Got a Call from CIC not 2 appear for Oath bec of immigrat internal Verification

[Ram007]

Hi Fds i am very new to this form if you guys have heard something like this can you please share with me
i applied for citizenship last year in nov-2014 got a letter for test in june clear the test in july with 20/20 with interview also perfectly fine .
got a letter for oath in calgary on 19th oct 2015 but on 14th got a call from cic calgary office not to come because of re scheduling as some internal verification has not been recived to them from immigration canada and i call cic to verify they say the same stauts not to go but i still went their so just dont want to miss. so they can say i missed the written schedule of oath from cic so its not their fault.

i still go their and i sign the doc and gave my PR card and the attend the whole cermoney of oath and later on i have not been called to come on stage to collect the certifcate and when i went to ask the judge attendent why i have not been called she said i am the one who called you so we will send you a letter to reschdeule you so please leave now and they have given my pr card back to me . i check my status online also and it shows that you have to come for oath on 19th oct 2015 at this time and it shows decison made.

as i have applied for my sibblings visitor visa on that behalf and they got the visa and they all are here in canada to attend the cermony how bad its for them also that they faced this situation with me

please fds its very heart breaking for me to leave the venue without certificate i dont know why this happened to me i checked with cic call center they said the same thing some internal verfication process please wait we will let you know and this invitation is sent you accidentally and that lady she had my certificate with in her hand please update me if you guys have any info on this.

i dont know if someone from my eniemes send a fake complaint to cic as i have never done anything wrong in canada never ever get into any trouble.
please of some1 has similar kind of experinece or any info on this please please update me

 

[Bigudi]

Hello there.
I'm not an expert, but couldn't you order an ATIP? Maybe it will clarify your situation.

 

[Ram007]

hi thanks for the reply what is ATIP i dont know anyting will you be more specific if some1 has any info about my problem please help me
Thanks to evevryone

 

[wes786]

https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/welcome.do

ATIP tells you what is going on with your files with all the notes that agents make and the current status etc. takes 30 days for processing though but its worth a shot.


I recall a similar situation happened to someone else as well, and I am trying to find the thread. I will post the link here once I find that topic.

 

[bestfriendever]

I am sorry to hear that happened to you. But it looks like you were caught in the red tape.

ATIP is basically asking the CIC to send you a copy of your internal documents in your process of applying for Citizenship. They contain notes on your file and might shed some light to what you are experiencing. Please remember that you will need to do a little decoding when receiving the document as CIC uses their own jargon and abbreviations.

More research about the ATIP can be found in this forum as it's been discussed ad nauseam in previous threads.


This is the link you can refer when making your request to have a copy of your file disclosed to you. It takes 30 days.

Hope to be of any help,

Cheers.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/atip/requests-atip.asp

 

[Ram007]

HI Fds thanks alot once again for the support and giving your time in this as i never did anything wrong in my life here in canada it looks like some1 who jealus from me in my fds or eniemies thay have send some kind of fake complaint to cic. Is that why you mentioned above is red tape is and how long genereally their process time is to clear the investigation as i am sure they must have done all my investigation before sending me the oath document so if they do the verfication again i hope there will not be a problem as i never ever did anything wrong.

If i apply for ATIP will they not get mad at me that why this person is bothering us or they take some weired action on my file as they can do anything they want. and i feel scared from them. is there something i can do later on in court just in case legally.

please advice me the best route and if anyone has any update on this as spoke to 2 lawyers they said they have not heard something like this before as they told me investigation has to be done before the oath letter not after.
can you guys share as much info as much you have .
you guys are like sunlight to me in my life right now i am so much thankful to you all plz help me

 

[Msafiri]

How did you acquire your PR? Not sure how competent your lawyers are sorry to say. Recently CIC are checking in some detail/targeting those citizenship applicants who obtained their PR through:

1. 'business class' category to make sure they have fulfilled their conditions - including employing x number of PRs/Canadians and having an actual business that pays taxes. Previously CIC didn't always do this and typically the PR parents would have left Canada after a few months and not fulfilled their landing conditions but their kids remained behind and applied for citizenship. The conditions are imposed on the entire family not just the parents. There has been at least 2 examples on this forum of such applicants having their oath cancelled/ delayed until an immigration verification is completed.

2. refugees to make sure there isn't a case for cessation proceedings. This typically if you lied about your situation to obtain refugee status and/or travelled back to your home country repeatedly whilst a refugee and thus according to CIC re-availed yourself the protection of your home country. This results in cessation of your PR status which is a pre-requisite for citizenship.

3. There is either a huge bureaucratic/red tape mess somewhere in CIC or they have something on file that is so credible as to halt proceedings. You claim someone is after you and may have written to CIC falsely so it seems there is a situation here rightly or wrongly but there is nothing you can do but wait. Alternatively you can take CIC to court via a writ of Mandamus but its going to cost you and the courts may decide not to even accept the writ.

4. In the meantime ATIP process to get your GCMS notes is a cheap/free option to at least know what is on file. Note CIC can and do blank out any sensitive material so you may get nothing out of GCMS but you wont know till you try.

 

[wes786]

HI Fds thanks alot once again for the support and giving your time in this as i never did anything wrong in my life here in canada it looks like some1 who jealus from me in my fds or eniemies thay have send some kind of fake complaint to cic. Is that why you mentioned above is red tape is and how long genereally their process time is to clear the investigation as i am sure they must have done all my investigation before sending me the oath document so if they do the verfication again i hope there will not be a problem as i never ever did anything wrong.

If i apply for ATIP will they not get mad at me that why this person is bothering us or they take some weired action on my file as they can do anything they want. and i feel scared from them. is there something i can do later on in court just in case legally.

please advice me the best route and if anyone has any update on this as spoke to 2 lawyers they said they have not heard something like this before as they told me investigation has to be done before the oath letter not after.
can you guys share as much info as much you have .
you guys are like sunlight to me in my life right now i am so much thankful to you all plz help me

ATIP is completely legal and a lot of people order it to find out the current status of their case. Specially the non-routine case applicants who have issues with their files. Go ahead and order the electronic version and you should be ok. Hopefully before the notes arrive you hear the good news already.

Here is the link for a similar case as you, he got a call day before his oath to not show up and then got a call again on the oath date to go on the scheduled time. Lucky for him!
A little different but a similar case, give it a read and see if it helps you in any ways.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/oath-ceremony-rescheduled-pending-immigration-clearance-edmonton-office-t346842.0.html

 

[Bigudi]

What is "red tape"?

 

[Ram007]

thanks alot for the info i got my PR in 2011 when i came as landed immigrant as my wife she sponsored me and later on after few 4 months we got separated and after 1 year separtion i got my divorce done and we both are moved on in life and never look back as she is the 1 who sponsored me .

 

[sjakub]

What is "red tape"?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22red+tape%22

 

[Msafiri]

thanks alot for the info i got my PR in 2011 when i came as landed immigrant as my wife she sponsored me and later on after few 4 months we got separated and after 1 year separtion i got my divorce done and we both are moved on in life and never look back as she is the 1 who sponsored me .

Sometimes there is a belated 'investigation' on PR acquisition by alleged marriage fraud/misrepresentation. Certainly a 4 month marriage is very short term but duration on its own isn't always a definitive pointer to a fraud issue. Are you on speaking terms with your ex-spouse? Could she have reported you to CIC? Was this a first and only marriage for you at the time? It seems to me very late in the day to chase after this if that's the case. It also could be something as minor as expired background checks or a late concern about declared residency days - how many physical presence days did you apply with? Only ATIP process gives you the chance to see your GCMS notes and if these are not redacted identify what the issue is.

 

[Ram007]

Hi Msafiri i m very thankfull to you for your time also & other people of this forum as you have asked about my past marriage i am not in contact with her anymore and she did reported to cic by email in jan 2012 regarding we got seprated and all but they never contacted me and i am still leaving in the calgary since begining and i have not done any marriage fraud she threatend me that she will kill her self if i wont leave the house then i have to go me out and in 15 days she start living with other person. i filled my citizenship after 1100 days or more and i did not get married after that and i even sponsored my mother for super visa & now recently my sister for visitor visa i did not have any issue with immigration even my citizenship file also went so fast & everything done so smoothly never had any issue dnt know how come just 1 week before they called me for not to come and told me all this and have not given any infor in written all verbal or telephonic information i applied for ATIP today i am worried now more that by appling ATIP wont create any issue for me that they take any negitive action on my file as per last conversation with cic customer care person conversation he assured me that wait patiencly and its a normal internal verification process as they have not recieved report of 1 of the investigation agency then soon we will be contacting you as i have only PR card with me which is valid till next year and now its look like i have to apply renewal of that hope it will get renewed without any issue. please let me know if any one in the GP can help me to get some positive info about this. god bless you all guys you all are really doing good job.

 

[Bigudi]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22red+tape%22

Applying cold water on my burn.
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[Bigudi]

i never did anything wrong in my life here in canada it looks like some1 who jealus from me in my fds or eniemies thay have send some kind of fake complaint to cic.

Hello Ram007,
I am just curious and it is absolutely none of my business, so if you want you can just tell to go take care of my own life, but:

1) You repeated that you never did anything wrong in Canada. Do you think you ever did anything wrong outside of Canada bad enough to flag your process?

2) Why would a friend do such a terrible thing to you? These are not the kind of friends I would like to have.

3) Do you really have "enemies" to the level of being attacked in your citizenship process?

As I said, none of my business. Just curious.