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HELP! Ineligible to sponsor parents-Documents sent to Warsaw

ARCHIGIRL

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Mar 11, 2017
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Please help!
Received a letter from IRCC that I am ineligible to sponsor due to not meeting minimum income requirements.
Marital status was selected wrong. Sent corrections via WebForm after receiving letter from IRCC with the decision.
Letter from IRCC says the documents will be sent to Warsaw.

Does anyone has the same experience? Do I even have a chance to be re-considered?
What to expect?
 

Buletruck

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Received a letter from IRCC that I am ineligible to sponsor due to not meeting minimum income requirements.
If you don't meet the LICO requirements, you have no chance at this time to sponsor them. Until you meet LICO, you will be found ineligible. There is no appeal or leeway on that requirement.
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
11,426
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
ARCHIGIRL said:
Please help!
Received a letter from IRCC that I am ineligible to sponsor due to not meeting minimum income requirements.
Marital status was selected wrong. Sent corrections via WebForm after receiving letter from IRCC with the decision.
Letter from IRCC says the documents will be sent to Warsaw.

Does anyone has the same experience? Do I even have a chance to be re-considered?
What to expect?
What do you mean "marital status was selected wrong"? You marital status or your parents? So your family size was +1 more than it should have been and you actually qualified at lower family size LICO?

You need to clarify.
 

ARCHIGIRL

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Mar 11, 2017
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Well, I was divorced at the time of filling up the application.
We have never 'officially' been considered 'common-law' nor never filed our taxes together etc. We have been leaving together a few years and when I was completing the application I selected automatically 'divorced' without hesitation. Instead, I should have selected 'common-law' and include my BF as a co-signer.
Now, I've sent web forms with documents explaining 'the mistake' i did and am hoping there is a chance I can be re-considered.

Also, I dont understand how IRCC online calculator showed I am eligible on my own and 3 years later IRCC comes back saying I am not. I would not apply if I was not eligible. It is a waste of my & my parents money.

I also spoke to customer service at IRCC and they suggest I sent all the forms, but, of course, they could not guarantee anything. I was hoping to get some answers here
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,426
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
ARCHIGIRL said:
We have never 'officially' been considered 'common-law' nor never filed our taxes together etc. We have been leaving together a few years and when I was completing the application I selected automatically 'divorced' without hesitation.
You are officially common-law for tax and immigration purposes as soon as you reach 1 year cohabitation. This is law, is mandatory and is not optional or at your choosing. If you are still filing taxes as single, you are committing tax fraud and have been doing so since you reached 1 year of cohabitation.

Instead, I should have selected 'common-law' and include my BF as a co-signer.
Now, I've sent web forms with documents explaining 'the mistake' i did and am hoping there is a chance I can be re-considered.
Is your common-law partner a Canadian citizen/PR?

Your common-law partner will increase your family size by +1. I assumed you applied in 2014 and showed income from 2010, 2011 and 2012? If your partner is a citizen/PR, would adding his income to these years qualify you?


Also, I dont understand how IRCC online calculator showed I am eligible on my own and 3 years later IRCC comes back saying I am not. I would not apply if I was not eligible. It is a waste of my & my parents money.
You probably qualified at your wrong family size, and not the family size including your common-law partner. The income tables are quite easy to read, so you should be able to see on your own if you qualify or not.

Unfortunately nobody here can tell you what will happen. IMO if you add your common-law partner as co-signer and your income now qualifies, there's a good chance the visa office will consider this and continue processing the app.
 

ARCHIGIRL

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Mar 11, 2017
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Thank you!

We have paid our fines to CRA already. It is all good.
Combined income would def qualify us. My 2010 income dragged to a lower side (based on the letter from IRCC).

Would IRCC re-consider, you are saying, even if the decision has been made?
 

ARCHIGIRL

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Mar 11, 2017
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and my husband now ('common-law partner' I was talking earlier) is a canadian citizen.

Would IRCC look at the current financial situation/ family size? We now also have a baby together so the family size will be 5 all together with my parents... I mean soo many things had changed since we applied.
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,426
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
ARCHIGIRL said:
Thank you!

We have paid our fines to CRA already. It is all good.
Combined income would def qualify us. My 2010 income dragged to a lower side (based on the letter from IRCC).

Would IRCC re-consider, you are saying, even if the decision has been made?
So would adding in his 2010 income qualify you at the family size when you applied (4 people)? If letter said your app was still sent to Warsaw, then there is a possibility your income change can still be considered. Of course only the visa office knows and has the final say. See if you can also send a case-specific note to Warsaw office about adding your common-law partner as co-signer. You would also need him to fill out an undertaking form as co-signer, and send his NOAs from CRA going back to 2010.

With your new baby, income for family size of 5 is only needed from the year the baby was born in.
 

ARCHIGIRL

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Mar 11, 2017
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Thank you!

So, at what point IRCC will ask for updated incomes?

As well, I am a bit confused with the wording in the letter I received:
The sponsor did not include a co-signer in the initial application, and the sponsor did not meet
the MNI for the initial assessment period. A co-signer can only be added to an application
after it has been submitted when there has been a change in circumstances and a positive
decision has been rendered for the initial financial assessment. - does that mean there still a chance or it means I should have updated the info prior to IRCC making a decision and its a little too late now?

Reassessments
All sponsors are given the opportunity to provide as much supporting documentation as possible at
the time their sponsorship application is submitted. An officer then renders a decision based on the
information that was provided. Unfortunately, this decision cannot be reconsidered where the sponsor
omitted pertinent information or where financial circumstances have changed since that submission.

Reassessments may only be conducted if:
a) you met the MNI on the date of filing of this application, and
b) new information arises to indicate you would no longer be able to meet the MNI. - am I out then based on the circumstances I described earlier?
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,426
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
ARCHIGIRL said:
Unfortunately, this decision cannot be reconsidered where the sponsor
omitted pertinent information or where financial circumstances have changed since that submission.
This does not sound good.

However you've done all you can by contacting the visa office and telling them to reconsider your sponsorship eligibility based on having a co-signer at the time of application. Based on the letter you got it sounds like they may not consider the co-signer for 2010 income and rejection is a very real possibility. But wait until you get an official decision either way.

If your app is rejected, unfortunately you'll need to try again from scratch with the lottery in 2018.
 

ARCHIGIRL

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Mar 11, 2017
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Thanks.

I was also wondering where I can find a co-signer form?
I might as well send them that too.

Argh.... :(((
 

scylla

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Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
ARCHIGIRL said:
Thanks.

I was also wondering where I can find a co-signer form?
I might as well send them that too.

Argh.... :(((
To the best of my knowledge you can't add a co-signer after the fact. The co-signer has to be indicated when the application is first submitted. However there's certainly no harm trying.

Here's the new form. I don't know if the old is still posted: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5768E.PDF
 

ARCHIGIRL

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Mar 11, 2017
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Yeah, thats what the customer service person said too. He tried to add a co-signer over the phone but after a few minutes of waiting - advised he cant do it.

Wondering if it makes a difference to contact Warsaw office directly or through the Web Form?