Getting married in canada as a tourist visa

[Fvp09]

Hi i need you advice please,

Me and my boyfriend are living here in uae for 3 years while his paper in on process for permanent residency in canada together with her mother(his sponsor under family category), his mother is living in alberta. And now And the embassy/cic will issue his visa and askin him to submit his original passport in the nearest VAC and they said that this will not take too much time for this to be complete.
I hope you understand me that We are not a fan of LDR relationships. And i read/researched that i have 2 options.

1.) Apply for a visit visa to canada when he is already there, then get married there and apply for my permanent residence. (by this option is really what i want but i heard that they will immidiately reject my application since i am visiting my boyfriend, but for the money in bank account will not be a big issue, since we have business here in uae, and 2ndly i dont know if this is possible to get married in canada and process permanent residency since i am on tourist visa)

2.) wait for his PR card we both go to philippines, get married, he will come back to canada , i will come back to uae to process my paper. (And in this option, i heard that it will take time, since he still needs a work atleast a year in order to prove that he can support me financiallly, and then another 1 year again for the processing of paper) but i told you, we are not a fan of LdR.


Please help me what to do.
Thank you!

 

[scylla]

Hi i need you advice please,

Me and my boyfriend are living here in uae for 3 years while his paper in on process for permanent residency in canada together with her mother(his sponsor under family category), his mother is living in alberta. And now And the embassy/cic will issue his visa and askin him to submit his original passport in the nearest VAC and they said that this will not take too much time for this to be complete.
I hope you understand me that We are not a fan of LDR relationships. And i read/researched that i have 2 options.

1.) Apply for a visit visa to canada when he is already there, then get married there and apply for my permanent residence. (by this option is really what i want but i heard that they will immidiately reject my application since i am visiting my boyfriend, but for the money in bank account will not be a big issue, since we have business here in uae, and 2ndly i dont know if this is possible to get married in canada and process permanent residency since i am on tourist visa)

2.) wait for his PR card we both go to philippines, get married, he will come back to canada , i will come back to uae to process my paper. (And in this option, i heard that it will take time, since he still needs a work atleast a year in order to prove that he can support me financiallly, and then another 1 year again for the processing of paper) but i told you, we are not a fan of LdR.


Please help me what to do.
Thank you!

Have you lived together for three years - or have you at least lived together for one year straight?

When you say that he is being sponsored by his mother, do you mean that he is a dependent in her PR application or something else?

 

[Fvp09]

Have you lived together for three years - or have you at least lived together for one year straight?

When you say that he is being sponsored by his mother, do you mean that he is a dependent in her PR application or something else?

Hi, 1st, we are together for 6 years road to 7years this november, and we are living together for 6 years. 3 years from philippines and 3 years here in uae.

Yes he is under dependent. Because that time they started processing it when he is still 19 years old and he is 25 now.

 

[scylla]

Hi, 1st, we are together for 6 years road to 7years this november, and we are living together for 6 years. 3 years from philippines and 3 years here in uae.

Yes he is under dependent. Because that time they started processing it when he is still 19 years old and he is 25 now.

OK - then you have a few problems.

The first problem is that your boyfriend is no longer a dependent and he cannot get PR through his mother's application. To remain as her dependent, he cannot get married and cannot enter into a common law relationship until AFTER he lands and becomes a PR (you are classified as common law by CIC once you have lived together for at least one full year). Since the two of you are in a common law relationship, he not longer meets the requirements to be included in his mother's application as a dependent. If he lies and continues to have himself included in her application, he will be engaging in immigration fraud (which is a crime). This means that at any point in the future if CIC finds out about this fraud, they could revoke his PR status or even citizenship.

Also, if he goes ahead with the fraud and obtains PR status through his mother, it will be impossible for him to ever sponsor you - even once you are married. If he tries, it will be very clear through background / security checks that you were common law before he became a PR. This will result in your sponsorship application being refused and there's a good chance CIC will also move to revoke his PR status.

What your boyfriend should do is remove himself from his mother's application. Again, he no longer meets the requirement to be included as a dependent. The two of you should then work to qualify for PR as a couple through an economic immigration stream like Express Entry.

 

[Fvp09]

OK - then you have a few problems.

The first problem is that your boyfriend is no longer a dependent and he cannot get PR through his mother's application. To remain as her dependent, he cannot get married and cannot enter into a common law relationship until AFTER he lands and becomes a PR (you are classified as common law by CIC once you have lived together for at least one full year). Since the two of you are in a common law relationship, he not longer meets the requirements to be included in his mother's application as a dependent. If he lies and continues to have himself included in her application, he will be engaging in immigration fraud (which is a crime). This means that at any point in the future if CIC finds out about this fraud, they could revoke his PR status or even citizenship.

Also, if he goes ahead with the fraud and obtains PR status through his mother, it will be impossible for him to ever sponsor you - even once you are married. If he tries, it will be very clear through background / security checks that you were common law before he became a PR. This will result in your sponsorship application being refused and there's a good chance CIC will also move to revoke his PR status.

What your boyfriend should do is remove himself from his mother's application. Again, he no longer meets the requirement to be included as a dependent. The two of you should then work to qualify for PR as a couple through an economic immigration stream like Express Entry.

I don’t understand, even he have the visa stamped in his passport they will revoke his PR? And we are not yet married, but we are planning to get married after he go to canada and after he got his PR card.

 

[scylla]

I don’t understand, even he have the visa stamped in his passport they will revoke his PR? And we are not yet married, but we are planning to get married after he go to canada and after he got his PR card.

The issue is that he no longer meets the requirements to be a dependent in his mother's application. To be classified as a dependent, he must remain unmarried and he cannot enter into a common law relationship. However he IS in a common law relationship since he has been living with you for six year. It doesn't matter if he already has a visa stamp. Again, he no longer meets the requirements to receive PR through his mother. He should asked to be dropped from her PR application. If he does not do this and he goes ahead and gets PR through his mother - then he is committing fraud. Yes - this means CIC could revoke his status in Canada at any time in the future. It also means he will never be able to sponsor you for PR (even if you get married).

Once again, the ONLY legal option is for your boyfriend to inform CIC that he is no longer a dependent in his mother's application - and for the two of you to qualify for PR on your own through an economic immigration program like Express Entry. If you do anything other than this, you are going to have massive problems and will be engaging in immigration fraud.

 

[Fvp09]

The issue is that he no longer meets the requirements to be a dependent in his mother's application. To be classified as a dependent, he must remain unmarried and he cannot enter into a common law relationship. However he IS in a common law relationship since he has been living with you for six year. It doesn't matter if he already has a visa stamp. Again, he no longer meets the requirements to receive PR through his mother. He should asked to be dropped from her PR application. If he does not do this and he goes ahead and gets PR through his mother - then he is committing fraud. Yes - this means CIC could revoke his status in Canada at any time in the future. It also means he will never be able to sponsor you for PR (even if you get married).

Once again, the ONLY legal option is for your boyfriend to inform CIC that he is no longer a dependent in his mother's application - and for the two of you to qualify for PR on your own through an economic immigration program like Express Entry. If you do anything other than this, you are going to have massive problems and will be engaging in immigration fraud.

Im sorry, what if we live together in the past in the philippines and we didnt live here together in uae since it is not allowed here to stay together if not married.

 

[scylla]

Im sorry, what if we live together in the past in the philippines and we didnt live here together in uae since it is not allowed here to stay together if not married.

This doesn't change anything. You lived together for more than a year and became common law. Your boyfriend is no longer entitled to obtain PR as part of his mother's application. He no longer meets the criteria to be classified as a dependent.

 

[Fvp09]

This doesn't change anything. You lived together for more than a year and became common law. Your boyfriend is no longer entitled to obtain PR as part of his mother's application. He no longer meets the criteria to be classified as a dependent.

How will the immigration will identify that we are under common law partners?

 

[scylla]

How will the immigration will identify that we are under common law partners?

You'll have to provide your addresses for the last decade as part of the application. This information will be verified through employment records, police checks and background checks. Based on your address history, CIC will figure out that you've lived together for more than a year before he became a PR.

It sounds to me like you want to move ahead as planned - ignoring the fact this is fraud. I won't be posting further.

 

[Fvp09]

You'll have to provide your addresses for the last decade as part of the application. This information will be verified through employment records, police checks and background checks. Based on your address history, CIC will figure out that you've lived together for more than a year before he became a PR.

It sounds to me like you want to move ahead as planned - ignoring the fact this is fraud. I won't be posting further.

Thank you very much i will inform him about this so it will not result for any further problems.

 

[zardoz]

Thank you very much i will inform him about this so it will not result for any further problems.

His mother is also committing immigration fraud if she keeps him as an ineligible "dependent". She could have her own application denied or revoked for serious misrepresentation, especially as it's deliberate. She already knows that you two are "common-law". Be warned. Pass this warning on to her.

 

[vensak]

let me explain simply

lets say he will get trough ok?
So far so good.
He will come to Canada, activates his PR.
ok again (since until that point you are not visible)
And then he tries to sponsor you.
If he goes for common law sponsorship, that would right away reveal that he lied on his PR application.

If he goes for marriage, then at the start all would look good.

But they will ask among other things
your address you lived in past 10 years. His addresses as well.
They will ask details about your relationship (and yes if they feel so they can try to approach your previous landlords for example).
But all that is done to see if the marriage is genuine.

The problem is that during that there is really high chance that they will discover the truth (that you live together for some time already).
Now what an office can do, they can check his status including how he immigrated.

So that is where the problem will be.
And to avoid it you would have to lie and lie again. But problem of all of that is that in the middle of all those lies you can be caught off guard easily.
Hence the risks to discover are big.