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Girlfriend might get refused for lack of funds and/or vague itinerary ?

Oswin-Pond

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Hello!

I'm trying to get my girlfriend from Mexico to come visit me for 2 weeks.

We have completed all the form

For "purpose of visit" we simply wrote "I will be visiting my boyfriend and i will stay at his apartment from april 14th to april 28th " (but we did not provide any specific flights)
We provided bank statements from my bank account as she earns no money, I myself just have about 1.5k on the bank account but all we're doing is staying home and eating pasta. "My boyfriend has the money and pays for the whole trip ".

We also provided pics of us together in Mexico to show proof of relationship, as well as a screenshot of our cheesy conversations. She entered her parents infos, her national ID card as well as her university where she's currently studying. But all we did was listing the university and program she was doing, not provided any document as proof.


After reading about it online, we realize we might be light on proof of ties to her home country and light on the itinerary purposes. I did not realize when making the visa it needed that much explanations since the website is very vague about it. April 14th is coming soon, she already gave her biometrics. I'm wondering if adding maybe an explanation document through the webform with proof she's REALLY attending her college and maybe describing in detail what we plan to do (mainly just staying home lol) is worth it ? Or would that delay the whole thing.
 

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Hello!

I'm trying to get my girlfriend from Mexico to come visit me for 2 weeks.

We have completed all the form

For "purpose of visit" we simply wrote "I will be visiting my boyfriend and i will stay at his apartment from april 14th to april 28th " (but we did not provide any specific flights)
We provided bank statements from my bank account as she earns no money, I myself just have about 1.5k on the bank account but all we're doing is staying home and eating pasta. "My boyfriend has the money and pays for the whole trip ".

We also provided pics of us together in Mexico to show proof of relationship, as well as a screenshot of our cheesy conversations. She entered her parents infos, her national ID card as well as her university where she's currently studying. But all we did was listing the university and program she was doing, not provided any document as proof.


After reading about it online, we realize we might be light on proof of ties to her home country and light on the itinerary purposes. I did not realize when making the visa it needed that much explanations since the website is very vague about it. April 14th is coming soon, she already gave her biometrics. I'm wondering if adding maybe an explanation document through the webform with proof she's REALLY attending her college and maybe describing in detail what we plan to do (mainly just staying home lol) is worth it ? Or would that delay the whole thing.
Your girlfriend also need an airline itinerary which you easily get from the internet and day-to-day itinerary listing what you do while in Canada.
 

Oswin-Pond

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Your girlfriend also need an airline itinerary which you easily get from the internet and day-to-day itinerary listing what you do while in Canada.
I guess if she gets refused I'll add that thanks. The itinerary would be "staying home for 2 weeks" though lol, not sure if that would reassure them, Maybe we can bullshit some vacation outside my town.
 

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Hello!

I'm trying to get my girlfriend from Mexico to come visit me for 2 weeks.

We have completed all the form

For "purpose of visit" we simply wrote "I will be visiting my boyfriend and i will stay at his apartment from april 14th to april 28th " (but we did not provide any specific flights)
We provided bank statements from my bank account as she earns no money, I myself just have about 1.5k on the bank account but all we're doing is staying home and eating pasta. "My boyfriend has the money and pays for the whole trip ".

We also provided pics of us together in Mexico to show proof of relationship, as well as a screenshot of our cheesy conversations. She entered her parents infos, her national ID card as well as her university where she's currently studying. But all we did was listing the university and program she was doing, not provided any document as proof.


After reading about it online, we realize we might be light on proof of ties to her home country and light on the itinerary purposes. I did not realize when making the visa it needed that much explanations since the website is very vague about it. April 14th is coming soon, she already gave her biometrics. I'm wondering if adding maybe an explanation document through the webform with proof she's REALLY attending her college and maybe describing in detail what we plan to do (mainly just staying home lol) is worth it ? Or would that delay the whole thing.
With this kind of profile there's usually a very high chance of refusal.

The explanation letter likely won't be of any help without actual evidence. Can she provide proof of enrollment from her school and proof she has paid tuition fees for this semester? Even with that, will likely be difficult to be approved.

Good luck.
 
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Oswin-Pond

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With this kind of profile there's usually a very high chance of refusal.

The explanation letter likely won't be of any help without actual evidence. Can she provide proof of enrollment from her school and proof she has paid tuition fees for this semester? Even with that, will likely be difficult to be approved.

Good luck.
Thanks for answering, man that's depressing. All we want to do is spending a couple weeks together. I guess the best bet is to wait for refusal then re-apply with the proof of enrollment and tuition fees (she told me she could provide these)

What if I send her money on her bank account then she can prove she has the money herself ?
 

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Thanks for answering, man that's depressing. All we want to do is spending a couple weeks together. I guess the best bet is to wait for refusal then re-apply with the proof of enrollment and tuition fees (she told me she could provide these)

What if I send her money on her bank account then she can prove she has the money herself ?
Sending money to her isn't really a very good idea. IRCC will expect her to explain where those funds came from if she isn't working and she will then have to let them know that you just gave her money. This really doesn't fix anything. Plus, it sounds like your savings are very low that you could potentially transfer to her. IRCC generally wants to see that applicants have at least in the neighborhood of $10k. Anyway, not much you can do but wait for a result. If she is refused and you reapply, focus more on her ties to her home country and less on your relationship. If the application is largely evidence of your relationship this can often make IRCC concerned the applicant has plans to remain in Canada long term.
 
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Sending money to her isn't really a very good idea. IRCC will expect her to explain where those funds came from if she isn't working and she will then have to let them know that you just gave her money. This really doesn't fix anything. Plus, it sounds like your savings are very low that you could potentially transfer to her. IRCC generally wants to see that applicants have at least in the neighborhood of $10k. Anyway, not much you can do but wait for a result. If she is refused and you reapply, focus more on her ties to her home country and less on your relationship. If the application is largely evidence of your relationship this can often make IRCC concerned the applicant has plans to remain in Canada long term.
Okay thank you. There's no way I can get 10k, crazy they're asking so much for just 2 weeks... But I can ask for some friend to lend me money to beef up the account if needed. And yeah we'll provide a crazy amount of proof for her home country ties next time thanks.
 

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Okay thank you. There's no way I can get 10k, crazy they're asking so much for just 2 weeks... But I can ask for some friend to lend me money to beef up the account if needed. And yeah we'll provide a crazy amount of proof for her home country ties next time thanks.
It's not that they are expecting some to spend $10k on a two week trip. It's more around savings being evidence of ties and also showing the applicant has enough money to take the trip without this using all or most of their savings.

In terms of ties to the home country, think qualify first. So for example, showing her parents' property ownership has zero value and should not be included. This is not a tie for her. Her parents aren't a tie either. What you want to show is evidence that truly shows her ties. This would be evidence that she is attending school, evidence she is working if she is, etc. It is not recommended to go crazy with things that aren't considered ties by IRCC. Be selective.
 

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It's not that they are expecting some to spend $10k on a two week trip. It's more around savings being evidence of ties and also showing the applicant has enough money to take the trip without this using all or most of their savings.

In terms of ties to the home country, think qualify first. So for example, showing her parents' property ownership has zero value and should not be included. This is not a tie for her. Her parents aren't a tie either. What you want to show is evidence that truly shows her ties. This would be evidence that she is attending school, evidence she is working if she is, etc. It is not recommended to go crazy with things that aren't considered ties by IRCC. Be selective.
What if I just sponsor her for Permanent Residence ? Would be hilarious if they accept that but not visitor, but that could work we meet the criterias according to their website.
 

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What if I just sponsor her for Permanent Residence ? Would be hilarious if they accept that but not visitor, but that could work we meet the criterias according to their website.
I'm not sure I would say it's hilarious. It's entirely possible for PR sponsorship to be approved and a TRV to be refused. One application is a visitor visa that is based on proof of ties and showing someone has no plans on remaining in Canada long term. The other is around showing a genuine relationship. It's apples and oranges.

Note that you would either need to be married or common law to sponsor her.
 

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I'm not sure I would say it's hilarious. It's entirely possible for PR sponsorship to be approved and a TRV to be refused. One application is a visitor visa that is based on proof of ties and showing someone has no plans on remaining in Canada long term. The other is around showing a genuine relationship. It's apples and oranges.

Note that you would either need to be married or common law to sponsor her.

I meant the situation would be hilarious because I'd essentially give her PR just so she can visit me a few weeks haha. We have no intention in staying in Canada in the long run. I agree it makes sense for them to accept one or the other. Getting married for it would be okay. Thanks for the help if visitor keep getting refused I'll propose that to her.
 

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I meant the situation would be hilarious because I'd essentially give her PR just so she can visit me a few weeks haha. We have no intention in staying in Canada in the long run. I agree it makes sense for them to accept one or the other. Getting married for it would be okay. Thanks for the help if visitor keep getting refused I'll propose that to her.
I think you would probably not find it so hilarious given the extensive paperwork and fees involved, as well as the approx 12 month processing time. But maybe that is just me...

Having said that, you can certainly go that way.
 

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I think you would probably not find it so hilarious given the extensive paperwork and fees involved, as well as the approx 12 month processing time. But maybe that is just me...

Having said that, you can certainly go that way.
I don't tend to get dragged down by paperwork or finances. I'd still find it funny to get a PR for a few weeks of visit per year. I'd 100% be willing to do it for her. Thanks!
 

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I don't tend to get dragged down by paperwork or finances. I'd still find it funny to get a PR for a few weeks of visit per year. I'd 100% be willing to do it for her. Thanks!
Fair enough. If you decide to go the sponsorship route, be aware that your current level of savings is not sufficient to cover the fees plus other expenses such as medical and PCCs.

Good luck with the TRV application.
 

Oswin-Pond

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Fair enough. If you decide to go the sponsorship route, be aware that your current level of savings is not sufficient to cover the fees plus other expenses such as medical and PCCs.

Good luck with the TRV application.
Yeah it wouldn't be for now anyway. But I'm about to start a new job that pays 1000$ more per month so this shouldn't be a problem in the long run. Thanks for all the help really! I hope we can find a way either with TRV or with Visitor.