I need some serious help/ advice

[jigsawpuzzle]

Dear All, Greetings , I am Ali from Pakistan. I had got a total point score of 425 and got my ITA. Unfortunately on 2nd August 2017 , i get update from my consultant regarding rejection of my application. The reason being my consultant had not told me to get police clearance certificate of my spouse for a 3 months time frame where she resided in Karachi. Now i am back in the pool and am waiting for the draw to come down.
My point is , my trust over my consultant has vanished, and i want to handle my profile my self. I need some advise regarding my application.

1) I am a telecom egineer , employed in my fathers company from March 2010 as Technical Sales & Support Engineer.
2) The business is a sole proprietor type company where my Father is the only owner, naturally, being there i am running the entire operations but on paper i have shown my position as technical sales & support enigneer.
3) In 2014, we formed another having different status i.e PVT limited company, where my father , me and my elder brother were directors/ share holders.
4) As i showed experience of 7 years from my dads business, i got the relevant scores accordingly.
5) In a family business, the documentation pertaining to salaries of the son/ daughter working in company are not that strong, i never made any job contract letters or salary slips.

6) The real problem, as we were planning to wrap up the operations of sole proprietor business as the other company (PVT ltd) was formed , i started taking monthly cheques ( salary) in my account from January 2016. so a fixed amount is coming in my account from the above mentioned time frame.
7) but as the scores i acquired showed experience of 7 years, i went on with the sole proprietor documents and made salary slips accordingly ,as per my consultant that it will not create issue , as both companies are yours and if a fixed amount is coming you can make salary slips accordingly. It won't matter from where they are coming.

8) I made a job contract letter and salary slips according to the fixed values coming in my account and submitted tax to the government treasury for the 1 whole year ( which was legally not rite ,as tax should be submitted monthly)

9) In my salary slips am only showing deductions of income tax and that is it, no other deductions are being showed in them.

10) I want to is my case complicated should i do some thing else to make my case stronger? i am concerned there are no deductions apart from Income tax, will they probe the money trail frmo where i am getting the cheques ??

please advise am really worried as my consultant though say these things are all okay but my trust over him has vanished.

Really looking forward for your assistance and help

 

[jackdawn]

Dear All, Greetings , I am Ali from Pakistan. I had got a total point score of 425 and got my ITA. Unfortunately on 2nd August 2017 , i get update from my consultant regarding rejection of my application. The reason being my consultant had not told me to get police clearance certificate of my spouse for a 3 months time frame where she resided in Karachi. Now i am back in the pool and am waiting for the draw to come down.
My point is , my trust over my consultant has vanished, and i want to handle my profile my self. I need some advise regarding my application.

1) I am a telecom egineer , employed in my fathers company from March 2010 as Technical Sales & Support Engineer.
2) The business is a sole proprietor type company where my Father is the only owner, naturally, being there i am running the entire operations but on paper i have shown my position as technical sales & support enigneer.
3) In 2014, we formed another having different status i.e PVT limited company, where my father , me and my elder brother were directors/ share holders.
4) As i showed experience of 7 years from my dads business, i got the relevant scores accordingly.
5) In a family business, the documentation pertaining to salaries of the son/ daughter working in company are not that strong, i never made any job contract letters or salary slips.

6) The real problem, as we were planning to wrap up the operations of sole proprietor business as the other company (PVT ltd) was formed , i started taking monthly cheques ( salary) in my account from January 2016. so a fixed amount is coming in my account from the above mentioned time frame.
7) but as the scores i acquired showed experience of 7 years, i went on with the sole proprietor documents and made salary slips accordingly ,as per my consultant that it will not create issue , as both companies are yours and if a fixed amount is coming you can make salary slips accordingly. It won't matter from where they are coming.

8) I made a job contract letter and salary slips according to the fixed values coming in my account and submitted tax to the government treasury for the 1 whole year ( which was legally not rite ,as tax should be submitted monthly)

9) In my salary slips am only showing deductions of income tax and that is it, no other deductions are being showed in them.

10) I want to is my case complicated should i do some thing else to make my case stronger? i am concerned there are no deductions apart from Income tax, will they probe the money trail frmo where i am getting the cheques ??

please advise am really worried as my consultant though say these things are all okay but my trust over him has vanished.

Really looking forward for your assistance and help

-There is no harm in showing yourself as employed in ur fathers firm. Since it is a legal entity and u r employed there, ur experience would be counted.
-You can collect your appointment letter in the name of sole proprietorship firm as a proof of ur joining the firm
-You can collect you reference letter in the name of pvt ltd firm and write a detailed LOE explaining the firm was initially a proprietorship and has become a pvt ltd company
-You might need to show your payslips if needed but they only ask for a reference letter for ur job as proof of employment. If u r showing tax deduction in ur payslip then u should also file ur returns. The point here is if the VO feels to probe ur case in detail, he may ask for these documents like IT returns, pay stubs, appointment letter and promotion letters it there are any. These are all apart from the most important document, the reference letter

As long as the firm and company is legal and u r working there, ul not have any problems. Pls try to be genuine in ur application

good luck

 

[jigsawpuzzle]

-There is no harm in showing yourself as employed in ur fathers firm. Since it is a legal entity and u r employed there, ur experience would be counted.
-You can collect your appointment letter in the name of sole proprietorship firm as a proof of ur joining the firm
-You can collect you reference letter in the name of pvt ltd firm and write a detailed LOE explaining the firm was initially a proprietorship and has become a pvt ltd company
-You might need to show your payslips if needed but they only ask for a reference letter for ur job as proof of employment. If u r showing tax deduction in ur payslip then u should also file ur returns. The point here is if the VO feels to probe ur case in detail, he may ask for these documents like IT returns, pay stubs, appointment letter and promotion letters it there are any. These are all apart from the most important document, the reference letter

As long as the firm and company is legal and u r working there, ul not have any problems. Pls try to be genuine in ur application

good luck

Sir, really appreciate your reply, i wish to apprise the case i have been submitted to my consultant is 100% genuine. The only issue is, which i feel is carelessness on our part has been that in a family domain business documentation related to family members is not too strong.
My consultant has the following point of view

1) He says not to currently tell regarding PVT ltd company to them, as it will confuse them and may complicate things. Though i agree with you and told him to tell every thing clearly initially as well. But please note that i am drawing salary from PVT ltd account but showing employment of sole proprietorship " just on the basis that they won't probe ,from where the money is coming too" my Tax consultant how ever said, if you're submitting income tax in your sole prop company, you can show you're a silent director of PVT company.

2) My consultant has already taken 1 year salary slips from me of sole prop company. The tax has been submitted ( though, the tax has to be submitted monthly, but i have submitted collectively for 12 months) I hope it is not an issue.
3) I had also provided work orders issued by companies in favor of my company ( mentioning my name on it ,dated back to even 2013) so that i can proof that i am associated with the company since long.

4) My case was already rejected on the basis of wife whose PCC was missing for 3 months. So i am taking this as an opportunity to improve my case " if i get second chance"

5) Important thing which is bothering me is : in the pay slips , i am showing Only income tax deductions ,there are no other deductions like old age benevolent deductions, provident deductions , do you think it will matter? as in the contracts, normally it is written that all deductions will be as per countries labor laws.

Looking forward for your reply.

 

[jackdawn]

Sir, really appreciate your reply, i wish to apprise the case i have been submitted to my consultant is 100% genuine. The only issue is, which i feel is carelessness on our part has been that in a family domain business documentation related to family members is not too strong.
My consultant has the following point of view

1) He says not to currently tell regarding PVT ltd company to them, as it will confuse them and may complicate things. Though i agree with you and told him to tell every thing clearly initially as well. But please note that i am drawing salary from PVT ltd account but showing employment of sole proprietorship " just on the basis that they won't probe ,from where the money is coming too" my Tax consultant how ever said, if you're submitting income tax in your sole prop company, you can show you're a silent director of PVT company.

2) My consultant has already taken 1 year salary slips from me of sole prop company. The tax has been submitted ( though, the tax has to be submitted monthly, but i have submitted collectively for 12 months) I hope it is not an issue.
3) I had also provided work orders issued by companies in favor of my company ( mentioning my name on it ,dated back to even 2013) so that i can proof that i am associated with the company since long.

4) My case was already rejected on the basis of wife whose PCC was missing for 3 months. So i am taking this as an opportunity to improve my case " if i get second chance"

5) Important thing which is bothering me is : in the pay slips , i am showing Only income tax deductions ,there are no other deductions like old age benevolent deductions, provident deductions , do you think it will matter? as in the contracts, normally it is written that all deductions will be as per countries labor laws.

Looking forward for your reply.

First and foremost, pls remember that IRCC will have their ways and means to scrutiny any document u submit. hey might not visit all the companies we mention in our profiles but they do check if the companies we mention are genuine or not.
Lets assume u r an employee of an MNC, ABC Inc. and have an appointment letter in that name and couple of years later the same is bought over by another MNC, XYZ Inc and changes the name of ur company to XYZ Inc and after couple of years if u leave that company, ur relieving letter and reference letter will be in the name of XYZ Inc only. My point is it doent matter to IRCC as long as u prove to them that u joined ABC Inc and the same is XYZ Inc through document.
The same logic applies to ur co as well, right? Appointment letter in the name of Sole Prop co and rest of the documents in the name of Pvt ltd co. and both the companies are one and same

Secondly, if u are showing tax deduction in ur payslip then the co. will give u statement to file IT returns. This might not be required but on a case to case basis the officer might ask u for additional docs like payslip, IT returns and bank statement showing salary credit.

Third point, it does not matter if there are no PF and other deductions

Just to add, u need a PCC for all the countries where u have stayed for more than 6 months.

I belive u have not taken an updated PCC for ur wife, the PCC should cover latest date till the time to submitting ur e-APR and should be color scanned

good luck