If you are not currently authorized to work in Canada, the employer will not consider your job application.

[laurane]

Hello,
After completing my EE profile, I was advised to post my profile on the Canada Job Bank.
99% of the job offers in my field are not for people with no work permit... The rest doesn't specify this requirement.
It clearly says on the job offer listings: If you are not currently authorized to work in Canada, the employer will not consider your job application.
How do you get a job in Canada while being overseas without any current visa for Canada if they only hire people legally authorized to work in Canada?

Do I need to come in to Canada with a visitor visa in order to be considered for a job?

Cheers

 

[scylla]

Hello,
After completing my EE profile, I was advised to post my profile on the Canada Job Bank.
99% of the job offers in my field are not for people with no work permit... The rest doesn't specify this requirement.
It clearly says on the job offer listings: If you are not currently authorized to work in Canada, the employer will not consider your job application.
How do you get a job in Canada while being overseas without any current visa for Canada if they only hire people legally authorized to work in Canada?

Do I need to come in to Canada with a visitor visa in order to be considered for a job?

Cheers

Having a visitor visa and being in Canada won't make a difference. The employer will still have to go through the same long and hard process to hire you

The short answer is that you should expect it will not be possible to get a job offer since very few employers are willing to hire foreign workers. If you want to increase you Express Entry score, you should do this through other ways and forget about getting a job offer.

 

[Islander216]

Very difficult to get a job offer, i got many invitations to apply for jobs, but after applying i never received any responses.

They don't want to go through the hassle.

 

[laurane]

Very difficult to get a job offer, i got many invitations to apply for jobs, but after applying i never received any responses.

They don't want to go through the hassle.

Invitations through Job Bank?

Is there an option to show in your profile that you do not currently have the right to work in Canada?
This option is missing from the search panel for jobseekers. There is a "newcomers" filter. But nothing for "looking forward to fly in and work hard for your company" filter.
People would certainly take advantage of it and start charging in exchange of a job offer...
Isn't there any random check to make sure overseas workers are actually working where they are supposed to work for a period of 1~2 years?
That's what they do in Australia. Random interview with the staff to check if they actually know the restaurant manager that was hired 1 year ago on a regional sponsorship...

 

[canuck78]

Invitations through Job Bank?

Is there an option to show in your profile that you do not currently have the right to work in Canada?
This option is missing from the search panel for jobseekers. There is a "newcomers" filter. But nothing for "looking forward to fly in and work hard for your company" filter.
People would certainly take advantage of it and start charging in exchange of a job offer...
Isn't there any random check to make sure overseas workers are actually working where they are supposed to work for a period of 1~2 years?
That's what they do in Australia. Random interview with the staff to check if they actually know the restaurant manager that was hired 1 year ago on a regional sponsorship...

There isn’t an option to arrive in Canada and start working. It is a long and expensive process so that is why most employers are unwilling to go through it. They don’t want to wait 6 months for an employee. Where are you from and how old are you? Is IEC an option? Canada is now in a recession so there will be a push to hire those a.ready in Canada.

 

[Islander216]

Invitations through Job Bank?

Is there an option to show in your profile that you do not currently have the right to work in Canada?
This option is missing from the search panel for jobseekers. There is a "newcomers" filter. But nothing for "looking forward to fly in and work hard for your company" filter.
People would certainly take advantage of it and start charging in exchange of a job offer...
Isn't there any random check to make sure overseas workers are actually working where they are supposed to work for a period of 1~2 years?
That's what they do in Australia. Random interview with the staff to check if they actually know the restaurant manager that was hired 1 year ago on a regional sponsorship...

Yes, when you register you will sometimes receive invitations to apply for jobs which are posted. Got tons, applied for some, never heard anything.

I don't think there is, however there is an option once you've obtained PR to input your SIN number into your job profile, which i would assume would demonstrate to employers that you have the right to work.

I'm sure there are random checks, but i don't think it's such a problem in Canada because the system is quite strict and employers will not want to take chances of getting fined and sanctioned for misleading the government on someone who is or isn't working for them.

Only LMIA-certified job offers are acceptable for immigration purposes, and companies have to pay a lot of fees and go through a lot of procedures to get it done.

No one will to do that to trade for money from applicants, it wouldn't be worth it. They want people who can actually work and contribute to their company. The government also performs a lot of rigorous checks to ensure that your profile meets the requirement of the job, we had someone here whose LMIA was refused despite the employer being willing to sponsor him. IRCC didn't agree he had the necessary skills and experience for the job.

 

[laurane]

There isn’t an option to arrive in Canada and start working. It is a long and expensive process so that is why most employers are unwilling to go through it. They don’t want to wait 6 months for an employee. Where are you from and how old are you? Is IEC an option? Canada is now in a recession so there will be a push to hire those a.ready in Canada.

From France. 33 years old.
After struggling 10 years in Australia on student visas, I assumed speaking english+french and having some skilled work experience will get me in Canada... How stupid was I...

I did my WES, IELTS, TEF: College-level certificate (1 year), LRWS 8.5, 8.0, 7.0, 7.0, TEF top scores. 3,5 years full time work experience from overseas. CRS 427 (applying with my wife who does not speak french... and have an expired IELTS of overall 6.0 and is looking to re-pass the test when possible (we had 10 points for that before expiry)

CRS - Human Capital - Age	80
CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education	84
CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency	128
CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency	22
CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience	0

CRS - Spouse - Level of Education	8
CRS - Spouse - First Official Language Proficiency	0
CRS - Spouse - Canadian Work Experience	0

CRS - Skill Transferability - Education	25
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience	50
CRS - Skill Transferability - Certificate of Qualification	0

CRS - Additional - French Proficiency or Bilingualism

30

 

[scylla]

From France. 33 years old.
After struggling 10 years in Australia on student visas, I assumed speaking english+french and having some skilled work experience will get me in Canada... How stupid was I...

I did my WES, IELTS, TEF: College-level certificate (1 year), LRWS 8.5, 8.0, 7.0, 7.0, TEF top scores. 3,5 years full time work experience from overseas. CRS 427 (applying with my wife who does not speak french... and have an expired IELTS of overall 6.0 and is looking to re-pass the test when possible (we had 10 points for that before expiry)

CRS - Human Capital - Age	80
CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education	84
CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency	128
CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency	22
CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience	0

CRS - Spouse - Level of Education	8
CRS - Spouse - First Official Language Proficiency	0
CRS - Spouse - Canadian Work Experience	0

CRS - Skill Transferability - Education	25
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience	50
CRS - Skill Transferability - Certificate of Qualification	0

CRS - Additional - French Proficiency or Bilingualism

30

You can do better on IELTS. Start with that. Have your wife retake IELTS as planned once tests are being given again.

Forget about the job offer point. Not going to happen.

 

[scylla]

From France. 33 years old.
After struggling 10 years in Australia on student visas, I assumed speaking english+french and having some skilled work experience will get me in Canada... How stupid was I...

I did my WES, IELTS, TEF: College-level certificate (1 year), LRWS 8.5, 8.0, 7.0, 7.0, TEF top scores. 3,5 years full time work experience from overseas. CRS 427 (applying with my wife who does not speak french... and have an expired IELTS of overall 6.0 and is looking to re-pass the test when possible (we had 10 points for that before expiry)

CRS - Human Capital - Age	80
CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education	84
CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency	128
CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency	22
CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience	0

CRS - Spouse - Level of Education	8
CRS - Spouse - First Official Language Proficiency	0
CRS - Spouse - Canadian Work Experience	0

CRS - Skill Transferability - Education	25
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience	50
CRS - Skill Transferability - Certificate of Qualification	0

CRS - Additional - French Proficiency or Bilingualism

30

You can also look into the IEC / working holiday visa program that would give you a temporary open work permit. This program is good up to 35 years old as a way to come to Canada temporarily Downside is that the program is closed right now due to COVID-19 and hard to say when it will reopen. Other downside is that there are only a limited number of spots available and always tons of people submitting their name from France hoping to be selected (it's a lottery). Info.

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/eligibility.asp

 

[Islander216]

From France. 33 years old.
After struggling 10 years in Australia on student visas, I assumed speaking english+french and having some skilled work experience will get me in Canada... How stupid was I...

I did my WES, IELTS, TEF: College-level certificate (1 year), LRWS 8.5, 8.0, 7.0, 7.0, TEF top scores. 3,5 years full time work experience from overseas. CRS 427 (applying with my wife who does not speak french... and have an expired IELTS of overall 6.0 and is looking to re-pass the test when possible (we had 10 points for that before expiry)

CRS - Human Capital - Age	80
CRS - Human Capital - Level of Education	84
CRS - Human Capital - First Official Language Proficiency	128
CRS - Human Capital - Second Official Language Proficiency	22
CRS - Human Capital - Canadian Work Experience	0

CRS - Spouse - Level of Education	8
CRS - Spouse - First Official Language Proficiency	0
CRS - Spouse - Canadian Work Experience	0

CRS - Skill Transferability - Education	25
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience	50
CRS - Skill Transferability - Certificate of Qualification	0

CRS - Additional - French Proficiency or Bilingualism

30

Why don't you apply to Quebec?

https://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/permanent-workers/index.html

You could also apply for French speaking streams for various provinces.:

https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontarios-express-entry-french-speaking-skilled-worker-stream
https://www.immigratemanitoba.com/information-for-employers/mobilite-francophone/

 

[laurane]

You can also look into the IEC / working holiday visa program that would give you a temporary open work permit. This program is good up to 35 years old as a way to come to Canada temporarily Downside is that the program is closed right now due to COVID-19 and hard to say when it will reopen. Other downside is that there are only a limited number of spots available and always tons of people submitting their name from France hoping to be selected (it's a lottery). Info.

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/eligibility.asp

That might work but if they start looking at my immigration history, they will see I spent 10 years in Australia. If I have a refusal on a IEC, would that affect my "immigration history"?
My last 30 days in Australia ended up explaining to a judge why I applied for a third student visa in Australia... Luckily enough he advised me to leave the country and granted my student visa (after I gave proof of leaving the country). My student visa was granted 5 days before the actual visa expiry date It took 2 years minus 5 days to have me stand in front of a judge.

 

[Islander216]

Why not apply for permanent residency in Australia while you were there?

 

[laurane]

Why don't you apply to Quebec?

https://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/immigrate-settle/permanent-workers/index.html

You could also apply for French speaking streams for various provinces.:

https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontarios-express-entry-french-speaking-skilled-worker-stream
https://www.immigratemanitoba.com/information-for-employers/mobilite-francophone/

I only meet the Federal Skilled Worker according to my EE profile.
My NOC is 2242.
I understood Quebec had enough french speaking people. And were only for those with high degrees (higher than my 1 year college diploma...)

I will look into the other links/provinces!!! |Thanks a lot for sharing!

 

[scylla]

That might work but if they start looking at my immigration history, they will see I spent 10 years in Australia. If I have a refusal on a IEC, would that affect my "immigration history"?
My last 30 days in Australia ended up explaining to a judge why I applied for a third student visa in Australia... Luckily enough he advised me to leave the country and granted my student visa (after I gave proof of leaving the country). My student visa was granted 5 days before the actual visa expiry date It took 2 years minus 5 days to have me stand in front of a judge.

For IEC no one is going to care where you spent the last 10 years.

 

[laurane]

Why not apply for permanent residency in Australia while you were there?

Not even remotely was going to be possible after 10 years on student visa attending shitty visa school...

For IEC no one is going to care where you spent the last 10 years.

Worth a shot then... (after they re-opened)
Thank you so much for your advice of this!!