Does your address impacts your processing timeline? The answer is YES

[Politren]

I am starting to see a big correlation between some processing timelines and the local addresses of the applicants.

It seems the problem is also where we live in Canada. There are some problematic local offices which create a big local backlogs.

 

[Canadiandesi2006]

I am starting to see a big correlation between some processing timelines and the local addresses of the applicants.

It seems the problem is also where we live in Canada. There are some problematic local offices which create a big local backlogs.

Absolutely correct, as per the various tracking worksheets on the forum, clearly the CIC offices in Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, Montreal and Ottawa are doing great job and processing pretty fast.

Below URL would give a snap shot of processing pace, the fastest and slowest processing CIC office locations.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HO2bMpPOII6R0N7q3oULrAgA27LJYaz3l9fMWcGaOms/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

Probably, the Scarborough, Mississauga, SK, Winnipeg beside some more are way too slow in processing.

Unless they optimize the CIC internal processes big time, streamline entire workflow, find some creative ways to handle workload, security and different cases, they would continue with lame excuses, workload, security and each case is different.

Hope CIC does not want same number of employees as the applicants to manage their work.

Obviously, each case will be different. Applications coming from immigrant community from hundreds of countries.

Even mom, pop grocery stores efficiently manages their thousands of products by so called "Category Management", define cases by categories and assign to trained specialized group to handle them efficiently and swiftly.

Reminded of a common adage "Where there is a will, there is a way" ;D

 

[links18]

Yes it does, but what does it matter if nobody will do anything about it? Sounds like ripe grounds for a lawsuit, but nobody has done it yet, which should tell you something.

 

[Politren]

links18, The problem is that the former CIC and the current IRCC have never been engaged by mandatory processing time deadlines. IRCC always gives useless general timeline statistics of what used to be in the past.

If the local office works slow the chances to ask for more documents increases. This is how they borrow extra amount of time as an excuse. I think Canadiandesi2006 have also noticed this correlation.

 

[links18]

links18, The problem is that the former CIC and the current IRCC have never been engaged by mandatory processing time deadlines. IRCC always gives useless general timeline statistics of what used to be in the past.

If the local office works slow the chances to ask for more documents increases. This is how they borrow extra amount of time as an excuse. I think Canadiandesi2006 have also noticed this correlation.

You are right, but once again who is going to do something about it? At one time there were reports of Windsor applications being processed in under a year, while Winnipeg was taking close to three years on a routine application. If there wasn't a class action suit on behalf of Winnipeg applicants then to force change, why would it happen now when processing times are better--even if there are still discrepancies based on local office.

 

[HighFive]

links18, The problem is that the former CIC and the current IRCC have never been engaged by mandatory processing time deadlines. IRCC always gives useless general timeline statistics of what used to be in the past.

If the local office works slow the chances to ask for more documents increases. This is how they borrow extra amount of time as an excuse. I think Canadiandesi2006 have also noticed this correlation.

Agree. It had always been like that. Last year they said though that they will move applications around Canada to speed up processing, created Montreal CEN for RQ reviews, etc.

 

[Politren]

Frankly I think that IRCC is untouchable, because there is never been any mandatory official processing timeline standard.

However the intend to reside has grounds for legal challenge, because as part of eligibility criteria it is valid until the Oath. So that practically creates different eligibility criteria depending solely upon the processing time of the local office.

I guess the Liberals realized that and therefore they want to ditch it upon the Royal Assent.

On the other hand I just don't see how the processing times will decrease when we have expectation for a huge flood when the 3/5 rule kicks in , which will be welcomed by decreased budget for the Citizenship programme. Logically we can expect only one thing, A Big disaster in the processing timelines once the 3/5 become effective.

 

[links18]

Frankly I think that IRCC is untouchable, because there is never been any mandatory official processing timeline standard.

However the intend to reside has grounds for legal challenge, because as part of eligibility criteria it is valid until the Oath. So that practically creates different eligibility criteria depending solely upon the processing time of the local office.

Well, there have always been varying requirements for citizenship depending upon processing times at various local offices even before the intent to reside clause, i.e. Maintenance of PR status. Someone in Windsor had to maintain PR status 12 months or so after application, while for someone in Winnipeg it was often 30 months or more. Nobody cared and nobody did anything about it.....

 

[Politren]

Well, there have always been varying requirements for citizenship depending upon processing times at various local offices even before the intent to reside clause, i.e. Maintenance of PR status. Someone in Windsor had to maintain PR status 12 months or so after application, while for someone in Winnipeg it was often 30 months or more. Nobody cared and nobody did anything about it.....

There is a big difference between the intend to reside and maintaining a valid PR status until the Oath. The latest has specific and clear days criteria to be maintained.

The Intend clause was just vague, no strict definition simply because it's subjective and dependable upon the local office processing speed.

But I understand your point. The problem is that officially it just can't be challenged simply because no processing mandatory standards have ever existed. There is just no liability to IRCC.

 

[links18]

There is a big difference between the intend to reside and maintaining a valid PR status until the Oath. The latest has specific and clear days criteria to be maintained.

Well, not really--considering you don't really know if you are in a slow or fast office when you apply (unless you hand out on here). Some people apply, make life decisions based on the processing time for 80 percent of cases, only to realize later they are in a slow office and have to start worrying about their PR status, necessitating other life decisions.

 

[heeradeepak]

Frankly I think that IRCC is untouchable, because there is never been any mandatory official processing timeline standard.

However the intend to reside has grounds for legal challenge, because as part of eligibility criteria it is valid until the Oath. So that practically creates different eligibility criteria depending solely upon the processing time of the local office.

I guess the Liberals realized that and therefore they want to ditch it upon the Royal Assent.

On the other hand I just don't see how the processing times will decrease when we have expectation for a huge flood when the 3/5 rule kicks in , which will be welcomed by decreased budget for the Citizenship programme. Logically we can expect only one thing, A Big disaster in the processing timelines once the 3/5 become effective.

Only solution to this problem is some lazy CIC officers should be fired because they like to issue RQ or secondry view only they doesn't spend few more minutes to review file to avoid unnecessary delay.

 

[Politren]

Well, not really--considering you don't really know if you are in a slow or fast office when you apply (unless you hand out on here). Some people apply, make life decisions based on the processing time for 80 percent of cases, only to realize later they are in a slow office and have to start worrying about their PR status, necessitating other life decisions.

Actually it was officially published on annual reports regarding the processing times that in the last few years they failed to reach the 80% standard. The percentage was something like 57% for one year, 63% for the next , and so on... CIC officially admitted that couple years in a row they just can't keep the 80%. As we all can see no consequences for CIC. NONE

My particular office at the moment maintain some kind of middle pace, it's not the fastest but also not the slowest.

Only solution to this problem is some lazy CIC officers should be fired because they like to issue RQ or secondry view only they doesn't spend few more minutes to review file to avoid unnecessary delay.

I also think that there is a fundamental problem with the quality of the staff who process the applications and also their quality of training. The whole structure of the process is from the old school.
Definitely doesn't look like a organization from a G7 country.

 

[keesio]

Probably, the Scarborough, Mississauga, SK, Winnipeg beside some more are way too slow in processing.

What happened to Mississauga?? It used to be one of the fastest...

 

[Politren]

What happened to Mississauga?? It used to be one of the fastest...

Now almost every application from GTA goes for processing in Scarborough. Mississauga is not what used to be.
Now Scarborough is overloaded with work. Brilliant distribution isn't it.

We also got the bucked for problematic cases called St. Clair. Technically a dead end local office for a very long time.

Awful organization in GTA

 

[Politren]

Thank you links18 for pointing my attention to Windsor. Most probably I will move there when I apply for citizenship.
It seems this is the fastest local office in Canada.

I also checked sufficient amount of database which prove the same thing.