Help to determine NOC code

[vsgautam]

Hi All,

My current profile in a nutshell includes MIS reporting for onsite account development managers....kindly guide what exact NOC this should be listed under as there are more than one listing similar profile to mine e.g. NOC 0125, 1122, 4163..

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Vaibhav

 

[Asivad Anac]

The difference between the NOCs you have chosen is...

012 - This is NOC 0 sub-group corresponding to Managers in financial and business services. Senior to Middle management roles that typically require many years of experience and advanced degree(s).

112 - This is NOC A sub-group corresponding to Human resources and business service professionals. Junior management or professional roles that typically require university education and some experience.

416 - This is NOC A sub-group corresponding to Policy and program researchers, consultants and officers. Junior management or professional roles that typically require university education and some experience.

The difference lies in seniority, industry, scope of work etc. Read the NOC details carefully and choose the one whose main duties correspond closely with your roles & responsibilities at your workplace.

All the best!

 

[vsgautam]

Hi Asivad,

Thank you for your prompt assistance, your reply has surely cleared some of my doubts, however, a few new queries have arisen and I would really appreciate if you could share your inputs on them. But before listing the queries, please be informed of my educational and work exp. background so that it's easy for you to share specific thoughts -

Education - Master's in Business Administration (WES evaluation awaited) + Bachelor in Commerce hons (3 year course)

Work experience - 7 years + as consulting analyst (Travel domain) , business analyst (Financial industry), data analyst (Management Consulting), team lead roles

As you may agree after observing my education + work exp, that my work exp lies in between 012 and 112 NOC codes (as some responsibilities are overlapping) and I do understand that we can select different NOC for different job experience -

1. If the immigration case officer doesn't agree with our interpretation of NOC, can this be a reason of rejecting application?
2. Are you aware of any cases where application has been rejected due to incorrect NOC selection?
3. If the answer to above questions is "yes", then is there any other source where we can exactly determine our NOC?
4 Do you suggest that the job reference letter mentions some of the duties verbatim as listed on CIC website (NOC list)? this is because my reference letter from my current org contains more or less the Job description as advertised for new hiring but unfortunately doesn't contain the exact wordings mentioned in the NOC list

Thank you in advance for you time and help.

Regards,

Vaibhav

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Asivad,

Thank you for your prompt assistance, your reply has surely cleared some of my doubts, however, a few new queries have arisen and I would really appreciate if you could share your inputs on them. But before listing the queries, please be informed of my educational and work exp. background so that it's easy for you to share specific thoughts -

Education - Master's in Business Administration (WES evaluation awaited) + Bachelor in Commerce hons (3 year course)

Work experience - 7 years + as consulting analyst (Travel domain) , business analyst (Financial industry), data analyst (Management Consulting), team lead roles

As you may agree after observing my education + work exp, that my work exp lies in between 012 and 112 NOC codes (as some responsibilities are overlapping) and I do understand that we can select different NOC for different job experience -

1. If the immigration case officer doesn't agree with our interpretation of NOC, can this be a reason of rejecting application?

The VO checks your application for basic eligibility for EE, program eligibility and CRS score calculation. Choosing a NOC incorrectly will lead to rejection only if NOC chosen is outside of 0/A/B or if NOC chosen is completely at odds with job roles & responsibilities. So the answer is Yes it is possible but doesn't happen as often as you would think because applicants spend a lot of time on this and usually end up choosing the right NOC.

2. Are you aware of any cases where application has been rejected due to incorrect NOC selection?

Not on this forum under EE so far.

3. If the answer to above questions is "yes", then is there any other source where we can exactly determine our NOC?
4 Do you suggest that the job reference letter mentions some of the duties verbatim as listed on CIC website (NOC list)? this is because my reference letter from my current org contains more or less the Job description as advertised for new hiring but unfortunately doesn't contain the exact wordings mentioned in the NOC list

No. In fact, exact wordings would hurt your case because then the letter would look as if it were written keeping CIC in mind. The roles and responsibilities have to be similar to NOC duties and not a copy-paste job. CIC understands that the rest of the World isn't bound by how CIC chooses to define job roles.

Thank you in advance for you time and help.

Regards,

Vaibhav

 

[vsgautam]

Thank you Asivad once again for your prompt reply. This surely clears a lot of my doubts. I do not really think that my selected NOC's would be completely at odds with my actual profile, so I guess I should be safe there.

Cheers!

 

[preeti.msingh109]

If u r very unsure abt ur NOC, U can put a query and share ur responsibilities on this email Id (noc-cnp@workingincanada.gc.ca.) and they can help with with the matching NOC.

 

[vsgautam]

Hi Preeti,

Thank you for the info. One more quick question for the forum members -

1. Do we need Job reference letters for spouse also (she is not the primary applicant), if we are claiming work exp points for work outside of Canada. I read somewhere that job reference letters is only needed for the primary applicant, just want to confirm.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
VSG

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Preeti,

Thank you for the info. One more quick question for the forum members -

1. Do we need Job reference letters for spouse also (she is not the primary applicant), if we are claiming work exp points for work outside of Canada. I read somewhere that job reference letters is only needed for the primary applicant, just want to confirm.

Not needed for spouse's work experience outside Canada. No points for that either.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
VSG

 

[vsgautam]

Thank you....

 

[aspireimmi]

Hello Every1 and ASIVAD ANAC

quick question for your expert advise.

I am ready with ECA and IELTS scores. and willing to fill in EE profile.

BTech in Electronics and communication engineering (2133)

MSc in Wireless Communication System Engineering ( ECA done for it)

My Designation is PROJECT ENGINEER (in wireless networking ). I have gone through the

NOC list but the title project engineer is not available. However 2147- Wireless

communication networks engineer is available.

1- my job profile matches with the 2147 code but my designation is different. What shall

i do ? can i use this noc code ?

2- Can i do my own the processing or Consultant is required ? consultant is asking SAR14000/- = INR 224000


I appreciate for your help.

Br,
H Mir

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hello Every1 and ASIVAD ANAC

quick question for your expert advise.

I am ready with ECA and IELTS scores. and willing to fill in EE profile.

BTech in Electronics and communication engineering (2133)

MSc in Wireless Communication System Engineering ( ECA done for it)

My Designation is PROJECT ENGINEER (in wireless networking ). I have gone through the

NOC list but the title project engineer is not available. However 2147- Wireless

communication networks engineer is available.

1- my job profile matches with the 2147 code but my designation is different. What shall

i do ? can i use this noc code ?

Answered this elsewhere.

2- Can i do my own the processing or Consultant is required ? consultant is asking SAR14000/- = INR 224000


This forum can provide a lot of assistance but some people will and do prefer the comfort of having a consultant. EE is completely online and there are enough people on this forum who are almost through the entire process so you can count on a lot of support and 'been there done that' responses. Having said that, hiring a consultant is purely your choice.

I appreciate for your help.

Br,
H Mir