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striving

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Gone are the days when you could benefit from Canada and the Gulf at the same time.

Bill C-24, introduced in February by Chris Alexander (pictured above), the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, also increases fines for residency fraud—where immigrants falsely claim to be residing in Canada to retain their status and qualify for citizenship—to C$100,000 from C$1,000. Those seeking citizenship also have to file Canadian income tax, and the law has tripled the cost of applying for citizenship to $300.

For Details : http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20140930219760
 

torontosm

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striving said:
Gone are the days when you could benefit from Canada and the Gulf at the same time.
This was never legal to begin with. The only thing that has changed is that penalties have become more severe.
 

future_canadian

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striving said:
Gone are the days when you could benefit from Canada and the Gulf at the same time.

Bill C-24, introduced in February by Chris Alexander (pictured above), the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, also increases fines for residency fraud—where immigrants falsely claim to be residing in Canada to retain their status and qualify for citizenship—to C$100,000 from C$1,000. Those seeking citizenship also have to file Canadian income tax, and the law has tripled the cost of applying for citizenship to $300.

For Details : http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20140930219760
Good. Keep the fraudsters out.
 

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striving said:
Gone are the days when you could benefit from Canada and the Gulf at the same time.

Bill C-24, introduced in February by Chris Alexander (pictured above), the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, also increases fines for residency fraud—where immigrants falsely claim to be residing in Canada to retain their status and qualify for citizenship—to C$100,000 from C$1,000. Those seeking citizenship also have to file Canadian income tax, and the law has tripled the cost of applying for citizenship to $300.

For Details : http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20140930219760
- Citizenship is not a licence the government can revoke for misbehavior

- Citizenship stripping is not commonplace in other countries. Bill C-24 makes Canada an outlier among western states

- It is the role of the criminal justice system, not elected officials, to punish people for wrongdoing

- The new law does not just target criminal wrongdoers; it poses a serious threat to the rights of all Canadians

- Citizenship is not a privilege; it is an interest fundamental to full membership in Canadian society

- The new law greatly reduces due-process rights, replacing fair judicial process with Ministerial discretion

- The new law diminishes the ties non-permanent residents have established in Canada

- The new law does not adequately ensure citizens maintain strong ties to Canada

- The new law does not strengthen or protect the value of Canadian citizenship; it diminishes it
 

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Abu Ahmed said:
- Citizenship is not a licence the government can revoke for misbehavior
Agree but most of this is about not granting citizenship to people who aren't serious about being Canadians in the first place.
- Citizenship stripping is not commonplace in other countries. Bill C-24 makes Canada an outlier among western states
Agree, that makes me uncomfortable.
- It is the role of the criminal justice system, not elected officials, to punish people for wrongdoing
Certain items come under the Queen's Prerogative in countries where she is still the head of state.
- The new law does not just target criminal wrongdoers; it poses a serious threat to the rights of all Canadians
Theoretically I agree, practically I don't think so.
- Citizenship is not a privilege; it is an interest fundamental to full membership in Canadian society
Agree but those won want it should obtain it ethically and legally.
- The new law greatly reduces due-process rights, replacing fair judicial process with Ministerial discretion
Again, the Queen's Prerogative comes into play a bit.
- The new law diminishes the ties non-permanent residents have established in Canada
Not sure what you mean.
- The new law does not adequately ensure citizens maintain strong ties to Canada
Maybe not but it ensures that those who don't have strong ties to Canada do not become citizens.
- The new law does not strengthen or protect the value of Canadian citizenship; it diminishes it
Not sure if this is true, matter of opinion.
 

on-hold

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Abu Ahmed said:
- Citizenship is not a licence the government can revoke for misbehavior

- Citizenship stripping is not commonplace in other countries. Bill C-24 makes Canada an outlier among western states

- It is the role of the criminal justice system, not elected officials, to punish people for wrongdoing

- The new law does not just target criminal wrongdoers; it poses a serious threat to the rights of all Canadians

- Citizenship is not a privilege; it is an interest fundamental to full membership in Canadian society

- The new law greatly reduces due-process rights, replacing fair judicial process with Ministerial discretion

- The new law diminishes the ties non-permanent residents have established in Canada

- The new law does not adequately ensure citizens maintain strong ties to Canada

- The new law does not strengthen or protect the value of Canadian citizenship; it diminishes it
I agree with all of these -- but as torontosm points out, none of them apply to people who obtain their citizenship by fraud. It's always been an accepted procedure that if fraud occurs at any point in the chain of citizenship, from a lie on the initial entry to Canada down to the oath, the citizenship can be revoked. The problems of C-24 are different, and you mention many of them above, but I don't think it has too much to do with actual fraud, which has never been permitted.