I need a straight answer to what I am going to ask...

[Carlo]

I am a Canadian born citizen who is married to an Ecuadorian girl and I want to sponsor her with the "outland" process.
I am currently living in Quebec (I am here in Ecuador so I can wait with her), but I want to move to Ottawa right away with her once she recieves her PR. Now I don't want to sponsor her to Quebec since I will not be living there once she is a resident.
Can I sponor her to Ontario by showing proof that I am looking for a job? Do I as a citizen have the right to sponsor her to what ever province I like???

 

[RobsLuv]

You keep asking this question in one form or another and, apparently, you're not liking the answers you're getting. Bottom line, the guidelines for this aren't clear-cut in the manuals or in the IRPA or Regs - so what you're getting is opinions only. Why don't you contact someone at CIC - either at your local office or by calling the Call Centre . . . or, contact your MP and have them check into it for you? We simply don't know for sure - so you should try to find someone at CIC with some authority who can tell you.

 

[iarblue]

Yes you can,when you send the app to Mississauga you put down as your address as the one in Equador.And like i said you just have to show you are going back to Ontario.By applying for jobs and of course the rental of your friends.
There is nowhere that says you have to move to Montreal again.

 

[Carlo]

Yes you can,when you send the app to Mississauga you put down as your address as the one in Equador.And like i said you just have to show you are going back to Ontario.By applying for jobs and of course the rental of your friends.
There is nowhere that says you have to move to Montreal again.

I understand, but I am "not" living in Ecuador. I live in Montreal, but I am at this moment in Ecuador with my wife who does live here. I am going to wait with her here in Ecuador until she gets her PR and then we will travel together and arrive in Ottawa Ontario.
I only have one question: Do I put my Montreal address on the application forms and explain on a written letter that I am a Quebec resident waiting with my wife in Ecuador who are going to arrive in Ottawa and directly make residence there together?

with this I can just apply as a federal sponsor instead of being a provincial Quebec sponsor correct?

 

[iarblue]

Your trying to beat two birds with one stone.You are in Equador correct you are going to stay there till she gets her PR correct,so you will be in Equador for how long?If you put you are a resident of Quebec im sure you have to apply by Quebec,Thats why im telling you to use the address of where your moving to in Ontario.
But like Robsluv says we have been giving you the same answer all the time.You are a resident of Quebec,you will need to apply through Quebec,if you use your new address that you will be going to in Ontario use it and apply through Ontario.But depending on how long you are in Equador you have to Prove your intention to reestablish yourself in Canada.Go online apply to jobs,copy your application you sent.Even if there is no reply send in the copy of your resume you sent to that job.Going on Monster or other job sites just sends a computer resume to that company you wont have a record of it.You need to physically send it.Also the address you are moving to in Canada even though its the one your using on your app you can put that thats your new address and thats where you will be going once she gets her PR,Apply for OHIP in Ontario online with your new Ontario address.But your friend will have to check that mail for you as that is where they will send all your info if you use that address.

 

[YorkFactory]

From the information you've provided, you currently reside in Ecuador, but plan to move to Ontario as soon as your wife is granted PR. If you are staying primarily and indefinitely in Ecuador, you reside there, not in Canada.

 

[nicholas30]

Don't confuse people here.........Hire a consultant!!!!!!! :-*

 

[toby]

There must be some reason the poster feels so strongly that he "lives" in Montreal, even when he is staying in Ecuador and will go to Ontario.

If there is such a reason, which he has not stated, then why not state his address as Montreal, mailing address as Ecuador, and when he lands, choose Ontario? Many PRs change their landing location at the last minute.

Is it more difficult to apply from Quebec?

Can he change his landing place to Ontario at the last minute, and at the border give his Montreal address as the place to send the PR card to (then get a friend to forward it to him)?

 

[joecreosta]

u need to show strong ties back to canada somehow. do u have a property or children in canada that u take care for?
it wil help

 

[Carlo]

I am sorry for being so repetitive, but I am completely in the dark over here. I can not call a cic agent. The website just gives me direct info and I have no expert on the situation who can help me over here. I am on this post to try to find a few answers, because that is the way you find answers by asking and investigating. There could be a new poster who could give me an extra answer to great answers you have all ready given me. Anyway, when I post it will be strictly questions relating to the application form.

Thank you

 

[canadianwoman]

There must be some reason the poster feels so strongly that he "lives" in Montreal, even when he is staying in Ecuador and will go to Ontario.

If there is such a reason, which he has not stated, then why not state his address as Montreal, mailing address as Ecuador, and when he lands, choose Ontario? Many PRs change their landing location at the last minute.

Is it more difficult to apply from Quebec?

Yes, it is more difficult to apply from Quebec. There are different forms to fill out, and you need approval from Quebec, not just Canada.

As well, he may not want to declare to the provincial gov't that he is no longer a resident of Quebec - he'll lose his health insurance, for one thing.

 

[Carlo]

Yes, it is more difficult to apply from Quebec. There are different forms to fill out, and you need approval from Quebec, not just Canada.

As well, he may not want to declare to the provincial gov't that he is no longer a resident of Quebec - he'll lose his health insurance, for one thing.

Thank you for your patience Canadianwoman! I have been asking this same question, because I am not completely sure how I can go about applying. I don't think that it will be possible to use my friends address in Ontario, so now I need to know if I just need to explain on a separate letter about my situation that I am a Quebec resident and I am going to go straight to Ottawa once my wife gets her PR.
I am irritated by my situation and I would love to get over with this subject in question. I am going to put my Montreal mailing address so my family member can receive the response, but once my wife and I receive her Pr we will be landing in Ontario, and the next day I will be changing my health card from Quebec to Ontario. So I find it to be illogical to apply as a Quebec sponsor.
I talked to my friend and he said it might not be possible to use his Ontario address and that is why I need to know if I really need an Ontario address to apply as a Federal sponsor instead of a Provincial sponsor.
From what I remember on a different post it said that as long as my wife arrives in Ontario I could apply as a federal sponsor. If she arrives and we didn't follow the Quebec requirements for sponsorship then she will not be allowed in?

Anyway, this is the last time I will ask this and I would love if Canadianwoman answers this question

Thank you

 

[canadianwoman]

I am sure you can sponsor your wife to Canada, and that you don't have to sponsor her through Quebec.
Look at form 5540, the Sponsor Questionnaire, question 11: Are you currently living in Canada?
If 'yes', they want your address.
If 'no', they want the date you will return, where you plan to live in Canada, and proof of your plans to reestablish in Canada.
Since using your friend's address in Ontario is out, and you want to claim you are just visiting in Ecuador, not living there, you will have to say 'yes', use your Montreal address, and then also provide the proof they want for the 'no' reply.
On a separate sheet of paper (staple it to the form, and label it as further explanation for question 11), explain that you are a resident of Quebec, but that you will be moving to Ontario when your wife arrives in Canada, and that you and your wife are going to live in Ontario, not Quebec. Give details of your plan to move to Ottawa. Then provide all the proof of this you can get. A paid-up apartment lease in Ontario would be great - your friend could provide one, couldn't he, even if he doesn't want you using the apartment as a mailing address now? That letter you mentioned he could write would be good. A firm job offer, if possible; if not, evidence of a job search. You, your wife, or your child could apply to some type of school (university, English classes, daycare) in Ottawa, and if possible pay for it - a letter of acceptance would be good evidence; a receipt for classes even better. A letter or affidavit from your parents stating that they know of your plans to move to Ontario would be good. Further explain that you and your child are just visiting your wife in Ecuador right now. What kind of visa are you on? If it is a temporary visa or a visiting visa, great, show them.


I think you will find out quite quickly if this will work or not. Probably when they review the application in Mississauga before sending it to Bogota, they will notice you are residing in Quebec but are not applying through Quebec. You won't have the required forms for Quebec, so if they don't accept this situation, they will probably send it back then.

 

[toby]

I am sure you can sponsor your wife to Canada, and that you don't have to sponsor her through Quebec.
Look at form 5540, the Sponsor Questionnaire, question 11: Are you currently living in Canada?
If 'yes', they want your address.
If 'no', they want the date you will return, where you plan to live in Canada, and proof of your plans to reestablish in Canada.

I am Canadian, but staying (temporarily) in China with my wife while we wait for her visa. I put our China address as my address (and will give my sister's address as our temporary Canadian address when my wife lands). I outlined our plans to return to Canada -- but there are very-good other posts on how to detail plans to return to Canada, so look for them elsewhere.

Since using your friend's address in Ontario is out,

I missed that part; why is the friend's address out?


On a separate sheet of paper (staple it to the form, and label it as further explanation for question 11)

By all means label the extra paper, but I believe the instruction expressly forbid stapling.


Then provide all the proof of this you can get. A paid-up apartment lease in Ontario would be great - your friend could provide one, couldn't he, even if he doesn't want you using the apartment as a mailing address now? That letter you mentioned he could write would be good. A firm job offer, if possible; if not, evidence of a job search. You, your wife, or your child could apply to some type of school (university, English classes, daycare) in Toronto, and if possible pay for it - a letter of acceptance would be good evidence; a receipt for classes even better. A letter or affidavit from your parents stating that they know of your plans to move to Ontario would be good. Further explain that you and your child are just visiting your wife in Ecuador right now. What kind of visa are you on? If it is a temporary visa or a visiting visa, great, show them.

All this is good advice.

I think you will find out quite quickly if this will work or not. Probably when they review the application in Mississauga before sending it to Bogota, they will notice you are residing in Quebec but are not applying through Quebec. You won't have the required forms for Quebec, so if they don't accept this situation, they will probably send it back then.

I'd keep the story as simple as possible, to avoid Mississauga's sending it back. If your friend won't allow you to use his address, then outline your other plans, letter from friends or family welcoming you to stay with them (this may require a few bottles of fine scotch), etc. My sponsorship application was approved in the strength of my written plans ( a few paragraphs, no more), and a signed lease (by now I have forfeited the deposit, since Hong Kong is taking longer than I wished to process the application).

 

[Carlo]

Thank you so much canadianwoman and Toby for your futher investigation. You did provide really great answers canadianwoman; they are really direct and understandable. I will look into this all and if I have any questions I will write it on another post. Until then I feel that these new answers are clear.