citizenship if he believes you never intended to live in Canada. This could happen if you decide to study in, accept a job in, or reside in another country. In contrast, Canadian citizens born in Canada cannot lose their citizenship by living outside of Canada.

2. For Canadians with potential dual citizenship, an official may remove your citizenship for a criminal conviction in another country, even if the other country is undemocratic or lacks the rule of law. The official may also remove your citizenship for certain serious criminal convictions in Canada, even if you have already served your sentence in Canada.

3. The power to remove your citizenship will be given to an official of Citizenship and Immigration Canada. The decision may be made in writing with no opportunity for you to speak to the official. Under the current law [i.e. as it stands now, prior to the passing of C-24], to take away your citizenship, the government must make an application to a Federal Court judge where you will have an oral hearing to defend your right to citizenship.

 

[MUFC]

The intend to reside in Canada is only until the Oath. On the other hand that will make the processing time longer after the submission of the application to CIC. But after the Oath you can leave Canada as much as you want without your citizenship being revoked just because you've left Canada.

Don't think that you going to be the only one leaving this country, many far too many people are waiting here for that beautiful day when they will pack their luggage and leave for good.

 

[CanadianCountry]

But only after 3-5 years of case processing.

The intend to reside in Canada is only until the Oath. On the other hand that will make the processing time longer after the submission of the application to CIC. But after the Oath you can leave Canada as much as you want without your citizenship being revoked just because you've left Canada.

Don't think that you going to be the only one leaving this country, many far too many people are waiting here for that beautiful day when they will pack their luggage and leave for good.

 

[MUFC]

Actually I would give advice to the people to apply for another PR card, because the first one will definitely expire while they are waiting for their citizenship application to get fully processed.
Be ready for long wait guys.

 

[NishiGogetter]

But only after 3-5 years of case processing.

3-5 years since the citizenship application is filed? So total of around 8-10 years since received the PR?

 

[CanadianCountry]

Yes. 8-10 years since receiving PR. That is the new reality, like it or not.

3-5 years since the citizenship application is filed? So total of around 8-10 years since received the PR?

 

[NishiGogetter]

Ah, this is painful, in that case even if someone gets a rightful job in his chosen field/domain, the business scenarios could lead to layoffs etc...just a normal situation.

Its like sustaining your Canadian job for 10 years , how can one guarantee?

 

[scylla]

But only after 3-5 years of case processing.

Processing time for citizenship is generally not 3-5 years. Yes - some cases still take time. However we've also seen a number of people get through this year in less than six months. My husband received RQ (quick makes the process quite a bit longer) and still received citizenship in a year.