Express system of PR next year
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It depends upon a lot of factors. But yes it would give preference to people who already have confirmed jobs and would process their PR's much faster.
So for the remaining ones, it might take longer to get through the PR and it is logical too - otherwise it produces masses of people facing yet another and perhaps bigger hardship of finding a decent job.
Lastly, there is only an outline of Express entry available for now. Details will only become visible once it actually commences.
Still it is more like that a lot of people would apply for first stage of process. In which government would evaluate their credentials and job details. Then government would allow the qualified ones out of that system to proceed through further steps. These cases would be processed faster by being given priority over normal files.
So for the remaining ones, it might take longer to get through the PR and it is logical too - otherwise it produces masses of people facing yet another and perhaps bigger hardship of finding a decent job.
Lastly, there is only an outline of Express entry available for now. Details will only become visible once it actually commences.
Still it is more like that a lot of people would apply for first stage of process. In which government would evaluate their credentials and job details. Then government would allow the qualified ones out of that system to proceed through further steps. These cases would be processed faster by being given priority over normal files.
Thank you so much.But I was wondering as my hisband works as a posdoctoral fellow and is on temporary work visa which is valid till January 2016,we can extend it though as the employer is willing.In this case also we have a job offer but it is a renewable contract,under the present system we can apply under CEC but we have to wait as we will only only complete one year in this January.Under express entry also we can apply under CEC but what will be the criteria seems a mystrey.
My understanding is that such cases would be eligible - rather preferred. I myself have a similar situation. Details of it will only be clear once Express entry kicks in.
One year completion is requirement for CEC which is one of the 4 eligible programs that would be used by express entry.
One year completion is requirement for CEC which is one of the 4 eligible programs that would be used by express entry.
Fkl, you have been in Canada for one and half year, I guess. I am curious to find out why did you not apply for PR under FSW category till now?fkl said:
@Intocanada - I guess you were referring to CEC (because that requires a year of experience in Canada rather than FSW which one can apply in home country.
First thing is no, i still have time to complete even one year. My visa process took unusually long for a variety of reasons. Then i had a relatively longer notice period and needed time to move.
So i will start considering this early next year i.e. about the same time as when express entry initiates.
The other issue for me is that my job and residence are based in Montreal, Quebec and most of federal programs such as CEC or FSW require showing intent of living outside of Quebec. My head office is in Gatineau so i can technically move to Ottawa and still work in Gatineau. However, proving this intent would be some what tricky. So let's see when the time comes.
Lastly, i have not considered applying for Quebec based PR because
a) I do not know french and developing the required skill level takes a lot of effort and time
b) I am not sure at the moment if i would be interested in living in Quebec in the long run forcing my kids to learn french thereby affecting their English significantly.
First thing is no, i still have time to complete even one year. My visa process took unusually long for a variety of reasons. Then i had a relatively longer notice period and needed time to move.
So i will start considering this early next year i.e. about the same time as when express entry initiates.
The other issue for me is that my job and residence are based in Montreal, Quebec and most of federal programs such as CEC or FSW require showing intent of living outside of Quebec. My head office is in Gatineau so i can technically move to Ottawa and still work in Gatineau. However, proving this intent would be some what tricky. So let's see when the time comes.
Lastly, i have not considered applying for Quebec based PR because
a) I do not know french and developing the required skill level takes a lot of effort and time
b) I am not sure at the moment if i would be interested in living in Quebec in the long run forcing my kids to learn french thereby affecting their English significantly.
Sure one can apply for FSW while being in Canada. But due to relatively longer processing times and other requirements, i am not sure if it is the first choice.
For e.g. it has some ridiculous requirements like degree equivalence (which when coming on work permit i simply submitted degree + transcript + experience letters) and that was enough. However, if i go the FSW route, i would have to get equivalence from University of toronto like place who would ask MY INSTITUTION in home country to send them an updated copy.
I don't know if these guys understand this, but a public university in my home country is never going to spend that money or time. I will have to be present in home country to get a fresh copy of degree from university (which i graduated from a decade ago) in a sealed envelope and post it myself.
That is just one example. Not to mention the 2+ years of processing time (without express entry). Lastly FSW has the same issue as that of "Quebec".
So viewing all that, unless i am forced to choose FSW (which i am not), i would prefer some thing like CEC with relatively lesser timeline and easier documentation.
Even then i would have to sync my FSW application with a visit back home to fulfill most of CIC's requirements.
For e.g. it has some ridiculous requirements like degree equivalence (which when coming on work permit i simply submitted degree + transcript + experience letters) and that was enough. However, if i go the FSW route, i would have to get equivalence from University of toronto like place who would ask MY INSTITUTION in home country to send them an updated copy.
I don't know if these guys understand this, but a public university in my home country is never going to spend that money or time. I will have to be present in home country to get a fresh copy of degree from university (which i graduated from a decade ago) in a sealed envelope and post it myself.
That is just one example. Not to mention the 2+ years of processing time (without express entry). Lastly FSW has the same issue as that of "Quebec".
So viewing all that, unless i am forced to choose FSW (which i am not), i would prefer some thing like CEC with relatively lesser timeline and easier documentation.
Even then i would have to sync my FSW application with a visit back home to fulfill most of CIC's requirements.
Hmmm. I understand the process involved to file FSW is too complicated and lengthy. What's on my mind is if work permit result is positive, my wife would travel to Canada by November mid, get a formal job offer document from employer which states permanent, full time and non seasonal and then she is planning to file PR before end of year through FSW. Only reason why we want to do quickly is express entry. Although, we know it would favor Candidates who have job offer, no body is sure about exact rules. This is reason why we do not want to wait till EE is launched. However, if something comes up more clearly on EE before end of year and also favors the job holders under skilled category, we would also apply under express entry.fkl said:
Sounds like a good plan. One thing that i understand so far is that express entry program is strictly going to be tied to employment. When they advertised it was written like bring that LMO and job offer and "we understand the pains employers and employees go through when those are brought in and it is still temporary and all issues associated with that". So it was more like introducing a faster PR process to replace tfw program.Intocanada said:
Obviously having a confirmed job and employer is a fundamental requirement.
Hi FKL,
Agreed but still not sure what will happen to us,we have a job offer which will be extended for another two years after Jan 2016,may be if required the employer can do a LMO.Right now my husband is LMO exempt.But the only problem is that in our case as we are into researcg there are not permanant jobs but only renewable contract positions.
Agreed but still not sure what will happen to us,we have a job offer which will be extended for another two years after Jan 2016,may be if required the employer can do a LMO.Right now my husband is LMO exempt.But the only problem is that in our case as we are into researcg there are not permanant jobs but only renewable contract positions.
Hi @ Fpaikar,
Well i guess no body is sure until details of the program actually become clear. But in my opinion research based jobs are always that way i.e. contracted and renewed for a certain period of time instead of stating "permanent". So i would be amazed if CIC doesn't understand this.
I don't think you need another LMO or anything. They would look at your current profile and job experience here and its validity for another year or two and that should be sufficient.
All the best
Well i guess no body is sure until details of the program actually become clear. But in my opinion research based jobs are always that way i.e. contracted and renewed for a certain period of time instead of stating "permanent". So i would be amazed if CIC doesn't understand this.
I don't think you need another LMO or anything. They would look at your current profile and job experience here and its validity for another year or two and that should be sufficient.
All the best
Thank you FKL.I am myself currently on an open work permit and completing Career bedge paid internship for 6 months after which i will look for other suitable opportunities.I am also thinking of writing the IELTS exam so that both of us are ready for the express entry next year.Lets cross our fingers.Wish everyone the best.
Glad to hear that. I believe you meant you are planning on taking IELTS soon. Just keep that in mind that it has a limited validity i.e. 2 years or so (i don't remember exactly, but something along these lines). So keep enough room for that.