How much safe it is to apply CAIPS/GCMS through third party service providers?

[harryy]

Dear All, Could you please share your views how much safe it is to apply CAIPS/GCMS through third party service providers likes caipesnotes.com or lawpoint.ca etc..

 

[ESZB]

Hello harryy

Not advisable. The safe and economical way to is to seek a friend/relative in Canada with PR/Citizenship status for obtaining information regarding your application from CIC. The following forms are applicable:

1. IMM5563E: Access to Information and Personal Information Request Form (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5563E.pdf)

2. IMM5744E: Consent for an Access to Information and Personal Information Request (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5744E.pdf)

Hope it helps

Best Regards
ESZB

 

[harryy]

Thanks ESZB for your response. It helps.

But if we dont have any friend/relative/link in Canada then what are the options? Money is not an issue!!!

If anybody who applied through these vendors have faced any issue?

 

[harryy]

Also I observed that many forum mates has applied through these agencies but none has reported any issue!!!

 

[ESZB]

Well if that is the case then a general advice; go for the ones whose websites are in the ".ca" domain. e.g. www.caips.ca , www.lawpoint.ca etc. Avoid ".com" websites.

Maybe some senior with experience with ordering caips notes can provide better insight.

 

[harryy]

a) http://www.caips.ca/
b) http://caipsnotes.com/index.shtml
c) http://www.caipsretriever.com/2006/03/immigrants-life-in-toronto-canada-ii.html
d) www.lawpoint.ca

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/latest-caips-gcms-notes-forms-and-how-to-order-t99210.0.html

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t72568.0.html

 

[harryy]

How to Order CAIPS Notes?

Note:
It is still CAIPS... not yet merged with GCMS.


Our CAIPS can be ordered thru either of the following three [3] methods:
1. By our Consultant [if u have one] --usually a Free service provided by the good ones, or charge $5
2. Thru a Friend/Relative [who's in Canada] --s/he can obtain it under your authorization. Fees $5
3. From Websites [offering CAIPS Service] --discussed below. Costs $30-40.


How to fetch the CAIPS thru friend/relative [in Canada] ?

Under the Privacy Act, one of our friends/relatives, who reside in Canada, can order the CAIPS under our authorization. There is a CIC fee of only $5 to be incurred for that purpose. Here's what we should do:

1. Download the form here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5563B.pdf
2. Fill the specified colums/fields, viz:
- a) Visa post [ND, Buffalo, London etc.]
- b) Your File number [Bxxxxxxx]
- c) Date of Birth [applicant's, not the rep's]
- d) The requester's Postal address [Canadian Address only]
3. Tick the box "for CAIPS Notes request" on the form.
4. Enclose copies of the rep's [not yours] PR Card/visa/COPR etc. [Canadian ID].
5. Attach the Consent Form [signed by each applicant for "use of a representative"].
6. Enclose a Money Order/Draft for $5.
7. Send (Mail or Courier 'only') all the documents to:
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
(Access to Information and Privacy Coordinator)
Narono Building 360 Laurier Avenue West, 10th Floor
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1L1
Tel.: (613) 957-6512
8. Your CAIPS Notes should return by 4-6 weeks [usually].


Obtaining our CAIPS thru the websites:

There r many websites who offer such services, usually charging anything between $30-40. However, in that 'basic' price they'd only send u the retrieved CAIPS Notes; and would charge u furthermore for explaining them. Nonetheless, it's not a bad idea to yet take their services. Most applicants use either of the following websites for obtaining their CAIPS:

a) http://www.caips.ca/
b) http://caipsnotes.com/index.shtml
c) http://www.caipsretriever.com/2006/03/immigrants-life-in-toronto-canada-ii.html


When will my CAIPS arrive?
As our request application reaches CIC, they'd take a week+ to retrieve it. Despatching takes another week+. While the postal duration could again be one more week. Oh yes, it is send by CIC thru regular postal mail. Thus, overall we r looking at 4-6 weeks to receive our CAIPS notes.

When I'm reading my CAIPS, is it "current" information?
No. As there's a gap between the CAIPS printing [by CIC] & receiving [by us], we would be getting the picture around 3-4 weeks back dated. Things might change in between... some BF'Ds gone by, some addnl Codes logged.

When should I obtain my CAIPS?
It's only required when things have gone overboard... when there's much delay in case progress.... or when we have received an interview letter. Our CAIPS could elicit some info on the perception of our VO/s towards our case... why an interview was required... What stage we r currently in... points calc... when would be the next review date.... next BF'D etc. Thus, we could fetch our CAIPS "after" 8-12 months of case processing.

When should I obtain "another" set of my CAIPS?
It's unwise to frequently apply for our CAIPS notes. Anything between 6-8 months is Ok... 'coz before that nothing much would have been logged on it anyway.

How do I "read" my CAIPS?
Most of the info on our CAIPS r 'coded'. Member FinPro graciously have deliberated on these codes during his 6th Oct 2006 post in this very forum. Pls read it here: http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/caips-codes-t2988.0.html

NOTE:
As we 'land' our case logging continues by CIC/CBSA - but thereon it's recorded in "FOSS".

Hope that helped!
Qorax
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CAIPS:
CAIPS is short for "Computer Assisted Immigration Processing System". It is the computer system historically used by CIC to process visa applications, and holds all the information on the current status of every immigration application being processed by overseas offices (ie. those outside of Canada), other than new applications at offices which have switched to using the "GCMS" system.

FOSS:
FOSS is short for "Field Operations Support System". It is the computer system historically used by CIC offices in Canada to track all immigration-related information of "in-Canada" applicants - as well as continue to do so for all applicants post 'landing'. The FOSS database is a central repository of information on all persons who have been, may be or are wanted to be seen by Immigration staff. FOSS comprises numerous components including query functions, status entry, docs creation, refugee monitoring, medical profiles, client name and address, airport inspection, access & security, and records maintenance. All Immigration staff that work with the public and the staff that support these officers use FOSS. It is also used by Canadian consulates in various locations in the United States. And like the CAIPS system -it is being superceded by GCMS as well.

GCMS:
GCMS is short for "Global Case Management System", and is the newer computer system that CIC is rolling out across their offices around the globe. Once fully incorporated it would supersede CAIPS & FOSS; and manage all info under one umbrella - Mother of All. It's still under implementation in many overseas CHCs. And expected to be fully operational by 2012.

 

[harryy]

Hi ESZB, found something useful...

 

[rchandrans]

Hi

I had applied thrice and recieved the GCMS with 30 days.I never had any issues with lawpoint.ca

 

[thebaft]

My question is this ... If you've had two previous applications to CIC for temporary resident visas and now you have a current fswp application with CIC (all with the same UCI), can you use your UCI to request for all the details of the 3 applications ... or do you have to use the specific file numbers to request for details of each of the applications? Thanks!

 

[Shrus]

Dear,

I think that there is already online application in cic.gc.ca. I don't know why you are looking for other websites. Large number of websites are just to grab your money.

Better be careful
Shrus

 

[PMM]

Hi

Dear,

I think that there is already online application in cic.gc.ca. I don't know why you are looking for other websites. Large number of websites are just to grab your money.

Better be careful
Shrus

Because they not in Canada!