Immediate Relative DOUBT!!!

[jessy_canada]

For specifying on relatives, would it be advisable to mention my spouse's First cousin (DAD's SISTER'S SON) who lives and resides in Canada?

 

[JoacRy]

In my opinion there would be no value in mentioning it, as the connection is too distant. You're related to this person by marriage, not blood. Hence I doubt this would add any weight to your application.

 

[jessy_canada]

Thank you. That resolves the matter then! Thank you for your prompt response. I am fairly new to this forum and every bit of advise helps.

 

[Pippin]

From an old post on Forum by expert Qorax: WHO ARE THE ACCEPTABLE RELATIVES?
Proof of relationship showing u, or your accompanying spouse/common-law partner has a close relative who lives in Canada and is a Canadian Citizen or PR. This close relative can be:
• parent, grandparent,
• child, grandchild,
• brother, sister,
• aunt, uncle, or
• niece, nephew.

Source: www.cic.gc.ca

Qorax

 

[jessy_canada]

Neither then, we both have no relatives in that case Well, we shall play it by ear

If you don't mind me asking, does it matter what we profession we hold to get more points or it's purely based on work experience years?
The reason I am asking is I shifted from field to another. Should I declare my spouse experience or just his ECA & IELTS to gain more points?

 

[JoacRy]

From an old post on Forum by expert Qorax: WHO ARE THE ACCEPTABLE RELATIVES?
Proof of relationship showing u, or your accompanying spouse/common-law partner has a close relative who lives in Canada and is a Canadian Citizen or PR. This close relative can be:
• parent, grandparent,
• child, grandchild,
• brother, sister,
• aunt, uncle, or
• niece, nephew.

Source: www.cic.gc.ca

Qorax

Thanks for the info. It's very strange that cousins are not in the list. My cousins and my brother and I grew up together and it was almost as though growing up that we saw them (and I dare say they saw us as brothers and sisters rather than cousins). Maybe CIC has a different way of viewing what constitutes 'family' members.

 

[jessy_canada]

Unfortunate indeed. Anyhoo, we will have to just cancel that option out

 

[bellaluna]

For specifying on relatives, would it be advisable to mention my spouse's First cousin (DAD's SISTER'S SON) who lives and resides in Canada?

Not for Express Entry or FSW, but it can sometimes be helpful in some PNP applications if you will do that.

 

[jessy_canada]

Thank you. After reading several posts and comments, really excited to get documents in place. One more thing, if anyone can answer, I am assuming whether Skill A or 0, only the number of work experience matters yes?

 

[Asivad Anac]

Thank you. After reading several posts and comments, really excited to get documents in place. One more thing, if anyone can answer, I am assuming whether Skill A or 0, only the number of work experience matters yes?

For CRS, yes. For FSW eligibility points, work experience acquired only under 1 NOC (Primary NOC in MyCIC terminology) can be clubbed together.

 

[jessy_canada]

Thank you so much for reply on NOC. AT the moment, I am just beginning my process with WES, post which I will create an EE to understand what formats are required to attain experience letters from employer.

Question: For WES, does the notarised copies have to be valid for less than I year. I have done mine in 2014

 

[Stanlee]

Thank you so much for reply on NOC. AT the moment, I am just beginning my process with WES, post which I will create an EE to understand what formats are required to attain experience letters from employer.

Question: For WES, does the notarised copies have to be valid for less than I year. I have done mine in 2014

Yes, you will need both IELTS and ECA to be ready for your EE account to be created. As per the general trend, once the Express Entry account is created, if your CRS score is 400+, you may get an invite from OINP (PT Notification of Interest) within a week or two and you get 45 days to submit your documents as part of the OINP Application Package. You don't have to necessarily wait for the Express Entry account to be created to obtain the reference letters from your employers, if you feel that it may take time, you can start the process now it self.

You can refer to the below format. This is in line with the requirement that has been mentioned in the OINP Application Guide (http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNP_EE_CAPITAL.html). You need to get this on company letter head.

Reference Letter Format​

Date: _____________

To Whom it May Concern

This is to certify that Mr. ____________ (Name) is currently employed with __________ (Company Name) in ___________ (Location, Country).

Details of his employment are given below:
• Designation:
• Date of Joining:
• Employee ID:
• Type of Employment (Full time/permanent/part-time):
• Hours of Work/Week:
• Department:
• Reporting Manager:
• Annual Salary:

Duties and responsibilities handled by ___________ (Name) are as follows:
•
•
•
•
•

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.

For (Company Name)


<Signature of the Referee> <Company Seal>
<Name & Designation of the Referee>
<Contact No. and Email of the Referee>

 

[Stanlee]

Question: For WES, does the notarised copies have to be valid for less than I year. I have done mine in 2014

No, for WES you cannot use the documents which you got notarized in 2014. The educational documents (certificates, transcripts/mark sheets) should be attested by the authority mentioned in the document checklist which gets generated post payment on WES site.

According to WES, 'WES only accepts documents attested and sealed by the designated official at the institution that conducted the examination (e.g. Controller of Examination or Registrar's Offices). Attestations by individual professors or external notary publics will not be accepted.'

Post payment, download the Academic Records Request Form, fill up the relevant details and submit it to the university to release the documents along with duly signed Academic Records Request Form. These should be attested & dated and placed in an official sealed envelope that is signed or stamped across the back flap by the appropriate authentication officer at the university or autonomous college that conducted the examination. If the envelope has been opened or there is no stamp or signature across the back flap, the document will not be accepted by WES.

The University can either send the documents directly to WES or may give it to you to send to WES.

 

[jessy_canada]

Yes, you will need both IELTS and ECA to be ready for your EE account to be created. As per the general trend, once the Express Entry account is created, if your CRS score is 400+, you may get an invite from OINP (PT Notification of Interest) within a week or two and you get 45 days to submit your documents as part of the OINP Application Package. You don't have to necessarily wait for the Express Entry account to be created to obtain the reference letters from your employers, if you feel that it may take time, you can start the process now it self.

You can refer to the below format. This is in line with the requirement that has been mentioned in the OINP Application Guide (http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/OI_PNP_EE_CAPITAL.html). You need to get this on company letter head.

Reference Letter Format​

Date: _____________

To Whom it May Concern

This is to certify that Mr. ____________ (Name) is currently employed with __________ (Company Name) in ___________ (Location, Country).

Details of his employment are given below:
• Designation:
• Date of Joining:
• Employee ID:
• Type of Employment (Full time/permanent/part-time):
• Hours of Work/Week:
• Department:
• Reporting Manager:
• Annual Salary:

Duties and responsibilities handled by ___________ (Name) are as follows:
•
•
•
•
•

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.

For (Company Name)


<Signature of the Referee> <Company Seal>
<Name & Designation of the Referee>
<Contact No. and Email of the Referee>

THANK YOU for being so detailed and helpful So much clarity and as I was reading, I assumed you get ITA and all based on the pools and draws which would take a while. Fortunately, I have most of the letters ready. The ONIP program is something I need to read more about. Does the responsibilities stated by the employer have to match as per the stated NOC Job responsibilities mentioned in CIC?

 

[jessy_canada]

No, for WES you cannot use the documents which you got notarized in 2014. The educational documents (certificates, transcripts/mark sheets) should be attested by the authority mentioned in the document checklist which gets generated post payment on WES site.

According to WES, 'WES only accepts documents attested and sealed by the designated official at the institution that conducted the examination (e.g. Controller of Examination or Registrar's Offices). Attestations by individual professors or external notary publics will not be accepted.'

Post payment, download the Academic Records Request Form, fill up the relevant details and submit it to the university to release the documents along with duly signed Academic Records Request Form. These should be attested & dated and placed in an official sealed envelope that is signed or stamped across the back flap by the appropriate authentication officer at the university or autonomous college that conducted the examination. If the envelope has been opened or there is no stamp or signature across the back flap, the document will not be accepted by WES.

The University can either send the documents directly to WES or may give it to you to send to WES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH for clarification. Let me get moving with WES. Unfortunately, my PG Diploma credentials have a small issue. I studied in the campus of Dubai from SPJAIN COLLEGE but certificate is issued by both Dubai and Mumbai. And this has no affiliation to any university, not a part of autonomous college...will ECA still evaluate the points for this. Plus point is that this EMBA is accredited by Association of MBAs.