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katie3234

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I am a Canadian Citizen, engaged to an Albanian citizen. I have began gathering documents for when we do get married and begin the process. But I have ran into a few dilemmas along the way and would love some advice and guidance.

2 major headaches.
1.)He was deported from Greece between 3-5 times. They were not always straight forward deportations. A few times he was given a paper saying that he had “x amount of time” to leave the country. The last one he was actually detained in prison for a month, went through countless court hearings, and eventually was deported. At which point he and I both returned to Albania.

2.)When he and I returned to Albania he went to get a new passport, Albania issued new ones for all the citizens with a more modern design. Anyways his birthday is July, 21 but when he went to get his new passport they said that his birthday was actually July, 22 and he had been celebrating it on the wrong day all his life. Recently he went to get his birth certificate, one of the documents he will need when we get married, and now the Albanian authorities are telling him his birthday is July, 20th. Needless to say it’s a very large head ache. It would not be a dilemma if he and I had not applied for a visitor visa for him in the past with his birthday being July, 22nd which is what his passport said at the time, and his birth certificate.


-Regarding his deportation. Is it best to just come clean about the fact that he was deported? Rather than laying, and risking the chance the Canadian visa folk find out?

-Regarding the mess with all his different birthdays. If I were to get a certified letter from the Albanian Authorities saying that they made an error in previously issuing him a passport with the wrong birthday would that work? I don’t want it to come off as though he was running around collecting numerous passports – which is definitely not the case.



On an easier note:
1.)When we get married, it will be done in Albania. And we are not having the ceremony with family and friends until we come to Canada. I am hoping that is not an issue.
2.)Is showing skype history and phone bills from calling to calling cards enough? I only ever make calls with calling cards, so is highlighting the 1800 calling card number enough?

My main concerns are his being deported before, and all the mix ups with his passport, and birth certificate. Any advice or information on what I can do would be greatly appreciated, and more than welcome!
 
1) The only problem with being deported from Greece would be if he was convicted of a criminal offence. I'm not sure of the details, but you may want to get a lawyer's advice on that. Deportation from a third country doesn't necessarily make him inadmissible to Canada (unless the deportation was because of a crime). He will have to answer "yes" to the questions on the background/declaration where it asks if you've ever been removed from any country; so he will definitely have to explain what happened and when. Not admitting this upfront would be serious as that's misrepresentation which would make him inadmissible to Canada.

2) I'd suggest you attach a clear explanation for the discrepancy, with all the info you have, including copies of his previous and current passports, birth certificate, etc. The inconsistency won't be a problem, as long as you explain it. A letter stating his previous passport was issued incorrectly would certainly suffice (but if you can't get this, I wouldn't worry too much).

1) Re the ceremony, just be sure to explain why the ceremony is small. Not having *any* friends or family there might be problematic; but it's all about the evidence as a whole that shows your relationship is genuine and continuing.

2) Just do the best you can with the call histories - if it just shows 1800 numbers then that isn't proof, per se, but then very little is really "proof", it's the package as a whole that counts.

Read over OP2 5.26 and 5.35 for the kinds of evidence CIC is looking to see:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/RESOURCES/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf
 
Thank you so much for your response, it’s very reassuring!

When he was deported for Greece, it was for entering the country illegally. And it is actually where we met. And lived together, until he was deported. So I don’t believe that it would have been listed as a criminal offence. I am trying to get a police record check from Greece done for him, which is difficult since he can’t go in person to get it ....... Also when we had applied for his visor visa, which he was denied because they did not feel that he sent enough evidence showing that he would return to Albania at the end of his visit we checked off No to his being deported before, and what not. At the time it seemed like a good idea. But now, I am worried that they will look bad at that and peg us as liars.

I am really hoping that the immigration authorities won’t dwell too much on his having multiple passports, since it was out of our hands. I am hoping that when I return to Albania I will be able to get a notarized letter from the Albanian passport issuing people saying that it was an error on their part.

It just makes me nervous, since our case is a little bit more complicated than a typical case.

But I do have tons of evidence showing our phone calls to one another, money transfers, we email back and forth all day long, and have many photos with our friends, and out and about. So I will just hope that despite his being deported, my lying about it, and his passport mix ups that they will look past that and see that we are a genuine couple, wishing to reside like a normal couple – instead of across the ocean from one another.
 
matthewc said:
1) Re the ceremony, just be sure to explain why the ceremony is small. Not having *any* friends or family there might be problematic; but it's all about the evidence as a whole that shows your relationship is genuine and continuing.

my husband and i had a private (just he and i) ceremony... our application was approved (and very quickly for our processing office), so it's not totally hopeless... our ceremony was a "destination wedding" (the destination happened to be his home country jamaica, and the wedding dress was stretch pannel)... we had a lovely cliffside ceremony and plenty of pictures taken...

so all and all, they absolutely take other factors into consideration and didn't question at all why we didn't have others (even his family on the island) attend...

good luck