Entry and Exit

[rhetorisch]

Dear All,

I am posting this as a new topic simply to draw your attention to this. As it is to do with entering and exiting Canada, I have used the same subject. Forgive me if I am wrong. I request all respected members of this forum to let me have their analysis of this situation:

Let us say a person holds an Arabic pasport and his application for canadian PR is successful. After being issued his PR cards let us say he has been granted a US passport, which he wasnt when his Canadian PR was granted. Now after getting his US passport he holds two nationalities.
When this person enters Canada, he presents his PR card together with his Arabic passport and his entry is recorded. When exiting Canada, he presents his US passport and nothing else. Will this person be assumed to be still staying in Canada as his PR card wasnt presented when exiting the country? OR will his identity be picked up by the system when exiting (regardless of the passport he presents)? I intend to know if this person's exit without presenting a PR card would have a bearing on his stay in the country for the purposes of acquiring Canadian Citizenship/extending his PR?

Thanks in advance
R

 

[PMM]

Hi

Dear All,

I am posting this as a new topic simply to draw your attention to this. As it is to do with entering and exiting Canada, I have used the same subject. Forgive me if I am wrong. I request all respected members of this forum to let me have their analysis of this situation:

Let us say a person holds an Arabic pasport and his application for canadian PR is successful. After being issued his PR cards let us say he has been granted a US passport, which he wasnt when his Canadian PR was granted. Now after getting his US passport he holds two nationalities.
When this person enters Canada, he presents his PR card together with his Arabic passport and his entry is recorded. When exiting Canada, he presents his US passport and nothing else. Will this person be assumed to be still staying in Canada as his PR card wasnt presented when exiting the country? OR will his identity be picked up by the system when exiting (regardless of the passport he presents)? I intend to know if this person's exit without presenting a PR card would have a bearing on his stay in the country for the purposes of acquiring Canadian Citizenship/extending his PR?

Thanks in advance
R

1. As Canada doesn't have exit controls if he was entering the US then the entry would be record and available to CBSA. Yes they would be able to determine that he has US citizenship. You probably will get caught as you will have to prove that you have actually lived in Canada when you apply for citizenship.

 

[Alabaman]

There has been so many speculations about entry and exit records as they relate to residency obligation. My take on this is that CIC does not have a record of entry and exit. People say your passport/PR card is scanned so they keep a record based on that. If this is the case, why does CIC issue residency questionaiires? Why not just determine from their record?

The residency obligation determination by CIC is based on what you fill out in the forms you fill to apply for PR renewal or Citizenship. In some cases you might be required to substatiate this based on stamps on your passport. For highly questinable cases, you will be required to submit evidence of your physical presence e.g. payslips, bank statements, job history etc.

Now this is not to say that if necessary, they can not pull your travel history from some where. I strongly believe they will only do this if you are a potential threat e.g. a terrorist.

To answer your question, since you enter the US with a US passport, it will look like you are still in Canada since there is no stamp anywhere that shows your exit. However, when you file to renew your PR and there is reason to suspect (either objectivly or subjectively) then they might ask for evidence like payslip etc.

Once again, my take on the system.