Inland spousal sponsorship question

[hiep3010]

Hi guys, i have some questions that has been bugging me for a few months, and i really really need your help for my situation.
Right now i'm still applying for my PR as CEC, but my girlfriend and I were talking about getting married, and i need to find a solid plan to bring her here. And we'll plan on getting married after i got my PR.
She's living in Vietnam right now, and the process time in Singapore office is just too long (21 months). I will need to go with the inland process.

When i read lots of threads here, the only problem with inland is that she'll have to stay in Canada for the first stage approval which is 10 months now
So i'm not sure which way i should do to keep her here for more than 10 months. I think i only have a few options,
- Get a visitor visa for 6 months, and apply for extension along with PR application (not sure if this will guarantee)
- Try to apply for a work permit which i think it's quite hard
- And the last one is the most expensive one which i don't prefer. Get a study permit. If others won't work, i will go with this one.

I need your advice on this one please!!! Which way should i do?

thank you

 

[automaton82]

First of all, is there any rules about you sponsoring someone in as a new PR holder? I'm not sure if there is, but maybe someone can comment on that.

Secondly, as to whether "outland" or "inland" is better, typically if you apply outland she can come much faster (they will grant her a visa after AIP which will be fast, but she cannot work). If you apply inland, yes she is stuck here, but you can include an OWP with the PR application and she could work after 6-10 months (first stage approval).

I think this post enumerates the options fairly well:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/advice-needed-about-being-sponsored-by-my-girlfriend-t164441.0.html;msg2564933#msg2564933

 

[Rob_TO]

If you go inland you will do as follows:
1. Get her a TRV to come to Canada as a visitor (this is sometimes hard to get)
2. When she's in Canada and assuming you're married at this point, apply for inland sponsorship. Along with the application you'll submit her app for OWP, which gives her implied status
3. After 1st stage approval (around 10 months) she will have an OWP and can work anywhere
4. She will get 2nd stage approval and full PR, around 8 months after that

She will have status in Canada during the ENTIRE processing time from the date you mail your application, so no need to apply for any visa extensions later on.
Also she will not be able to leave Canada for any reason whatsoever, during the entire processing time.

Of course inland assumes she will be able to get a TRV to visit here first. Without that, and you would be forced to apply outland through Singapore VO. Since you are a PR, you must reside in Canada during her application processing time, so outland would mean you'll need to live apart for a very long time.

 

[Rob_TO]

typically if you apply outland she can come much faster (they will grant her a visa after AIP which will be fast, but she cannot work)

This is wrong. There is no visa for outland applicants after AIP (stage 1 approval).

 

[automaton82]

This is wrong. There is no visa for outland applicants after AIP (stage 1 approval).

Yes, sorry, I got confused for a minute :s

 

[scylla]

Why don't you visit Vietnam, marry her now and add her to your CEC application? Then both of you will get PR at the same time.

 

[scylla]

Why don't you visit Vietnam, marry her now and add her to your CEC application? Then both of you will get PR at the same time.

Ignore my comment... Just saw that you don't want to get married until after you have PR...

 

[hiep3010]

If you go inland you will do as follows:
1. Get her a TRV to come to Canada as a visitor (this is sometimes hard to get)
2. When she's in Canada and assuming you're married at this point, apply for inland sponsorship. Along with the application you'll submit her app for OWP, which gives her implied status
3. After 1st stage approval (around 10 months) she will have an OWP and can work anywhere
4. She will get 2nd stage approval and full PR, around 8 months after that

She will have status in Canada during the ENTIRE processing time from the date you mail your application, so no need to apply for any visa extensions later on.
Also she will not be able to leave Canada for any reason whatsoever, during the entire processing time.

Of course inland assumes she will be able to get a TRV to visit here first. Without that, and you would be forced to apply outland through Singapore VO. Since you are a PR, you must reside in Canada during her application processing time, so outland would mean you'll need to live apart for a very long time.

Thanks for your advice, i'm assuming that the TRV for visitor will be easy since we're married and she want to visit me in Canada
There's a troubling part, OWP can only be issued after she get the 1st stage approval right? So i'm just afraid it won't be implied status for her, that's why i'm thinking apply for TRV visitor extension.

 

[MilesAway]

Actually, it's the opposite for a TRV application. If the person has a PR or Canadian spouse, that means they are more likely to be refused, because CIC sees that the ties to Canada are stronger than the ties to their home country.

If you apply for the OWP, then you get implied status until AIP, so even if it takes 10 or 12 months, you still have implied status, as long as it takes until you hear from CIC.

 

[hiep3010]

Actually, it's the opposite for a TRV application. If the person has a PR or Canadian spouse, that means they are more likely to be refused, because CIC sees that the ties to Canada are stronger than the ties to their home country.

If you apply for the OWP, then you get implied status until AIP, so even if it takes 10 or 12 months, you still have implied status, as long as it takes until you hear from CIC.

Oh, i see what you mean. So is there a better way than this? or i just have to try to apply TRV for her and hope it'll get approved
And thank for confirming with the implied status, so i don't have to worry about that.

 

[mikeymyke]

Processing time 21 months, is not how long it will take. If your application is strong with minimal red flags, your application can be completed in 6 - 12 months. However, with the strike, it can be longer now. The reason its so long is because many applicants forget a signature, have red flags, etc.

 

[Leon]

The best way would be to marry her now and include her on your PR application from the start. It is even possible that she could get an open work permit right away based on your work permit and join you in Canada before you both get the PR. The spouses of skilled TFW's and students in Canada are eligible to apply for open work permits right away while the spouses of PR's and citizens are not.

If you really do not want to get married until after you have your PR and you want to sponsor inland, she has to be in Canada so she would have to apply for a TRV. Getting a TRV for the spouse of a PR is not necessarily easy but if she gets it, you can apply inland and at the same time, apply for her open work permit to be granted upon first stage approval. That way, she would have implied status and can continue to stay in Canada as she waits for her processing. Getting the first stage approval and open work permit can take 6-10 months or so. If you are unable to get a TRV for her, you will have to sponsor her outland and that way, she would not get an open work permit. She would only be able to join you when she gets her PR.

 

[hiep3010]

The best way would be to marry her now and include her on your PR application from the start. It is even possible that she could get an open work permit right away based on your work permit and join you in Canada before you both get the PR. The spouses of skilled TFW's and students in Canada are eligible to apply for open work permits right away while the spouses of PR's and citizens are not.

If you really do not want to get married until after you have your PR and you want to sponsor inland, she has to be in Canada so she would have to apply for a TRV. Getting a TRV for the spouse of a PR is not necessarily easy but if she gets it, you can apply inland and at the same time, apply for her open work permit to be granted upon first stage approval. That way, she would have implied status and can continue to stay in Canada as she waits for her processing. Getting the first stage approval and open work permit can take 6-10 months or so. If you are unable to get a TRV for her, you will have to sponsor her outland and that way, she would not get an open work permit. She would only be able to join you when she gets her PR.

Thanks for your advice, but if I marry her right now and include her PR application with mine, it'll be inland, and she'll be coming here right?

 

[hiep3010]

Let's say we go with marry before applying for PR. Since we need to rush things, probably we won't be able to have a wedding party, honeymoon... but we'll register for marriage certificate. With the certificate along with pictures... that prove we've been together for 4 years, will it be enough?

thanks so much guys

 

[Leon]

Thanks for your advice, but if I marry her right now and include her PR application with mine, it'll be inland, and she'll be coming here right?

Including your wife on your PR application isn't inland or outland because it's not sponsorship. She doesn't need to be in Canada to be included on your application. However, if you marry her now, she can apply for an open work permit based on your work permit so she may be able to join you if she gets it. If immigration thinks she is a risk of overstay, she might be denied an open permit in which case she might have to wait until you both get PR.

Let's say we go with marry before applying for PR. Since we need to rush things, probably we won't be able to have a wedding party, honeymoon... but we'll register for marriage certificate. With the certificate along with pictures... that prove we've been together for 4 years, will it be enough?

When you include your wife on your PR application from the get-go, you do not have to prove that your relationship is genuine. You just have to provide your marriage certificate. It is only when you sponsor that you have to prove your relationship.