Expired PR currently overseas taking Continuing Education Courses at a college

[zeekie]

Hey everyone, I just wanted to ask what the legality of taking Continuing Education Courses at a college are with an expired PR card. The card only expired this year and COVID is the reason the person couldn't enter Canada again before the card expired. The card will be attempted to be renewed on H&C grounds because of this in 2021.

The courses these days are understandably online only as well so they can be done from anywhere, but of course it's good to know whether or not it could have any serious implications.

Thanks!

 

[Naturgrl]

Containing education courses have nothing to do with expired PR.

 

[kathysrazor]

Where is the college located?

Permanent Residence Status doesn’t expire. Cards do. You can stay in Canada without a card Permanently, though it can cause issues occasionally for things like driver licensing.

If the RO is met, you don’t need H&C considerations to renew, you just renew. If it’s not, then it’s generally better to stay in Canada if possible until the RO is met, then apply for the card.

Attending college in Canada, they should require you to provide proof of lawful status, which would be proof of Canadian Citizenship, a Study Permit, or PR status. They may accept a COPR for this (especially early on), they may not.

The act of taking the classes won‘t affect your status. Applying for a replacement PR card will require them to look at the RO, so if it’s not met, you will need sufficient H&C evidence and reasons.

 

[scylla]

Hey everyone, I just wanted to ask what the legality of taking Continuing Education Courses at a college are with an expired PR card. The card only expired this year and COVID is the reason the person couldn't enter Canada again before the card expired. The card will be attempted to be renewed on H&C grounds because of this in 2021.

The courses these days are understandably online only as well so they can be done from anywhere, but of course it's good to know whether or not it could have any serious implications.

Thanks!

Studying outside of Canada generally isn't accepted as an H&C reason for failing to meet the residency requirement. So hopefully you have other and stronger reasons that prevented you from traveling to Canada.

COVID-19 is also not a good reason since PRs were still permitted to travel to Canada and enter Canada throughout most of COVID-19.

 

[kathysrazor]

COVID-19 is also not a good reason since PRs were still permitted to travel to Canada and enter Canada throughout most of COVID-19.

The Canadian restrictions didn’t officially apply to PRs, even in the beginning.

There are a few cases where H&C might apply, though. My passport was stolen, and I could not replace it due to COVID shutdowns for a while. The PRTD had to go in the passport, and the VAC was shutdown. Normally, Canada would give a standalone travel document in such a situation (like a refugee), but that department was shutdown. I was in the US because I was working in the fight against COVID. I could (and did) make a H&C application, though it was mooted once the US provided me a passport (as standalone travel documents are only for those who can’t get or use a passport).

It’s possible to make a H&C claim for COVID, but it really needs to have some other details backing it up, like caring for family who lost someone to COVID, or being shoved in quarantine because of COVID. You could probably even make a case if you lost your job due to COVID and could not afford a ticket back, as long as you demonstrated that you otherwise would have been returning in time (short term contract).

 

[canuck78]

Hey everyone, I just wanted to ask what the legality of taking Continuing Education Courses at a college are with an expired PR card. The card only expired this year and COVID is the reason the person couldn't enter Canada again before the card expired. The card will be attempted to be renewed on H&C grounds because of this in 2021.

The courses these days are understandably online only as well so they can be done from anywhere, but of course it's good to know whether or not it could have any serious implications.

Thanks!

Would suggest you ask what proof will be needed to prove your status to qualify for domestic tuition. Assume the issue is you wanting to pay domestic tuition not just studying.

 

[canuck78]

The Canadian restrictions didn’t officially apply to PRs, even in the beginning.

There are a few cases where H&C might apply, though. My passport was stolen, and I could not replace it due to COVID shutdowns for a while. The PRTD had to go in the passport, and the VAC was shutdown. Normally, Canada would give a standalone travel document in such a situation (like a refugee), but that department was shutdown. I was in the US because I was working in the fight against COVID. I could (and did) make a H&C application, though it was mooted once the US provided me a passport (as standalone travel documents are only for those who can’t get or use a passport).

It’s possible to make a H&C claim for COVID, but it really needs to have some other details backing it up, like caring for family who lost someone to COVID, or being shoved in quarantine because of COVID. You could probably even make a case if you lost your job due to COVID and could not afford a ticket back, as long as you demonstrated that you otherwise would have been returning in time (short term contract).

The big issue is that many are already not compliant with their RO before covid and were planning on returning before their PR card expired and hoped they weren't reported. When people use reasons related to COVID it really depends if they were on track to be compliant before covid.

 

[Orangecurry]

Please suggest how is Human Resource Management post graduate certificate in Humber college in terms of getting a job?

 

[Marius12]

salut

Je suis diplômé d'un baccalauréat en commerce international, je souhaite poursuivre mes études au canada dans le domaine car je rêve d'être acheteur international. s'il vous plaît quoi faire?

 

[canuck78]

Please suggest how is Human Resource Management post graduate certificate in Humber college in terms of getting a job?

Somewhat depends on your education and work history.

 

[Marius12]

Merci pour votre attention, j'ai un baccalauréat en commerce international, j'inspire la fonction d'acheteur international. s'il vous plaît aidez-moi, je ne sais pas par où commencer

 

[zeekie]

Hi Everyone, thanks for the responses.. haven't been on here in a while. So just to be clear, the H&C grounds are related to the PR Renewal application and not the educational courses.

I understand that COVID alone isn't a good enough reason for renewal, there's a whole backstory to the situation and honestly I don't know what conclusion the IRCC would come to regarding it, but we figure it's better to try our hand and see what happens. The person doesn't meet the RO but they're pretty close and personal circumstances caused them to leave and not be able to return to fulfill at least up to the RO even before COVID.

In regards to the courses, I never considered domestic/international fees since the college only lists a single fee (It's Sheridan College in Ontario) and I haven't been able to find anything about legal statuses in the FAQs. I have sent them an email though so they'll respond in a few days, I'll update here if anyone is still following this.