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rahul10

Star Member
Oct 19, 2020
134
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My visa has been rejected 2 times (SDS Category) for Humber College Post Graduate Diploma - Global Business Management course (may 2020 intake).

Reason (both times) - I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

I have studied bachelors of business management previously and graduated in August 2019 (77%).
I then worked as a marketing executive management trainee for 7 months (October 2019 to April 2020). I am not doing anything since May 2020 to November 2020. I am 22 years old Indian citizen living in India.

1st Filing was done on 27th January 2020 and got refusal on 2nd February 2020
2nd Filing was done on 27th February 2020 and got refusal on 3rd March 2020

After 2 refusals, I applied for caips notes which stated :

GCMS/CAIPS Notes for 1st Refusal -

Applciation reviewed. Client recieved a Bachelor in Business Management (2019). Client wants to attend Global Business Management at Humber College. On review of all inforamtion uncluding PA's previous employment and educational history, their motivation to pusue studies in Canada at this point does not seem reasonable. Study plan submitted is general and I am not satisfied with client's explanation of career benefits. Chosen program at the college level at such an expense is illogical in light of PA's reported scholarly and/or work history. Considering previous academic education, employment history, personal establishments and ties to home country, I am not satisfied that the applicant would be a bonda fide student in Canada and would depart Canada at the end of the perio authorised for stay. Application refused.

GCMS/CAIPS Notes for 2nd Refusal -

Application, documents submitted and GCMS history reviewed. Previous refusal noted. Applicant wants to attend Humber College Institute of Technology and Advanced Learning for Global Business Management. Considering applicant's extensive education and previous work experience in the same field, I am not satisfied that applicant would not have already achieved the benefits of this program. It is not evident why applicant would study this program at sch great expense considering applicant already possess a higher level of qualification. Client has a Bachelor of Arts with Honours in Business Management. I am not satisfied that this is a reasonable progression of studies, which raises concerns regarding applicant's intended purpose in Canada.
Not satisfied on balance that applicant is a genuine student who would respect terms of authorized stay, nor that S-1 is not facilitate entry to Canada for other unknown reasons. Application refused.

My IELTS is 7.0 (S - 8 , L 8 , W 6.5 , R 6)

I have considered changing my institute and I currently have offer letter from University of New Brunswick MBA program | September 2021 at Fredericton campus.

University of new brunswick MBA does not offer a specialisation but the core modules in a particular field (marketing, finance, HR etc) can be selected in second year and I intend to choose elective modules related to Marketing since it is my area of interest and my latest job was as a junior marketing executive.


Question 1 - How to convince the Visa Officer this time?

Question 2 - How to justify 7/8 months gap? I have a legitimate Marketing executive offer letter from a company, dated 12th October 2020.

Queestion 3 - What additional documents can I attach to demonstrate family ties, home ties? (I am the only child) | (During 2nd attempt of visa filing, I attached Sponsorship affidavit, Father's ITR, Father's Salary Slip, Provident Fund, An employment resumption letter from my previous organisation)
This time, I plan to attach CA Report which states 3 properties under my father's name, available funds, father's annual salary and jewellery.

Question 4 - What is the ideal time for visa filing for September 2021 intake?

Question 5 - I have never travelled out of India so how can I justify my travel history.

I humbly request you to help me out or connect me to someone who can.
 

John601

Star Member
Sep 30, 2020
102
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My visa has been rejected 2 times (SDS Category) for Humber College Post Graduate Diploma - Global Business Management course (may 2020 intake).

Reason (both times) - I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

I have studied bachelors of business management previously and graduated in August 2019 (77%).
I then worked as a marketing executive management trainee for 7 months (October 2019 to April 2020). I am not doing anything since May 2020 to November 2020. I am 22 years old Indian citizen living in India.

1st Filing was done on 27th January 2020 and got refusal on 2nd February 2020
2nd Filing was done on 27th February 2020 and got refusal on 3rd March 2020

After 2 refusals, I applied for caips notes which stated :

GCMS/CAIPS Notes for 1st Refusal -

Applciation reviewed. Client recieved a Bachelor in Business Management (2019). Client wants to attend Global Business Management at Humber College. On review of all inforamtion uncluding PA's previous employment and educational history, their motivation to pusue studies in Canada at this point does not seem reasonable. Study plan submitted is general and I am not satisfied with client's explanation of career benefits. Chosen program at the college level at such an expense is illogical in light of PA's reported scholarly and/or work history. Considering previous academic education, employment history, personal establishments and ties to home country, I am not satisfied that the applicant would be a bonda fide student in Canada and would depart Canada at the end of the perio authorised for stay. Application refused.

GCMS/CAIPS Notes for 2nd Refusal -

Application, documents submitted and GCMS history reviewed. Previous refusal noted. Applicant wants to attend Humber College Institute of Technology and Advanced Learning for Global Business Management. Considering applicant's extensive education and previous work experience in the same field, I am not satisfied that applicant would not have already achieved the benefits of this program. It is not evident why applicant would study this program at sch great expense considering applicant already possess a higher level of qualification. Client has a Bachelor of Arts with Honours in Business Management. I am not satisfied that this is a reasonable progression of studies, which raises concerns regarding applicant's intended purpose in Canada.
Not satisfied on balance that applicant is a genuine student who would respect terms of authorized stay, nor that S-1 is not facilitate entry to Canada for other unknown reasons. Application refused.

My IELTS is 7.0 (S - 8 , L 8 , W 6.5 , R 6)

I have considered changing my institute and I currently have offer letter from University of New Brunswick MBA program | September 2021 at Fredericton campus.

University of new brunswick MBA does not offer a specialisation but the core modules in a particular field (marketing, finance, HR etc) can be selected in second year and I intend to choose elective modules related to Marketing since it is my area of interest and my latest job was as a junior marketing executive.


Question 1 - How to convince the Visa Officer this time?

Question 2 - How to justify 7/8 months gap? I have a legitimate Marketing executive offer letter from a company, dated 12th October 2020.

Queestion 3 - What additional documents can I attach to demonstrate family ties, home ties? (I am the only child) | (During 2nd attempt of visa filing, I attached Sponsorship affidavit, Father's ITR, Father's Salary Slip, Provident Fund, An employment resumption letter from my previous organisation)
This time, I plan to attach CA Report which states 3 properties under my father's name, available funds, father's annual salary and jewellery.

Question 4 - What is the ideal time for visa filing for September 2021 intake?

Question 5 - I have never travelled out of India so how can I justify my travel history.

I humbly request you to help me out or connect me to someone who can.
I think it has something to do with your SOP. VO is right, after doing a bachelor's in a similar field, why would you opt for a diploma to progress in that particular field. I would suggest that a master's program is better. Since you have now chosen an MBA, I think it is a good move. However, I doubt if the college is good enough as a person of age 22 getting into a good MBA program is rare.
Also, justifying your travel history is pretty simple. You could go something like - "I have always wanted to interact with different cultures/ broaden my perspective towards life while learning about business in a global setting. Now you have sufficient savings where you can actually afford to go outside and pursue your dream and earlier you didn't have the means". You can ask me anything in particular if you'd like.
 

Srivishu11

Newbie
Feb 9, 2019
9
1
My visa has been rejected 2 times (SDS Category) for Humber College Post Graduate Diploma - Global Business Management course (may 2020 intake).

Reason (both times) - I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

I have studied bachelors of business management previously and graduated in August 2019 (77%).
I then worked as a marketing executive management trainee for 7 months (October 2019 to April 2020). I am not doing anything since May 2020 to November 2020. I am 22 years old Indian citizen living in India.

1st Filing was done on 27th January 2020 and got refusal on 2nd February 2020
2nd Filing was done on 27th February 2020 and got refusal on 3rd March 2020

After 2 refusals, I applied for caips notes which stated :

GCMS/CAIPS Notes for 1st Refusal -

Applciation reviewed. Client recieved a Bachelor in Business Management (2019). Client wants to attend Global Business Management at Humber College. On review of all inforamtion uncluding PA's previous employment and educational history, their motivation to pusue studies in Canada at this point does not seem reasonable. Study plan submitted is general and I am not satisfied with client's explanation of career benefits. Chosen program at the college level at such an expense is illogical in light of PA's reported scholarly and/or work history. Considering previous academic education, employment history, personal establishments and ties to home country, I am not satisfied that the applicant would be a bonda fide student in Canada and would depart Canada at the end of the perio authorised for stay. Application refused.

GCMS/CAIPS Notes for 2nd Refusal -

Application, documents submitted and GCMS history reviewed. Previous refusal noted. Applicant wants to attend Humber College Institute of Technology and Advanced Learning for Global Business Management. Considering applicant's extensive education and previous work experience in the same field, I am not satisfied that applicant would not have already achieved the benefits of this program. It is not evident why applicant would study this program at sch great expense considering applicant already possess a higher level of qualification. Client has a Bachelor of Arts with Honours in Business Management. I am not satisfied that this is a reasonable progression of studies, which raises concerns regarding applicant's intended purpose in Canada.
Not satisfied on balance that applicant is a genuine student who would respect terms of authorized stay, nor that S-1 is not facilitate entry to Canada for other unknown reasons. Application refused.

My IELTS is 7.0 (S - 8 , L 8 , W 6.5 , R 6)

I have considered changing my institute and I currently have offer letter from University of New Brunswick MBA program | September 2021 at Fredericton campus.

University of new brunswick MBA does not offer a specialisation but the core modules in a particular field (marketing, finance, HR etc) can be selected in second year and I intend to choose elective modules related to Marketing since it is my area of interest and my latest job was as a junior marketing executive.


Question 1 - How to convince the Visa Officer this time?

Question 2 - How to justify 7/8 months gap? I have a legitimate Marketing executive offer letter from a company, dated 12th October 2020.

Queestion 3 - What additional documents can I attach to demonstrate family ties, home ties? (I am the only child) | (During 2nd attempt of visa filing, I attached Sponsorship affidavit, Father's ITR, Father's Salary Slip, Provident Fund, An employment resumption letter from my previous organisation)
This time, I plan to attach CA Report which states 3 properties under my father's name, available funds, father's annual salary and jewellery.

Question 4 - What is the ideal time for visa filing for September 2021 intake?

Question 5 - I have never travelled out of India so how can I justify my travel history.

I humbly request you to help me out or connect me to someone who can.
Bad Luck Rahul.. I agree with John that your SOP might not be strong enough. Any potential immigration plans post your studies isn't approved. That's where your SOP comes into picture.
 

rahul10

Star Member
Oct 19, 2020
134
38
Bad Luck Rahul.. I agree with John that your SOP might not be strong enough. Any potential immigration plans post your studies isn't approved. That's where your SOP comes into picture.
Do you have any suggestions as to how I can rectify this? I'll defiitely draft a strong SOP but may you tell me strong contents which I can emphasise upon?
 

Srivishu11

Newbie
Feb 9, 2019
9
1
This is only my opinion and I am planning to use this for myself too. I have a masters and planning to take up relevant PG Diploma course that complements my work experience.
  • Why this course in the first place: The course although has a lower credential should add value to your profile, your work experience and your education background. For ex: I have MBA in Marketing. This, in my experience was too theoretical and general. The only logical upgrade I can make is take up Phd which will burn a big hole in my pocket. Whereas, a specialization in Digital Media management or Advertising communications will complement my work exp and help me upskill. Focus on Career benefits. You could quote few seniors in your company who have that particular specialization and how they could catapult their career because of the degree.
  • Why study in Canada: Well, there can be no strong reason for this. Specially for someone who has a masters already and looks like a potential immigrant.
    • You could say Indian companies value International degrees which is partly true
    • You have your family back here and intend to get back as they are retired
    • Covid has may be put you out of job or you don't see much potential in your current line of work and that its time for you to upskill
  • Why this college or uni: Your interaction with few past students from that school (if at all, and I recommend you find someone who has been in a similar situation. You should read the school's student success stories. I found many many such students who have had Masters in India and went on to pursue PG Dip courses).
PS: I am still working on a stronger "Why study in Canada" question. Hope my 2 cents helps you.

Good luck!
Cheers
 
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