Is Canadian Government shutting down Live in Caregiver program ????????????????

[LCPcaregiver]

It sure looks like the Canadian Government seems to be putting the breaks on the Live in caregiver program.

Remember last year when Minister Kenney announced the “significent improvements “to the Live in caregiver program and all the l caregiver groups cheered him on.

My friends and I think that it was actually a ploy to decrease the applications on the program.
By Open Work Permit taking longer, caregiver have to work longer as a live in caregivers.

It is much harder now to be employed as a live in caregiver in Canada, my friends overseas asking me to help them but I am unable to find them a job .
My former family in Windsor says that the government made the LCP “intentially unappealing to Canadian families" so there are not hiring as many caregivers anymore…..

I don’t know if it is true but sure almost impossible to find an employer now.

What are your thoughts ?

 

[Leon]

I don't know if they are shutting down the program but you can see that they are making it harder for anybody to immigrate.

Temporary workers are now limited to 4 years on a work permit. After that they must go home for 4.

The skilled worker program was first limited to 38 occupations, then to 29 with CAPS of 1000 per NOC and now they are cutting those CAPS in half.

I suppose that the future is that if you can get a skilled job in Canada, you will be able to immigrate and with a low skilled job, you can just do your allowed time and then go home again.

 

[cats_lover]

In case they shut down the Caregiver program, im wondering what would happen to the people we are already in the program, i mean i would understand if they dont acept any new people in it, but the rest of us? they can do something like this?
Im only 7 months away of finishing my 2 years and i would die if cant apply after all this time ive been in the program , suffering with this job!
Any toughts?

 

[Bambiegirl]

In case they shut down the Caregiver program, im wondering what would happen to the people we are already in the program, i mean i would understand if they dont acept any new people in it, but the rest of us? they can do something like this?
Im only 7 months away of finishing my 2 years and i would die if cant apply after all this time ive been in the program , suffering with this job!
Any toughts?

They're not shutting down....longer processing time means..employers wont hire overseas...limiting the entry. If and if in any case they're going to end LCP, don't worry cats_lover you wont be affected with that...cheers my friend!

 

[PMM]

Hi

They're not shutting down....longer processing time means..employers wont hire overseas...limiting the entry. If and if in any case they're going to end LCP, don't worry cats_lover you wont be affected with that...cheers my friend!

Remember a lot of Canadian employers can't/won't go through the hoops for POLO in the Philippines, so they will look elsewhere for LCPs.

 

[LCPcaregiver]

They're not shutting down....longer processing time means..employers wont hire overseas...limiting the entry. If and if in any case they're going to end LCP, don't worry cats_lover you wont be affected with that...cheers my friend!

Agreed, it is almost like the Government doesn't want Canadian families hire Filipino caregivers anymore.
Hong Kong & Taiwan used to be fast processing embassies now Taiwan is closed down and Hong Kong is taking longer and longer.

I think families will be looking at other countries because they can not wait 2 years for a caregiver.

Too bad, all the promises the government made to help us pinoys, empty words like our own politicians back in the Philippines.

 

[Leon]

Agreed, it is almost like the Government doesn't want Canadian families hire Filipino caregivers anymore.

You mean the government in the Philippines then? The government of Canada did not bring POLO.

As for people having taken short cuts through Taiwan or Hong Kong in the past, those visa offices are there mainly to process the locals and not to help people from the Philippines bypass the rules of their own government.

 

[Bambiegirl]

Hi

Remember a lot of Canadian employers can't/won't go through the hoops for POLO in the Philippines, so they will look elsewhere for LCPs.

Employers can hire anywhere in their most convenient way.What i'm trying to emphasize is: the government is limiting the entries of low skilled workers (as well as high skilled)...longer processing times for LCPs in Canada means they will stay with their employers...not hiring a new one yet which in any case would be a new entry of LCP. ;D

 

[Bambiegirl]

You mean the government in the Philippines then? The government of Canada did not bring POLO.

As for people having taken short cuts through Taiwan or Hong Kong in the past, those visa offices are there mainly to process the locals and not to help people from the Philippines bypass the rules of their own government.

You're right! The Canadian government didn't bring POLO...
As for the short cuts...I wouldn't agree if its that short...Filipinos who are in Taiwan or Hongkong worked there for years before they apply here in Canada...well they figure out that its not a greener pasture for them. They did not bypass the Philippine law since they go through the same loop holes in going out of the country....everybody does.

 

[Bambiegirl]

Quote from: LCPcaregiver on June 29, 2011, 05:01:30 pm
Agreed, it is almost like the Government doesn't want Canadian families hire Filipino caregivers anymore.

I didn't say that "Government doesn't want Canadian families hire Filipino caregivers anymore"
What I'm saying is: the government is limiting the entries of low skilled workers (as well as high skilled)...longer processing times for LCPs in Canada means they will stay with their employers...not hiring a new one yet which in any case would be a new entry of LCP.
I'm referring to LCPs who are in Canada already regardless of race be it Asians, Chinese, Africans....etc...etc...

 

[Leon]

Maybe you are right, maybe the government doesn't want people to hire foreign live-in caregivers any more. I think this is a unique program where a low skilled worker gets to come to Canada, do their time and then gets PR for themselves and their whole family. Only live-in caregivers can do this. Other low skilled workers do not get the opportunity to get PR in most cases. There are a handful of supported occupations in BC and AB where this is possible but with all kinds of restrictions towards the employer, how long they must have worked etc. plus it is completely up to the employer if they want to sponsor them or not and they must continue to work for the same employer until they have the PR.

I haven't heard of any plans to cut the program but it is possible that they do plan to or maybe they will just make it harder to encourage families to find other solutions.

 

[rjessome]

Maybe you are right, maybe the government doesn't want people to hire foreign live-in caregivers any more. I think this is a unique program where a low skilled worker gets to come to Canada, do their time and then gets PR for themselves and their whole family. Only live-in caregivers can do this. Other low skilled workers do not get the opportunity to get PR in most cases. There are a handful of supported occupations in BC and AB where this is possible but with all kinds of restrictions towards the employer, how long they must have worked etc. plus it is completely up to the employer if they want to sponsor them or not and they must continue to work for the same employer until they have the PR.

I haven't heard of any plans to cut the program but it is possible that they do plan to or maybe they will just make it harder to encourage families to find other solutions.

I HIGHLY doubt they want to cut this program. It's cheap for the government! Especially when it comes to elderly care. There are no plans to cut it. And where did the other poster get the stats or report on limiting the numbers of low skilled workers that would be allowed entry? I'd like to see that.

POLO is awful!!! And so is POEA. I know an employer that is having his TFW from the Philippines say that he is going on a holiday in Singapore and THEN is departing to Canada from there to avoid these groups.

 

[Bambiegirl]

"And where did the other poster get the stats or report on limiting the numbers of low skilled workers that would be allowed entry?"

Well, what would you suggest? they even limit it to a 4yr work and you still say they're not limiting? longer processing for LCPs mean you're still working with the same employer instead of hiring from overseas....tighter immigration policies...

 

[Quickquestion]

It is unlikely a conspiracy/ploy as you suggest. The new regulations were IMO put in place for the reason the govt said they were putting them into place, to protect the live-in from unfair employment practices.

The new application system will screen out all the deadbeat employers that wanted to take advantage of these desperate foreign workers.

Only families willing to pay fair wages for all hours worked, provide a comfortable independent living arrangement, and pay and report taxes, need apply.

 

[Bambiegirl]

Good if that's the intention but why wont they solve what's happening right now as well? Being live in with specific employer work permit is vulnerable of abuse. IMO