IMM 1344A, Section C: Question 6 a,b and c

[rrdiggy76]

Hello,

I've quickly searched the forum, but still no clearer.

My wife (Canadian) and i (English) are filling out our outland application form and we are stuck with the wording for question 6 in section C of form IMM1344A.

We are residing in the UK, so have listed our (address where the person you are sponsoring lives....) address in England.

"If you are sponsoring a member of the spouse in Canada class, do not complete b) and c); proceed to question 7...

Am i right in assuming that 'in Canada class' is for an inland application? ? ?

I am a British national and the address is in my (as the applicant's) country of nationality. We are looking for the visa office in London to handle the application.

What do we do for b) and c)? ? ?

Sooooo confusing, or am i missing somethig? ? ?

The Help notes with the application form are just as confusing...

Thanks

James

 

[RobsLuv]

Yes, you are correct in assuming that "in Canada class" is for inland applicants. That said, in your situation, (b) and (c) are not applicable because the address of the person being sponsored is in the country of (your) nationality. So you can leave (b) and (c) blank . . . or indicate an "n/a" in that general vicinity since they don't really give you a space where you can write "n/a". But it will be fine. They will see from your passport and your address that the address is in the country of your nationality, and the Case Processing Centre in Mississauga will transfer the application to the visa office in London once the sponsor has been assessed and approved.

 

[toby]

To clarify such issues, I wrote a cover letter for each application (sponsor and applicant), cited the paragraph in question, and said:

"Question 6 a, b and c: For greater clarity, we are living ...."

Better to give too much explanation than too little.

 

[rrdiggy76]

Ok thanks!

I still can't get my head around the wording but will continue as advised....

BUT...

Upon the basis that 'in Canada class' means INLAND, section E,3 of the same form says;

"Are you sponsoring a member of the family class or a member of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class?"

If you answer NO to any questions 1-4, you will be refused as a sponsor....

Well, it's an OUTLAND application so the answer is no? Is it not? ???

 

[Staceybru]

Hello.... This is so funny because I had the same question you did... I am currently applying to sponsor my common law partner as well. He has been living with me lawfully here in Canada, but now he has to go back to the USA because he was denied any more extensions as a visitor and we have to do the common law sponsorship OUTSIDE Canada. Once I receive the word that I "Qualify" as a sponsor, he will come back.. His plans are to go back to the USA for 2-3 months while we wait for stage 1 of this whole thing.... SO, that same question #6 a), b), c) also stumped me. I do not know if I have to write down the address I have in Canada, or the one my partner will be at while he goes back to the States for 2-3 months...... THEN: I also feel I should continue answering question 6. b) and 6. C).

THE WORDING is so mind boggling isn't it......

 

[heatherusa]

It states that if you answer no to 1-4 you are not eligible, except if you are a Canadian living exclusively outside of Canada - is the sponsor in your case a Canadian living exclusively outside of Canada?

Ok thanks!

I still can't get my head around the wording but will continue as advised....

BUT...

Upon the basis that 'in Canada class' means INLAND, section E,3 of the same form says;

"Are you sponsoring a member of the family class or a member of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class?"

If you answer NO to any questions 1-4, you will be refused as a sponsor....

It states that if you answer no to 1-4 you are not eligible, except if you are a Canadian living exclusively outside of Canada - is the sponsor in your case a Canadian living exclusively outside of Canada?




Well, it's an OUTLAND application so the answer is no? Is it not? ???

 

[rrdiggy76]

Yes, my wife is my sponsor, she is Canadian, but currently living here in the UK with me.

She has temporary residence here in England, she is on a fixed 2 year working visa, but plans to return home to Canada at the end of this year.

I read that if you answer question 4 as no, section F asks for confirmation of exclusive residence outside Canada, but not for question 3....

 

[RobsLuv]

It states that if you answer no to 1-4 you are not eligible, except if you are a Canadian living exclusively outside of Canada - is the sponsor in your case a Canadian living exclusively outside of Canada?

Has absolutely NOTHING to do with being a sponsor living exclusively outside Canada.

Upon the basis that 'in Canada class' means INLAND, section E,3 of the same form says;

"Are you sponsoring a member of the family class or a member of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class?"

If you answer NO to any questions 1-4, you will be refused as a sponsor....

Well, it's an OUTLAND application so the answer is no? Is it not? ???

Has absolutely NOTHING to do with inland vs outland either.

Basically, what they're trying to get at when they ask this question isn't clearly defined unless you go to the Act and read the definition of who is considered to be a member of the family class. Section 12 states: "A foreign national may be selected as a member of the family class on the basis of their relationship as the spouse, common-law partner, child, parent or other prescribed family member of a Canadian citizen or permanent resident". So what this "question" is saying is, if you are not sponsoring a "spouse, common-law partner, child, parent, or other prescribed family member", you will be refused as a sponsor - basically because you cannot sponsor a friend or a business partner, or someone who is not your legal spouse, or someone with whom you're living but have not co-habitated for at least one continuous year, etc.

And therein lies the problem - a question is supposed to ask something - it's not supposed to be used to impart information. Basically, this "question" is CIC's inefficient way of informing potential sponsors that unless they are applying to sponsor someone that the Act defines as a member of the family class, which includes an "in-Canada" spouse or common-law partner, then they're either trying to sponsor someone who can't be sponsored, or they're using the wrong type of application. This is just one of those instances where the written English language just doesn't convey the intent behind the words. CIC should include a preface containing that paragraph of the Act that defines a "member of the family class". That would help put this "question" in the right perspective.

 

[newfiegirl]

hey! My husband and I are applying to go back to Canada as well, and we find the guides not very clear at times!

I actually wrote out a list of questions on the forms and asked my mom to call the help centre in Canada (because you can only call within Canada!). For IMM1344 Section E Q 1-4, its ok to answer No to question 4 as your spouse is a Canadian Citizen who is outside of Canada. By completed section F she/he confirms that they will enter Canada when the Applicant (you) do.

I've been reading a lot of queries on this page and it was starting to make me nervous. But the guy my mom was talking to said that because I was a Canadian Citizen and the applicant is British (commonwealth country) and the marriage is legit, there shouldn't be an issue!

I am curious to see how your application is progressing! We are only gathering the information for ours now!

 

[canadianwoman]

Ok thanks!



"Are you sponsoring a member of the family class or a member of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class?"

If you answer NO to any questions 1-4, you will be refused as a sponsor....

Well, it's an OUTLAND application so the answer is no? Is it not? ???

No. The question is divided into two after 'family class': the 'in Canada' is modifying only the second part. So it means: "Are you sponsoring a) a member of the family class, or b) a member of the spouse or common-law partner in Canada class?
Your answer: if you are sponsoring a spouse or Common-law partner who is Canada - an inland application - you say 'yes.'
If you are sponsoring a member of the family class - which could be outland or inland - you say 'yes.'

 

[rrdiggy76]

Thanks everyone,

newfiegirl,

Our application is progressing ok. Nearly done, just some tidying up and organising, but we are renovating and her parents are coming over for a visit for a couple of weeks, so it's been on the back burner as much as we hate to leave it.

My medical and police check are all that's left, with the medical booked later this month.

Good luck with your application, we're hoping to post it early July!

 

[iamterriblysorry]

Our application is progressing ok. Nearly done, just some tidying up and organising, but we are renovating and her parents are coming over for a visit for a couple of weeks, so it's been on the back burner as much as we hate to leave it.

My medical and police check are all that's left, with the medical booked later this month.

Good luck with your application, we're hoping to post it early July!

Dear rdiggy76,
Can you please mention what you answered in your IMM1344E for questions 3 and 4?

3. Are you sponsoring a member of the family class or a member of the spouse or common law partner in Canada class?
4. Do you reside in Canada and in no other country?

I am really anxious to know your experience as we are in the same situation. We are both living in Singapore and want to move back to Canada. The sponsor, my wife is a Canadian citizen but living with me here.

 

[Decoy24601]

Dear rdiggy76,
Can you please mention what you answered in your IMM1344E for questions 3 and 4?

3. Are you sponsoring a member of the family class or a member of the spouse or common law partner in Canada class?
4. Do you reside in Canada and in no other country?

I am really anxious to know your experience as we are in the same situation. We are both living in Singapore and want to move back to Canada. The sponsor, my wife is a Canadian citizen but living with me here.

You know that post is 6 years old, right? That person probably isn't even active in this forum anymore. I would suggest making your own thread.

Edit: Yep, that person was last active in 2014.