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People say that "Intent to reside" applies till oath ONLY.

Please answer the posted question:
Q)How does the "Intent to Reside" applies to a candidate who took oath of citizenship, and the next year itself files tax return as a non-resident?
 

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CanadianCountry said:
People say that "Intent to reside" applies till oath ONLY.

Please answer the posted question:
Q)How does the "Intent to Reside" applies to a candidate who took oath of citizenship, and the next year itself files tax return as a non-resident?
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No effect
 

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Great to know that. And wow It took so long for somebody to answer.

CanV said:
CanadianCountry said:
People say that "Intent to reside" applies till oath ONLY.

Please answer the posted question:
Q)How does the "Intent to Reside" applies to a candidate who took oath of citizenship, and the next year itself files tax return as a non-resident?
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No effect
 

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CanadianCountry said:
Great to know that. And wow It took so long for somebody to answer.
What will be the consequences according to you?

Let me guess... citizenship revocation right ;D ;D ;D
 

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CanadianCountry said:
Great to know that. And wow It took so long for somebody to answer.
You post in the evening and someone answers the next morning and instead of saying "thanks", you complain it took too long? ::)
 

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keesio said:
You post in the evening and someone answers the next morning and instead of saying "thanks", you complain it took too long? ::)
The real problem keesio is that during the waiting period for that crucial question thousands of new citizens can wake up today without realizing that during the night CIC have already revoked their citizenship

ROLF ;D ;D ;D
 

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Keesio,
Amazement or complaining?? I wonder if anybody would complain for no response on a free forum. Amazed that nearly 100 views (over 200 now) and no response.

A great weakness of human kind is to understand a fellow human being. Communication barriers abound. :)


keesio said:
You post in the evening and someone answers the next morning and instead of saying "thanks", you complain it took too long? ::)
 

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The answer was clear from the very beginning

There will be no effect, because the intend is only until the Oath.

Many people with common sense are already tired to say one and the same thing over and over again.
 

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Thats good then.

MUFC said:
The answer was clear from the very beginning

There will be no effect, because the intend is only until the Oath.

Many people with common sense are already tired to say one and the same thing over and over again.
 

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CanadianCountry said:
Keesio,
Amazement or complaining?? I wonder if anybody would complain for no response on a free forum. Amazed that nearly 100 views (over 200 now) and no response.
If I ask for help at ~9 PM in the evening and I get an answer ~8 AM the NEXT DAY, I consider that very good response in the business world. Now considering that this is a FREE peer-to-peer forum when people just browse on their spare time and response to be helpful, that is very nice and I would be very appreciative.
 

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CanadianCountry said:
People say that "Intent to reside" applies till oath ONLY.

Please answer the posted question:
Q)How does the "Intent to Reside" applies to a candidate who took oath of citizenship, and the next year itself files tax return as a non-resident?
I did not respond because I doubted the sincerity of the query. The answer, after all, is included in the post itself, that the "intent to reside" requirement only applies up to the taking of the oath, so it obviously does not apply to someone who has taken the oath.

But, what about a new citizen who took the oath in, let's say, 2017, and when filing a tax return in 2018 files a return for 2017 as a non-resident?

My guess is that this alone would not jingle any alarm bells. None at all.

But, if for some other reason CIC was alerted to a potential fraud, given the information sharing provisions and practices now in play this is something which might get boxed in a filing cabinet for evidence of fraud.

This alone would not constitute anywhere near evidence sufficient to prove fraud. But it might lead to an investigation, and the investigation might find evidence of employment or business activity abroad before taking the oath, residence abroad before taking the oath, and depending on the nature and scope of those activities, and other circumstances, sure, this could spill into an outright fraud proceeding . . . arrest warrant served, handcuffs, picture taken, fingers printed, revocation of citizenship initiated, with all the trimmings (room and board provided, including an interesting character or two for roommates perhaps, some playmates for playing that favourite past time of inmates whacha in for? -- be kind of interesting to see how "I lied in an application for citizenship" plays out in a prison courtyard).
 

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Intentions can change and you can intend to live in Canada today and in a few months you have something happen that changes that. You or your spouse may be offered a good job overseas, you may have a family emergency and need to go to your home country for some time etc.

It is however unlikely that something like that would happen on the next day after the oath so if you move too soon after getting citizenship, they might be able to say that you clearly did not have intent when you did the oath if you moved away the next day.
 

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Leon,
Thanks for your comment. It is well understood that the intent can change post-oath and that golden opportunity may come the next day/month/year or in a decade. Longer the time after oath, lower will be rhe doubt about intent. But what is the timeframe when that move is not "too soon" (grey area)?

Or maybe whenever the move (too soon or late), the law has no jurisdiction over the revocation based on fraudulent intent declaration.

Hence the sincere question. :)


Leon said:
Intentions can change and you can intend to live in Canada today and in a few months you have something happen that changes that. You or your spouse may be offered a good job overseas, you may have a family emergency and need to go to your home country for some time etc.

It is however unlikely that something like that would happen on the next day after the oath so if you move too soon after getting citizenship, they might be able to say that you clearly did not have intent when you did the oath if you moved away the next day.
 

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CanadianCountry said:
Longer the time after oath, lower will be rhe doubt about intent. But what is the timeframe when that move is not "too soon" (grey area)?
A good starting point would be what people recommend for folks who come to Canada via PNP but want to leave the province shortly after landing. Staying 6 months is a good baseline.
 

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It's a grey area but I agree that 6 months is a good baseline. Whether the law can do anything to you is a different question and will have to be answered when CIC starts attempting to revoke citizenship for that reason and somebody takes them to court.