GCMS notes help/advise from seniors

[elinorfdn]

Hi Seniors,

Here is my timeline:
application received at the end of July, 2014
haven't heard anything so far (no MR, no additional doc request, nothing...)
So I ordered GCMS notes a month ago and here is what I've got.

APPLICATION:XXX REGULATION:CEC-2013 I have analyzed this application based upon the documents submitted by the application and the information contained in the file and make the following recommendation. ACTION ITEMS: GENERAL RESULTS: MEDICAL NOT STARTED FOR ALL APPLICANTS. FOSS/GCMS check: - No adverse info. Principal applicant currently holds valid status in Canada. CIVIL STATUS: PA never married – No Spouse or Common –Law declared –PA Copy of passport on File: Yes. WORK EXPERIENCE: CEC qualifying period is: from 16JUN2011 to 15JUN2014 Dates of authorized work experience – within “Qualifying Period' – in a skill level 0, A or B occupation: 04SEPT2012 TO 04SEPT2015 Category of work permit: PGWP post-secondary studies in Canada: University According to schedule 8: Work Experience1: 04FEB2013 TO 10FEB2014, NOC: 4163 selected. Full time Research Analyst. Employment letter dated 04JUN2014 confirms date of employment, position title and a salary of $47K PER ANNUM A T4 from 2013 shows reported earnings of $43K. A NOA from 2013 shows reported earnings of $43K. There appears to be insufficient evidence to confirm work experience in stated NOC. Web-based search conducted – Online information verified. ADDITIONAL NOTES: Based on documents submitted, it appears that PA has acquired 1 year work experience and appears to meet employment requirements. MEDICAL NOT STARTED FOR ALL APPLICANTS RECOMMENDATION: REVIEW REQUIRED BY OFFICER

My understanding of the concerns that might be raised by the first reviewer (apparently the case has been transferred to the second reviewer):
1. qualifying work experience is just over a year (04FEB2013 TO 10FEB2014) and 2013 T4 doesn't exactly match my annal salary.
2. job duties listed in the employment letter might be too generic (?).
3. I had another job right after the one listed above. But neither did it has the same NOC code nor did it last for a year. But I guess it didn't really count into the qualifying work experience because I don't see the reviewer mentioned it.

Here is what I'm planning to do:
1. send 2014 T4s of both old and new jobs in 2014, since I have both anyway.
2. send a revised employment letter with more details about my job duties.
3. send a revised employment letter of my second job to update the employment date (I left the firm last year). I guess I have to do it because it's reflected in my T4 2014.

Questions:
1. should I send additional doc without request from CIC or just wait and do nothing?
1. If it's better to send the doc, is there anything else that I should send?
2. where should I Email the doc?

Thanks a lot!

 

[Amisnic]

The issue the VO has is only with the NOC and duties.
What NOC did you use?
What were the duties outlined in your employment letter (i.e. qualifying employment)

Send these and I can assist.

No need (and strongly advised) to send anything else.

It is very likely that you have used an inappropriate NOC.

Hi Seniors,

Here is my timeline:
application received at the end of July, 2014
haven't heard anything so far (no MR, no additional doc request, nothing...)
So I ordered GCMS notes a month ago and here is what I've got.

APPLICATION:XXX REGULATION:CEC-2013 I have analyzed this application based upon the documents submitted by the application and the information contained in the file and make the following recommendation. ACTION ITEMS: GENERAL RESULTS: MEDICAL NOT STARTED FOR ALL APPLICANTS. FOSS/GCMS check: - No adverse info. Principal applicant currently holds valid status in Canada. CIVIL STATUS: PA never married – No Spouse or Common –Law declared –PA Copy of passport on File: Yes. WORK EXPERIENCE: CEC qualifying period is: from 16JUN2011 to 15JUN2014 Dates of authorized work experience – within “Qualifying Period' – in a skill level 0, A or B occupation: 04SEPT2012 TO 04SEPT2015 Category of work permit: PGWP post-secondary studies in Canada: University According to schedule 8: Work Experience1: 04FEB2013 TO 10FEB2014, NOC: xxx selected. Employment letter dated 04JUN2014 confirms date of employment, position title and a salary of $47K PER ANNUM A T4 from 2013 shows reported earnings of $43K. A NOA from 2013 shows reported earnings of $43K. There appears to be insufficient evidence to confirm work experience in stated NOC. Web-based search conducted – Online information verified. ADDITIONAL NOTES: Based on documents submitted, it appears that PA has acquired 1 year work experience and appears to meet employment requirements. MEDICAL NOT STARTED FOR ALL APPLICANTS RECOMMENDATION: REVIEW REQUIRED BY OFFICER

My understanding of the concerns that might be raised by the first reviewer (apparently the case has been transferred to the second reviewer):
1. qualifying work experience is just over a year (04FEB2013 TO 10FEB2014) and 2013 T4 doesn't exactly match my annal salary.
2. job duties listed in the employment letter might be too generic (?).
3. I had another job right after the one listed above. But neither did it has the same NOC code nor did it last for a year. But I guess it didn't really count into the qualifying work experience because I don't see the reviewer mentioned it.

Here is what I'm planning to do:
1. send 2014 T4s of both old and new jobs in 2014, since I have both anyway.
2. send a revised employment letter with more details about my job duties.
3. send a revised employment letter of my second job to update the employment date (I left the firm last year). I guess I have to do it because it's reflected in my T4 2014.

Questions:
1. should I send additional doc without request from CIC or just wait and do nothing?
1. If it's better to send the doc, is there anything else that I should send?
2. where should I Email the doc?

Thanks a lot!

 

[elinorfdn]

Hi guys, I added my NOC (4163) code and job title. I'm a research analyst at a market research firm.

 

[Amisnic]

Mate, it will help us if we knew what duties you were performing at work - i.e what is in your LOE?

Hi guys, I added my NOC (4163) code and job title. I'm a research analyst at a market research firm.

 

[Amisnic]

This is NOC 4163:

4163 - Business development officers and marketing researchers and consultants

Business development officers and marketing researchers and consultants conduct research, formulate policies and manage programs to stimulate industrial and commercial business investment or tourism in urban and rural areas, or to promote commercial or industrial products and services. They are employed by government departments, international organizations, marketing firms and business associations or may be self-employed.

Illustrative example(s)
•business development officer
•community economic development consultant
•economic development officer
•industrial development officer
•market researcher
•marketing analyst
•marketing consultant - market research
•regional development analyst
•tourism development officer
•tourism industry consultant


Main duties

Business development officers and marketing researchers and consultants perform some or all of the following duties:
•Develop policies and administer programs to promote industrial and commercial business investment in urban and rural areas
•Design market research questionnaires
•Conduct social or economic surveys on local, regional or national areas to assess development potential and future trends
•Plan development projects and co-ordinate activities with representatives of a wide variety of industrial and commercial enterprises, community and business associations and government agencies
•Assess business opportunities and develop strategies to attract venture capital
•Respond to enquiries from members of the business community and general public concerning development opportunities
•Review and evaluate commercial or industrial development proposals and provide advice on procedures and requirements for government approval
•Conduct surveys and analyze data on the buying habits and preferences of wholesale or retail consumers
•Evaluate customer service and store environments
•Conduct comparative research on marketing strategies for industrial and commercial products
•Develop social and economic profiles of urban and rural areas to encourage industrial and commercial investment and development.
•Prepare reports, research papers, educational texts or articles
•Plan and develop E-commerce strategies
•Provide consultation on planning and starting of new businesses.


Employment requirements
•A bachelor's degree in economics, commerce, business administration or public administration is required.
•Certification as a certified economic developer (Ec.D.) may be required.


Additional information
•Progression to managerial positions is possible with experience.

These role can command a salary between approx. $35k to in excess of $100k so your salary should be ok (see: http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/LMI_report_area.do?reportOption=wage&PROVINCE_ID=35&GEOAREA_CD=27236&selectLocation=Continue)

1. conducted market research surveys on website satisfaction, product satisfaction, consumer behavior, and user experience
2. assisted to design market research questionnaire
3. used statistical analysis software to analyze market research data and to look at driver of consumer satisfaction
4. prepared reports to assess market research goals and to provide marketing/strategic recommendation

 

[Amisnic]

I think this should be ok, perhaps you can add more detail by sending them a letter via email - i.e. the activities that you have carried out at work. What the VOs appear to have a problem with is when the NOC says "did something" and applicants state that they "assisted doing something". The reality of today's workplaces are that its all a team effort and even people who are in-charge and are managers are always "assisting" while doing.

So applicants should take heed and say that they "did" something rather than "assisted doing something" in these scenarios. Of course there will be roles which is truly an "assisting" role like administrative assistant, etc. In these cases one has to state that they assisted others, etc.

1. conducted market research surveys on website satisfaction, product satisfaction, consumer behavior, and user experience
2. assisted to design market research questionnaire
3. used statistical analysis software to analyze market research data and to look at driver of consumer satisfaction
4. prepared reports to assess market research goals and to provide marketing/strategic recommendation

 

[elinorfdn]

Thanks mate

I think this should be ok, perhaps you can add more detail by sending them a letter via email - i.e. the activities that you have carried out at work. What the VOs appear to have a problem with is when the NOC says "did something" and applicants state that they "assisted doing something". The reality of today's workplaces are that its all a team effort and even people who are in-charge and are managers are always "assisting" while doing.

So applicants should take heed and say that they "did" something rather than "assisted doing something" in these scenarios. Of course there will be roles which is truly an "assisting" role like administrative assistant, etc. In these cases one has to state that they assisted others, etc.

 

[elinorfdn]

Hi Amisnic, do I email to CPC-CTD-Ottawa @ cic.gc.ca?

 

[Amisnic]

Yes, you can send me the letter for review before you send it if you wish

Hi Amisnic, do I email to CPC-CTD-Ottawa @ cic.gc.ca?