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How to mention work-from-home done in Canada for Indian employer

JSPCAN

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Hi Seniors,

This is regarding question 11);Employment /Unemployment:
One of my jobs (from India) continued for 15 days even after I came to Canada as PR. It was a work from home set-up.

Facts:
Arrived in Canada on 10 March 2018 as PR
Worked from May 2016 to 9 March 2018 and continued to work for this employer from home in Canada till 31 March 2018.


How should I mention this job :

Singe entry with my Canada Address ...........May 2016 to 31 March 2018.

OR

Two entries
-With Employer's Indian Address ::May 2016 to 9 March 2018
-With my Canada residence address (since its work from home) ::10 March 2018 to 31 March 2018

Regards
JSPCAN
 

Lex2019

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Hi Seniors,

This is regarding question 11);Employment /Unemployment:
One of my jobs (from India) continued for 15 days even after I came to Canada as PR. It was a work from home set-up.

Facts:
Arrived in Canada on 10 March 2018 as PR
Worked from May 2016 to 9 March 2018 and continued to work for this employer from home in Canada till 31 March 2018.


How should I mention this job :

Singe entry with my Canada Address ...........May 2016 to 31 March 2018.

OR

Two entries
-With Employer's Indian Address ::May 2016 to 9 March 2018
-With my Canada residence address (since its work from home) ::10 March 2018 to 31 March 2018

Regards
JSPCAN
You paid taxes in Canada for these days? If not then just skip it. If you did then you must have been on a separate employment agreement (contracted or self-employed) between landing and the end of your employment.
 
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engray

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You paid taxes in Canada for these days? If not then just skip it. If you did then you must have been on a separate employment agreement (contracted or self-employed) between landing and the end of your employment.
Why would he skip it? Don't hide information on purpose...
 
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Lex2019

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Why would he skip it? Don't hide information on purpose...
Not hide, skip. 2 different verbs, 2 different notions. If one's finishing whatever job they had had in the past prior to coming here by just 6 days then it logically is not Canadian employment. Secondly, there was an "if" in case you missed it. Neither myself nor you are giving legal/accounting/tax advice here. Everyone should and in fact must use their own knowledge. I have no idea about the circumstances the OP had contractwise, but smth tells me that there was no special arrangement made for a week of working overseas and that same smth tells me that there were no canadian taxes paid on the part of the income earned while in Canada. If they (taxes) were paid locally, I see no problem whatsoever. Everyone makes their own conclusions. To be fair though IRCC is not the governmental body to be making judgments on taxation, CRA is, but I'd be extra careful walking on that thin ice.
 

JSPCAN

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You paid taxes in Canada for these days? If not then just skip it. If you did then you must have been on a separate employment agreement (contracted or self-employed) between landing and the end of your employment.
I dont know .I will have to check with my accountant for a more relevant answerer.

But I was paid in Indian rupees in my Indian Bank account and a have a pay slip for March 2018 showing my work days from 1st March to 31 March.
I can even ask my employer to issue me a letter of experience saying that I ended my job on 31 March 2018.

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JSPCAN
 

canuck78

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I dont know .I will have to check with my accountant for a more relevant answerer.

But I was paid in Indian rupees in my Indian Bank account and a have a pay slip for March 2018 showing my work days from 1st March to 31 March.
I can even ask my employer to issue me a letter of experience saying that I ended my job on 31 March 2018.

Regards
JSPCAN
You had to declare that income no matter what. You can't just skip declaring income. Benefit/tax credit calculation depends on your worldwide income. You also needed to pay taxes on that income after you became a PR. How much depends on any tax treaty between India and Canada.
 
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JSPCAN

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You paid taxes in Canada for these days? If not then just skip it. If you did then you must have been on a separate employment agreement (contracted or self-employed) between landing and the end of your employment.
I have paid the tax for this India . Can substantiate it with:

-Pay Stub of March 2018 ..showing days of work from 1-31 March 2018
-Bank Statement Showing Direct Deposit of salary

I dont know about Canada. I will have to check with my tax consultant and get back.

JSPCAN
 

dpenabill

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This is regarding question 11);Employment /Unemployment:
One of my jobs (from India) continued for 15 days even after I came to Canada as PR. It was a work from home set-up.
Regarding Tax Filings, Tax Payments:

I will not venture guessing how that employment affected (1) what you should have reported in Canadian tax filings, or (2) what taxes were owed related to that income, EXCEPT to note, with some emphasis, that while @canuck78 correctly refers to the obligation to report world-wide income to CRA for any tax year in which an individual is a resident of Canada, for tax purposes, which it appears you were in 2018, that is true regardless when you became a Canadian PR. And regardless what tax filing or payments you made elsewhere.

Tax related REPORTING requirements are separate from tax PAYMENT obligations. Figuring out what tax is owed is a more detailed calculation and depends on facts and circumstances well beyond the scope of this forum.


FILLING in WORK HISTORY SECTION of CITIZENSHIP APPLICATION:

All that said, what you have done in regards to tax rules is totally irrelevant for purposes of populating the information to be disclosed in the work history section of the citizenship application.

What you should have done in regards to tax rules is likewise totally irrelevant for purposes of populating the information to be disclosed in the work history section of the citizenship application.

References to what you reported, or should have reported in tax filings, and references to what taxes you paid or should have paid, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU REPORT in the work history section of the citizenship application.

For purposes of the query here, itself, discussing the tax side of things is a DISTRACTION.

If you apply for citizenship in April 2021, you MUST disclose ALL employment history, including the information requested in the form, for May 2016 to the present. Period. As accurately, honestly, and completely as you know and understand the actual facts to be.

Thus, in regards to this . . .
You paid taxes in Canada for these days? If not then just skip it.
No. No. Absolutely do not "skip" any employment history. (Note, this is true even if just skipping it would probably have zero impact, as a practical matter; but whether it is likely to have an effect or not is NOT the standard; being fully truthful is the standard.)

Moreover, in general @Lex2019's suggestion that there is a difference between skipping information and hiding information conflates grammar and substance. Consistent with Canadian law generally, IRCC considers the omission of information in documents an individual affirms are true and correct to be MISREPRESENTATION just as much as making an overtly false statement. If asked for this or that information, skipping it is omitting it, and that is MISREPRESENTATION; if that information is material, then it is a material misrepresentation, which can have serious or even severe consequences. It warrants remembering that even the perception of misrepresentation tends to compromise the applicant's credibility, and that is bad enough.

That noted, here again the likelihood of a problem arising from "skipping" this information is perhaps near nil. But in terms of how to approach such questions, again the standard is not based on what an individual is likely to get away with or what will be the easiest way to handle it. Which means, I'd guess, while following @Lex2019's suggestion will very likely be OK, with a very low risk otherwise, that is nonetheless, generally, an unwise approach, and it is definitely NOT according to the applicable rules.

Otherwise, though, @Lex2019 correctly nails the key: "Everyone should and in fact must use their own knowledge."

Which takes this back to the original query, about whether to report the period of employment as a separate entry from reporting the employment while you were in India. Here too, @Lex2019 correctly recognizes that this depends on the nature and circumstances of your employment, as best YOU understand the actual facts.

And it does indeed depend on the nature and terms of your employment. It can differ depending on whether you were an "employee," as best you understand that term, or an independent contractor. What you have described sounds (just sounds; I do not know enough of the underlying facts to know and even if I knew many more facts, it is NOT for me to judge, but rather for YOU to judge as best YOU can) like you were an employee, and can honestly report that you were employed by that employer until that employment ended, and give your best understanding of the location (address) for that job, for that employment.

If you were operating a business in Canada, for example, report accordingly. If you continued to be employed pursuant to the same employment relationship you had before coming to Canada, report accordingly. Per YOUR HONEST understanding.

Which leads me to the main reason for my interjecting here: the application form is NOT a test. IRCC is not grading applicants based on technical expertise in filling out a bureaucratic form. IRCC does not engage in gotcha-games. Reporting it either way at the least discloses it. If you complete the form to the best of your sincere, honest understanding, that is almost always the best approach.

There probably is a technically correct way for you to fill in this information given the particular facts of your situation. But you do not need to get bogged down or distracted by that so long as you have a good faith understanding of what the facts are and you disclose the information accordingly. Which is to say I doubt very much whether it matters which way you report the period of this employment after arriving in Canada. I have already suggested that even skipping it will not likely matter . . . emphasizing, however, that reporting it is the right thing to do. Whichever way you report it, you are disclosing it. And that, most likely, should easily be good enough.

IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM . . . if there is going to be a problem at all related to questions arising from your employment history, that will undoubtedly be due to, or at least triggered by, other reasons, other concerns. If you anticipate your employment history might invite questions or concerns, perhaps the best approach is to be sure to have a bigger margin of actual physical presence before you apply.