I was asked to pay Rights of Permanent Residency fee

[canadalover4987]

Greetings to all,


My parner and I have successfully submitted our Outland Conjugal application. I sponsored her to live here in Canada and we presented our compelling evidence of our relationship. I believed that we had established a SERIOUS immigration barrier because she was denied a TRV in Canada twice and once in USA (our initial plan is to get married in USA but sadly she was denied a tourist visa too) Anyway, My partner is a pre-op transgender woman from the Philippines.

-We met in an online dating site last January of 2014.
-Relationship becomes official on April of 2014
- I met her personally January of 2015 and i stayed with her for 2 months (1st meeting) during this period we have our Holy Union and travel together in Thailand. Same sex marriage is not allowed in her country.
- Second meeting was December of 2015 for 4 months. We travelled to Singapore.
-Third Meeting was December of 2016 and i will stay for another 4 months. And will have a vacation in Hongkong very soon.

By the way Heres our Timeline:

April 30, 2016 - Submitted the Outland Conjugal Application with upfront Medical Check up.
May 12, 2016 - AOR
June 5, 2016 - Sponsor approval
June 14, 2016 - CIC Manila received the application
October 1, 2016 - She received a letter from CIC MANILA stating that she needs to pay Rights Of Permanent Residence Fee amounting to 490 CAD. We paid it after 3 days and we notified CIC about the receipt, we received a confirmation that our payment was received.


When we submitted our outland conjugal application, i did not pay the rights of permanent residence fee. Based on my understanding, i may opt to pay the rights of permanent residence fee on a much later time maybe after an interview or once she passed the interview if any. Right?

I wonder why she was asked to pay the rights of permanent residence fee instead of an interview. I can imagine that there will be an interview. Is this correct or no? Does this means there will be no interview? Will she also get notified if the interview will be waive? As i understand the entire process may take up to 17 months right?

Do you have any idea what will happen next? Any suggestions or idea you like to share?


Thank you do much in advance and Happy New Year to all,


Best regards,
Canadalover

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I wonder why she was asked to pay the rights of permanent residence fee instead of an interview. I can imagine that there will be an interview. Is this correct or no? Does this means there will be no interview? Will she also get notified if the interview will be waive? As i understand the entire process may take up to 17 months right?

Do you have any idea what will happen next? Any suggestions or idea you like to share?

Hi

IRCC can request an interview at any point, even after requesting the RPRF. It is less likely after that point but can happen. If you submitted a strong app, there may be no interview. She will not be notified specifically that the interview has been waived; if she receives the PPR without being called for an interview, she will know it was waived.

At this point, you just need to keep waiting. I suggest you order GCMS notes; if the interview has been waived, the notes should state that.

 

[canadalover4987]

Hello,

I have not heard about GCMS notes so thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Do i need it to order a GCMS notes? I checked the our application in CIC website and says still in Process? Do i need to pay for a fee in case i order?

Is it important to order GCMS notes? If not i would prefer to wait for the CIC to update us.

Any suggestion or question you have is greatly appreciated!

Are we eligible for conditional permanent residence?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Hello,

I have not heard about GCMS notes so thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Do i need it to order a GCMS notes? I checked the our application in CIC website and says still in Process? Do i need to pay for a fee in case i order?

Is it important to order GCMS notes? If not i would prefer to wait for the CIC to update us.

Any suggestion or question you may is greatly appreciated!

You don't need to order GCMS notes but it can be extremely informative as to what has been done in your app. You can request notes under the Privacy Act for free; your partner would need to fill out a consent form.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/atip/requests-personal.asp

 

[canadalover4987]

Thank you so much this is so helpful.

One more thing,

Are we eligible to conditional permanent residence? This portion is very cloudy to my understanding.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Thank you so much this is so helpful.

One more thing,

Are we eligible to conditional permanent residence? This portion is very cloudy to my understanding.

Your partner will be subject to Condition 51. This means you must cohabit for 2 years after landing as a PR.

However, IRCC will most likely be repealing Condition 51 this year.

 

[canadalover4987]

How did you know that my partner is qualified for conditional permanent residence?

Is Condition 51 good or bad? I need to understand what is Condition 51 all about?

And what makes you say Condition 51 will be repealing this year? Is there any update in CIC website about this?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

How did you know that my partner is qualified for conditional permanent residence?

Is Condition 51 good or bad? I need to understand what is Condition 51 all about?

And what makes you say Condition 51 will be repealing this year? Is there any update in CIC website about this?

All of this information is easily found by Googling. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2012/2012-10-26a.asp

The length of your relationship means you will have Condition 51.

It's not good or bad. As I stated, Condition 51 requires that a couple cohabit for 2 years after the applicant becomes a PR.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/acts-regulations/forward-regulatory-plan/new-sponsored-spouses.asp

 

[canadalover4987]

Thank you so much.

I checked the outland application processing times it seems it was reduced to 12 months.

Is that from the moment the application was received (in my case it was april 2015) OR the moment it was transfer to CIC Manila?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Thank you so much.

I checked the outland application processing times it seems it was reduced to 12 months.

Is that from the moment the application was received (in my case it was april 2015) OR the moment it was transfer to CIC Manila?

That is IRCC's expected new processing time. At this point, no one knows whether it will actually happen.

Conjugal apps tend to take longer than average. I suggest you look at the Manila threads to get an idea of current timelines.

 

[canadalover4987]

Thank you so much for the help

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Thank you so much for the help

You're welcome.

 

[canadalover4987]

You're welcome.

You are very helpful.

Im currently in the Philippines. I can i request gcms notes even if im in here?

I tried this link you gave me
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/atip/requests-personal.asp

But when i click the request "online" i dont see any portion there where i can proceed. I just saw terms and condition and when i click it, there is no direct link where i can order.

 

[profiler]

You are very helpful.

Im currently in the Philippines. I can i request gcms notes even if im in here?

I tried this link you gave me
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/atip/requests-personal.asp

But when i click the request "online" i dont see any portion there where i can proceed. I just saw terms and condition and when i click it, there is no direct link where i can order.

To be able to make a request under the Privacy Act, both the Principal Applicant and the Sponsor must reside in Canada. You can make the request from anywhere, but if the sponsor and PA are not living in Canada, they will refuse it.

If the PA is not a temporary resident of Canada, you can make the same request under the Access to Information Act: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/atip/requests-atip.asp . To do this, you will have to pay $5 and submit proof of payment. Paying the fees can be done here; http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/fees/index.asp .

You should fill out and supply the consent form as well when you request the notes, so you can see all of the information in one file.

If you have a look on the Privacy Act request page ( http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/atip/requests-personal.asp ), you will see this note:

"
Note: Personal information which belongs to an individual who is not a Canadian citizen, a permanent resident of Canada or currently living in Canada must be requested under the Access to Information Act.
"

 

[canadalover4987]

To be able to make a request under the Privacy Act, both the Principal Applicant and the Sponsor must reside in Canada. You can make the request from anywhere, but if the sponsor and PA are not living in Canada, they will refuse it.

If the PA is not a temporary resident of Canada, you can make the same request under the Access to Information Act: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/atip/requests-atip.asp . To do this, you will have to pay $5 and submit proof of payment. Paying the fees can be done here; http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/fees/index.asp .

You should fill out and supply the consent form as well when you request the notes, so you can see all of the information in one file.

Thank you so much for your response. i am the Sponsor, im a 68 yo Canadian citizen, im currently on a holiday here in the Philippines. The Principal Applicant is my wife from the Philippines. we applied for an outland conjugal application. In that sense i think i need to be in Canada to request for GCMS notes.

This is too complicated. I cant even link my cic to my application. I hope things are easier.