Education points for medical doctor

[Roger55]

How many points are awarded for education for a " specialist physician " with two specialties with 24 years of formal education? Is it 22 or 25 ? Please advise.

roger55

 

[drwamin]

I think its 25.

 

[Roger55]

Thanks for your reply. Can anybody confirm this ? Experts , I really would appreciate your input on this one.


Roger

 

[drwamin]

Where are you from,
write dowm your query ont he pakistani froum, there are many experts online ,and i belive that you will get a prompt reply from any of them.
What is your qualification besides mbbs.

 

[Roger55]

Well its not for my case, its for a friend who is thinking of immigration to canada and asked me to calculate his own points . I told him I would find out here. Where is the pakistani forum?

His qualifications are :

medical doctor , internal medicine & nephrologist , 24 yrs formal study

any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks..

 

[helios]

How many points are awarded for education for a " specialist physician " with two specialties with 24 years of formal education? Is it 22 or 25 ? Please advise.

roger55

Master or Doctorate degree with at least 17 years of formal education scores 25 points.

 

[Najeebkhan84]

he will get 25 if he has other degree like specialization ,if only MBBS then 20 points,bcoz MbBs consider as primary degree not a Secondary degree

 

[Roger55]

he will get 25 if he has other degree like specialization ,if only MBBS then 20 points,bcoz MbBs consider as primary degree not a Secondary degree

Thanks for your reply. Yes he has 2 specializations, internal medicine & nephrology. Are you sure he gets the 25 points, because the booklet says you have to have either a masters degree or a doctorates degree. That is what I find confusing. What about the other senior members ?

 

[Najeebkhan84]

look buddy i am not a doctor, if both specialization consider as Master's like ACMA in Finance,and is consider as second level education then u will get 25 points

 

[Najeebkhan84]

Officers should assess programs of study and award points based on the standards that exist in
the country of study. The Regulations do not provide for comparisons to Canadian educational
standards;

If the applicant has an educational credential referred to in a particular paragraph in R78(2) but
not the total number of years of study required by that paragraph, officers should award the
number of points set out in the paragraph that refers to the number of years of study completed
by the applicant [R78(4)].

Example: 1. If an applicant has a master’s degree, but only 16 years of education, an officer would go
down to the category for which the applicant meets the total number of years and, using this example,
award 22 points;

Example: 2. If an applicant has a four-year bachelor’s degree and 16 years of education, an officer
would award 20 points, as a single two, three, or four-year university credential at the bachelor’s level,
combined with at least 14 years of full-time study, is worth 20 points;


Note: Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a
Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional”
degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it
belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor’s credential is
a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then
22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for
educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher
university credential.

 

[Roger55]

Note: Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a
Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional”
degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it
belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor's credential is
a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then
22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for
educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher
university credential.

I am confused.

 

[sharma77]

Hi

My close fnd is MD and got 25 marks, so definately u will also get 25 marks, I can assure u, MD/MS is master degree , for which they grant 25 marks, only condition is that it would have taken more than 17 yrs to complete all the study, in ur case it is 24 yrs,so u r well through.

Even for MBBS they give 22 marks, as it is first level professional degree, ( for every professional degree( like B pharma, B tech. BVSc) they give 22 marks, and for 'ordinary first level degrees'( like BSc, BA) they give 20 marks.

I am very much sure, i know a lot of docs who migrated to Canada with this point gradation. Don't worry u will get full 25 marks

Cheers

 

[sharma77]

Note: Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a
Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional”
degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it
belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor's credential is
a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then
22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for
educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher
university credential.

See man MBBS is required to study Masters Degree in medicine, therefore even though MBBS is a first level degree, but prerequisite for 2nd level degree( Except MBBS no one can have master degree in medicine, so this first level medical degree is essential, prerequisite) so they give 22 marks for MBBS , and naturally for 2nd level they give 25 marks.

 

[rupeshhari]

Note: Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a
Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional”
degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it
belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor's credential is
a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then
22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for
educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher
university credential.

I am confused.

In some countries, one has to do a basic degree like BS or BA before doing their medical degree (like in the US). If the medical degree (i.e. then the second degree) in this case is run by a graduate school then the person gets 25 points but sometimes it is run by an undergraduate department in some countries, then it is not recognized as a graduate degree but since the person has 2 undergraduate degrees, the person gets 22 points.

If the medical degree can be done as the first degree of a candidate, then it is an undergraduate degree and gets 20 points.

 

[fraz]

dear he will get 25 point. i dicussed it with cic consultant also so finaly he will get 25 point.plzz dont confused 25.and aply nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Dr.fraz(pakistan)