Is "Background Check" the same as police check

[LCS]

Is the term "background check" the same thing as the police/prison/judicial records that are requested? If so, the Lima Embassy has lost the ones my husband hand delivered the first week of February 2008.
If they are different, we were never contacted to tell us that some final information needed to be submitted even though I wrote many times since May 26 to confirm if they needed anything and what was our status.
My MP's office contacted me today to say they finally received a reply from CIC Ottawa which reported our electronic file showed our case was "awaiting background checks before the visa could be issued".
Now, I don't know if there is yet ANOTHER step of them confirming that the police/prison/judicial check are also legitimate documents? Are those verified for authenticity even thought they've been issued and stamped by those various divisions?
If not, they have lost the ones he hand delivered in Feb and haven't bothered to let us know. They even acknowledged on April 16 that they had sent his file to an officer for a "final review". That sounds to me like they had complete paperwork with nothing missing if it was going for a final review. The two stories are very different. Will be getting my MP to sort out this foul up.

 

[PMM]

Hi

Is the term "background check" the same thing as the police/prison/judicial records that are requested? If so, the Lima Embassy has lost the ones my husband hand delivered the first week of February 2008.
If they are different, we were never contacted to tell us that some final information needed to be submitted even though I wrote many times since May 26 to confirm if they needed anything and what was our status.
My MP's office contacted me today to say they finally received a reply from CIC Ottawa which reported our electronic file showed our case was "awaiting background checks before the visa could be issued".
Now, I don't know if there is yet ANOTHER step of them confirming that the police/prison/judicial check are also legitimate documents? Are those verified for authenticity even thought they've been issued and stamped by those various divisions?
If not, they have lost the ones he hand delivered in Feb and haven't bothered to let us know. They even acknowledged on April 16 that they had sent his file to an officer for a "final review". That sounds to me like they had complete paperwork with nothing missing if it was going for a final review. The two stories are very different. Will be getting my MP to sort out this foul up.

No, background checks are done by CSIS with no input from either the applicant or CIC. They are entirely different from Criminal Records Checks.


PMM

 

[LCS]

Hi

No, background checks are done by CSIS with no input from either the applicant or CIC. They are entirely different from Criminal Records Checks.


PMM
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We already went through one entire year of CSIS doing a background check on his military service before we moved forward with this renewal of medical, police and passport. Why would there need to be another seemingly equally lengthy term of repeating the same thing with just renewed police records? Especially when everyone has said that once they had the renewed docs and had asked for the passport, that WAS the final stage and people have been reporting only a matter of 2 weeks to less than two months to be issued the final PR Visa? It's now been 3 1/2 months since they've had his passport. Why the difference in why others are issued a PR Visa in only weeks if they are undergoing ANOTHER CSIS background check at the very end? This makes no sense.

 

[locolynn]

LCS I want to cry for you. How do you not give up? I'm serious. Karim and I have been at it for a year now and we're already talking "plan b's". Do you get to go and see your husband often?

Lynn

 

[LCS]

LCS I want to cry for you. How do you not give up? I'm serious. Karim and I have been at it for a year now and we're already talking "plan b's". Do you get to go and see your husband often?

Lynn

I have not been to visit since November 2006. Last spring I changed jobs and couldn't go because of the time. But I thought even at that point "it would be soon, it would be soon". So I didn't bother to plan a visit. Even in Feb after they'd done the ONE ENTIRE YEAR of background check and CSIS, and started asking for renewed docs I knew it was going forward again and figured when they said in mid April it was in a "final review" I thought since EVERYONE ELSE seemed to be gettting the PR Visa issued in under 2 months after the passport was given, that we would be DONE by June and he would be here.
I have NO IDEA why a second round of this "background check" CSIS CRAP appears to be happening AGAIN when they just got done with the last one in Feb. This is absolute and utter BS.

 

[infocompldh]

It is good not to mention that you had served in the army. Some ddidn't mentioned in the forms that they had served in the army and they get through the CSIS background check process easily. From experience if you tell the truth you are more in trouble.

Why army background check take 1 year. Can't it be done quickly.

It is weired.......................

 

[LCS]

RIIIIIIGHT, and LYING about your history and personal information is the way to go? If you ever got caught you'd never be allowed in the country, or you would have to start over or wait a certain time period before trying again.
See isn't this ironic, we've chosen the completely honest and open way of doing our PR application, yet we are considered guilty until cleared. This person is saying to lie and that others have lied and gotten away with it and gotten their PR. Sure makes it look like it doesn't pay to be honest.
THIS is the type of thing that makes me want to cry, doing things the honest way and being screwed over.

 

[infocompldh]

Your background check is done. They are not going to do it again. They need current police certificate at the time of issue of visa.

So u r almost done. You can email to chc and asked them why it is taking so long now. Hope fully they will speed up the process for you.

 

[LCS]

Re: "Background Check" PMM why a 2nd CSIS?

Your background check is done. They are not going to do it again. They need current police certificate at the time of issue of visa.

So u r almost done. You can email to chc and asked them why it is taking so long now. Hope fully they will speed up the process for you.

You might want to go back and check my previous postings for our timeline. The military investigation took ONE YEAR from Feb 2007 to Feb 2008 and during that time the case was also reviewed by CSIS so a CSIS background check was already done.
Then they asked for and were given renewed medical and police report in the first week of Feb 2008. They asked for and where given renewed passport on April 1, 2008. On April 16 they confirmed the case had already been given to an officer for a final review. Everyone posting on this site and Trackitt.com has noted 2 to 8 weeks after the passport is turned in until the PR Visa is issued. Our case has been with an officer for a "final review" since at least April 16 but now my MP says it is awaiting a background check.
I am completely confused as to why it seems to be sitting with CSIS yet again when they just finished a CSIS check in Feb and we were told we were at the "final review" stage, not that it would be undergoing yet another active CSIS investigation. WHY??? thx

 

[infocompldh]

Did the CHC told you that your background check is completed by CSIS in Feb 2007 to feb 2208. If yes then you can show that proof to your MP.

This is one of armed forces guy cases from new Delhi

It took almost 3 years for my sponsorship application to be read and approved! But within 3 months of them applying in Delhi in April 2006, my parents got a letter asking all the questions and also they were asked to do their medcal. Then they were asked to submit passports a month or 2 later. So we thought that it will come quick. But one year passed and the medical expired with no update. Then they sent the passports back and asked to do medical one more time back in Oct 2007. After that I kept emailing to get an update and finally got a reply last week saying that they have sent a letter asking for passports again and to fill out foreign travel document form (this is routine as far as I know). So now I am hoping that they get it quick but it may take a few months again.

My parents had a 5 year visitor visa given to them by canada before so no problem there. So it is not a problem for armed forces people to get visa/

 

[LCS]

Did the CHC told you that your background check is completed by CSIS in Feb 2007 to feb 2208. If yes then you can show that proof to your MP.

This is one of armed forces guy cases from new Delhi

I am assuming it was completely done at that time, why else would they have asked for renewed medical, police check and especially the passport. People have said when it comes to the time they have asked for the passport it is the FINAL step. I was TOLD in an email on April 16, 2008 that our case was WITH an officer for a final review. That is NOT the same as continuing with another active CSIS check. I have no idea what they are doing, and I think NEITHER DO THEY!!!

 

[infocompldh]

what i think is that probably the final visa officer might had found something on background check(it can be related to your regiment, wars that your regiment had faught and your role in those wars) and he had ordered some more detailed inquiry on that.

But it is weired way the CSIS work and do their background check.

 

[LCS]

what i think is that probably the final visa officer might had found something on background check(it can be related to your regiment, wars that your regiment had faught and your role in those wars) and he had ordered some more detailed inquiry on that.

But it is weired way the CSIS work and do their background check.

There should be no reason to start another check when one was just finished in Feb. No information has changed. He was a clerk in a supply office posting. Hardly a terrorist. Never left his city, never participated in anything to do with active field service.

 

[breatheeasy86]

Also another doubt. Is is the back ground check from the Canada or from the country from where the person is visiting from. As getting a passport itself means a thorough Police Check, I think there might not be a need of a similar checks.