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How long does a Canadian born citizen have to be out of the country to be considered a non resident?

Does residing in Canada mean to be physically there? or can you be in a different country for many months on a really long vacation, have a Canadian address and still be considered to be residing in Canada?
 

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It depends for what purpose. Generally if you're outside Canada more than you're inside (say, more than 180 days out of the year) your residency could in question. You probably wouldn't qualify for provincial health insurance for example.

When you can apply for citizenship, days spent outside the country working for a Canadian company, for example, count as Canadian residency.
 

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It depends for what purpose. Generally if you're outside Canada more than you're inside (say, more than 180 days out of the year) your residency could in question. You probably wouldn't qualify for provincial health insurance for example.

When you can apply for citizenship, days spent outside the country working for a Canadian company, for example, count as Canadian residency.
To your kind answer I just want to say that I am a born Canadian, so what you posted here does not apply towards my situation.
I am asking that if I am a Canadian born citizen, is there a limit of time until you are considered a resident outside of Canada?
 

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Carlo said:
How long does a Canadian born citizen have to be out of the country to be considered a non resident?

Does residing in Canada mean to be physically there? or can you be in a different country for many months on a really long vacation, have a Canadian address and still be considered to be residing in Canada?
BeShoo is right. It depends for what purpose.
For example, you can live outside of Canada for years, but still be considered a Canadian resident for income tax purposes. Revenue Canada states that you must have severed ties to Canada to be considered a non-resident, not just live outside of Canada. So they expect you to have informed your provincial health authorities so you are no longer have health coverage. You should have closed your Canadian bank accounts, unless you need it for loan payments. You should have sold your house, in most cases.
So you can be outside of Canada on an extended vacation for months and still be a resident of Canada.
Basically, 'resident of Canada' does not mean just 'in Canada', and 'not resident in Canada' does not mean just 'not in Canada.'
 

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If you're talking about sponsoring a family member "within Canada", you need to be physically present in Canada during all the months it takes to process and so does the person you are sponsoring. You might get away with short trips outside the country for business reasons or imilar, but if they gave you 2 weeks notice about an interview, you'd better be in Canada when they want to see you.
 

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BeShoo is right. It depends for what purpose.
For example, you can live outside of Canada for years, but still be considered a Canadian resident for income tax purposes. Revenue Canada states that you must have severed ties to Canada to be considered a non-resident, not just live outside of Canada. So they expect you to have informed your provincial health authorities so you are no longer have health coverage. You should have closed your Canadian bank accounts, unless you need it for loan payments. You should have sold your house, in most cases.
So you can be outside of Canada on an extended vacation for months and still be a resident of Canada.
Basically, 'resident of Canada' does not mean just 'in Canada', and 'not resident in Canada' does not mean just 'not in Canada.'


Even if I am considered a resident of Canada, can I apply as a "outland" sponsor from Ecuador and put an Ecuadorian address on the application forms???
 

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Yes. "Outland' applications do not refer to where you, the sponsor, reside. It means the application will be sent to the visa office that serves the country your sponsored partner is applying from. A sponsored person who is living outside of Canada must use the 'outland' application. A sponsored person who is living in Canada can use the 'inland' application, but can also choose to do the 'outland' if they prefer.
'Outland' is usually faster than 'inland', and if the application is refused, 'outland' applicants can appeal; 'inland' applicants can't.
 

Carlo

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Yes. "Outland' applications do not refer to where you, the sponsor, reside. It means the application will be sent to the visa office that serves the country your sponsored partner is applying from. A sponsored person who is living outside of Canada must use the 'outland' application. A sponsored person who is living in Canada can use the 'inland' application, but can also choose to do the 'outland' if they prefer.
'Outland' is usually faster than 'inland', and if the application is refused, 'outland' applicants can appeal; 'inland' applicants can't.
Again my family and I would like to thank you for taking your time to answer my questions. :)

How long does the "outland" residency process usually take if it is a routine case such as mine???
 

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Carlo said:
How long does the "outland" residency process usually take if it is a routine case such as mine???
Have a look here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/05-fc-spouses.asp#west

It looks like your closest "outland" office is Lima, with a typical waiting time of 8 to 12 months. You need to add about 1 to 2 months for the sponsorship to be processed. That always takes place in Mississauga, Ontario. If they need to interview the applicant for an application processed in Peru, it would be done in Peru.

If you (the sponsor) wants to wait in Ecuador for the processing, you need to prove to them that you will come back to Canada as soon as the application is approved. A job and a place to live in Canada should be shown.
 

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One more thing: you have to allow about a month more for Quebec to approve, since you'll be moving to Quebec.
 

Carlo

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Have a look here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/international/05-fc-spouses.asp#west

It looks like your closest "outland" office is Lima, with a typical waiting time of 8 to 12 months. You need to add about 1 to 2 months for the sponsorship to be processed. That always takes place in Mississauga, Ontario. If they need to interview the applicant for an application processed in Peru, it would be done in Peru.

If you (the sponsor) wants to wait in Ecuador for the processing, you need to prove to them that you will come back to Canada as soon as the application is approved. A job and a place to live in Canada should be shown.
Actually it is Bogotá Colombia which is the "outland" office which deals with the residency process for Ecuadorians.

OK, well I do have a current address in Montreal, but I would like to go to Ottawa. I am going to get a rental agreement from my friend, but it is in Ottawa and I will not be in my current Montreal address when I go back when my wife gets her PR, does it matter??? Or it fine, as long as its a rental agreement signed by him??? does it need to be notarized???
 

Carlo

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One more thing: you have to allow about a month more for Quebec to approve, since you'll be moving to Quebec.
I am not moving to Quebec, I am actually going to go to Ottawa Ontario. my friend agreed to give me a rental agreement to prove that I am going back to Canada once my wife receives her PR.
 

BeShoo

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Carlo said:
Actually it is Bogotá Colombia which is the "outland" office which deals with the residency process for Ecuadorians.
I was afraid of that. Unfortunately, the Bogotá office is the second-slowest in the world, but I still think that's who you need to deal with.

Or it fine, as long as its a rental agreement signed by him??? does it need to be notarized??
It might be a good idea for it to be notarized. It might carry more weight that way. It seems from reports I've been reading here that various visa offices often ask for more information after sponsors' return to Canada.

I'm sure that they would also like to know that you are arranging employment in Canada.
 

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Carlo said:
Actually it is Bogotá Colombia which is the "outland" office which deals with the residency process for Ecuadorians.

OK, well I do have a current address in Montreal, but I would like to go to Ottawa. I am going to get a rental agreement from my friend, but it is in Ottawa and I will not be in my current Montreal address when I go back when my wife gets her PR, does it matter??? Or it fine, as long as its a rental agreement signed by him??? does it need to be notarized???
Bogota takes an average of 12 months to 16 months.
If you are not going to live in Quebec after your wife gets her PR, you will just have to explain this on the application. The more proof you have that you are planning to go back to live in Canada, the better. The rental agreement is good - it doesn't need to be notarized, but notarized is better. Also show any plans you have or your wife has to get a job - even if you don't have a job offer, proof you've been looking is also good. Writing a letter explaining your plans once you both get to Canada is also good - and sometimes the visa officer will ask for such a letter if you don't provide one.
 

Carlo

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Bogota takes an average of 12 months to 16 months.
If you are not going to live in Quebec after your wife gets her PR, you will just have to explain this on the application. The more proof you have that you are planning to go back to live in Canada, the better. The rental agreement is good - it doesn't need to be notarized, but notarized is better. Also show any plans you have or your wife has to get a job - even if you don't have a job offer, proof you've been looking is also good. Writing a letter explaining your plans once you both get to Canada is also good - and sometimes the visa officer will ask for such a letter if you don't provide one.
Wow, Bogotá takes from 12 to 16 months!? Well is there any other option? Can I send it to Lima Peru? Or does it have to be from Bogotá?
Is there anything I can do to make the process faster in Bogotá???