Immigrants in Canada stuck in low-paying jobs

[black haired guy]

Interesting statistics, please ignore if somebody already posted this : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indians_Abroad/Immigrants_in_Canada_stuck_in_low-paying_jobs/articleshow/3885160.cms.

I guess this explains why they have made the new NOC list

 

[adnan_hsn]

Good link. But I suppose they could do more than just shrinking the occupation list.

 

[nomlah]

Good info. For a job in Canada everyone need Canadian references and Canadian experience. What government can do about 85% hidden job market ( in other words under the table jobs ).

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[Tessi]

Nice piece of info. I've noticed the "low skills job" as well from various job sites and recruitment aganecies. Hope it doesn't continue that way as degree holders fall into the risk of unemployment in Canada.

 

[black haired guy]

Good info. For a job in Canada everyone need Canadian references and Canadian experience. What government can do about 85% hidden job market ( in other words under the table jobs ).

Exactly, i would think there are a lot of hidden jobs (under the table jobs). I have noticed that here in US. A lot of companies just hire from people working for them who have a consulting company or know of people who have a consulting company. The jobs don't get advertised or even if its advertised it just a show, and i guess the hiring managers get a cut when they hire from a particular consulting company.

Also, many companies have stopped hiring permanent or full time employees and prefer to hire consultants. This way the companies save money by getting cheap and below par labor, they don't have to provide insurance, 401k, benefits or bonus etc. Also this opens an avenue for the hiring managers to pocket money or favors. This is not just happening in private companies and corporates but also in government agencies too.

 

[PMM]

Hi

Good info. For a job in Canada everyone need Canadian references and Canadian experience. What government can do about 85% hidden job market ( in other words under the table jobs ).

Exactly, i would think there are a lot of hidden jobs (under the table jobs). I have noticed that here in US. A lot of companies just hire from people working for them who have a consulting company or know of people who have a consulting company. The jobs don't get advertised or even if its advertised it just a show, and i guess the hiring managers get a cut when they hire from a particular consulting company.

Also, many companies have stopped hiring permanent or full time employees and prefer to hire consultants. This way the companies save money by getting cheap and below par labor, they don't have to provide insurance, 401k, benefits or bonus etc. Also this opens an avenue for the hiring managers to pocket money or favors. This is not just happening in private companies and corporates but also in government agencies too.

One thing that should be taken with a grain of salt with such statistics is that of the approximately 250K Immigrants to Canada in 2007, only 41K were economic immigrants (principal applicants) who are chosen for their job skills. So the review should concentrate on these immigrants and their job prospects and earning levels rather than lumping them with all other immigrants who were not chosen on the basis of their skills.

PMM

 

[NewYorker]

Interesting statistics, please ignore if somebody already posted this : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Indians_Abroad/Immigrants_in_Canada_stuck_in_low-paying_jobs/articleshow/3885160.cms.

I guess this explains why they have made the new NOC list

If one is qualified, there is always a job for that person. If a person is highly educated from some other country that doesn't mean they will fit right away and adjust in a new country as a skilled worked. Sometime people need time to adjust, understand, get used to of culture, adopt new society, vocal ability, living style etcetera etcetera.... before they get the real job, not from the first day a person is ready to jump in the corporate world. No offense to anyone, people who are coming from variety of countries really need some time to jump start in Canada and that is why they sometime have to do odd jobs before they get the real job in their profession.

I think they need to get prepared for this, too high expectation will result into conclusions like these that there are no jobs for new immigrants.

 

[energy168]

I guess retraining oneself is very important. My two nephews just finished their university studies in Canada. They both just have been hired and both were offered very good starting salaries even though they are just like trainees for now.

 

[NewYorker]

I agree with New Yorker. For would-be immigrants, it is important to note that they might have to take up a low paying job. The problem about taking a low-paying low skilled job while awaiting your high-skilled job is that sometimes, the longer you stay away from your job, somtimes the harder it is to get into your high skilled job. I know examples of this in both in academia and in industry.

I agree with this at some extent, first of all if I am going to a new country for good, I will make up my mind before I arrive there that I will take anything to begin with to understand and get used to of the society, cultures etc. of the country and not only for that but also for the money to keep coming.

Of course my ultimate goal is to get a job in my profession and may be as a beginner in any company and as soon as I can - (remember, I do not have experience in the country, so I may have to start with something lower than what I really wanted) people usually stay away from lower jobs because they are only looking for e.g. Senior Business Analyst or IT Manager or a Project Manager position, they don't want to start with a BA, IT Specialist or a System Analyst position and keep on waiting for the right title (I am not implying that this is the case 100% of the time, however I would say that there is some ego).

Well, if they take the lower job to enter, they can make their way up by their hard work instead of driving taxi or flipping burgers and waste their time (no offense to drivers or fast food workers) and also to get some experience and references and use that to apply in other companies. If you wait too long in odd jobs, than you are not working towards your goals.

The main reason you immigrated to Canada is to get a better life (better than the country you migrated from), isn't it?

 

[Leon]

The main reason you immigrated to Canada is to get a better life (better than the country you migrated from), isn't it?

Actually, many people also immigrate just to try/experience something new. If they like it they stay, if they don't, they go back. This is the case with many of the TFW's I work with. Many of them stay for 1-3 years, then go back. Others, if they like it decide to go for PR. I came in as an FSW but I just did because I did not want to be bothered to get a job offer and work permit. When I came, I did not know how long I would stay. I thought maybe 2 or 3 years or maybe longer

 

[NewYorker]

Actually, many people also immigrate just to try/experience something new. If they like it they stay, if they don't, they go back. This is the case with many of the TFW's I work with. Many of them stay for 1-3 years, then go back. Others, if they like it decide to go for PR. I came in as an FSW but I just did because I did not want to be bothered to get a job offer and work permit. When I came, I did not know how long I would stay. I thought maybe 2 or 3 years or maybe longer

Agree, although that class of people immigrating is very low but those are also looking to see if they can have better lifestyle than their country, if they like it, they stay. All is about change with peace of mind, if they find this they stay longer and may never go back.