Dependent Child - Length of undertaking

[C0S]

Hello everyone
I've been trying to find an answer to this question for over a year now, but haven't been successful so far. If anyone has any information I'll probably start crying with joy.
The thing is - if I sponsored a dependent child over 19 years of age and the application was processed in early 2014 and the child became a permanent resident in 2015, what is the length of undertaking? Would they be affected by the changes that happened in 2014 (reducing the length of undertaking to 3 years)? Or would the length be based on the old rules?
Also, once the undertaking ends, what happens then? Would the person still be a sponsored immigrant, or would they become a normal permanent resident?
Thank you very much for your time and any information that could point me in the right direction, I really appreciate it.

 

[CDNPR2014]

there is no such thing as a "sponsored" pr and "normal" pr, there is just Permanent Residency. All PRs are equal, and gain full rights of being a canadian resident upon landing. Once a person lands a a PR, they are a permanent resident. There is no waiting period to have full PR status because of a financial undertaking. the financial undertaking you signed is suggesting you are financially responsible for them for a certain amount of time. it has nothing to do with their PR status.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Hi

You searched for a year?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=904&top=14

Effective August 1, 2014, the duration of undertaking for sponsorship of dependent children of the sponsor or of the sponsor’s spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner, or for children to be adopted in Canada has changed as follows:

- If the dependent child is 19 years of age or older when they become a permanent resident, the duration of sponsorship undertaking ends on the last day of the 3-year period following the day on which they become a permanent resident.

 

[C0S]

there is no such thing as a "sponsored" pr and "normal" pr, there is just Permanent Residency. All PRs are equal, and gain full rights of being a canadian resident upon landing. Once a person lands a a PR, they are a permanent resident. There is no waiting period to have full PR status because of a financial undertaking. the financial undertaking you signed is suggesting you are financially responsible for them for a certain amount of time. it has nothing to do with their PR status.

I understand that, but there is actually a difference - if the child wants to apply to a program or certain schools, they will ask if they are sponsored or "just" a permanent resident. If the undertaking is over, does that mean the sponsorship is over completely?

 

[C0S]

Hi

You searched for a year?

Effective August 1, 2014, the duration of undertaking for sponsorship of dependent children of the sponsor or of the sponsor’s spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner, or for children to be adopted in Canada has changed as follows:

- If the dependent child is 19 years of age or older when they become a permanent resident, the duration of sponsorship undertaking ends on the last day of the 3-year period following the day on which they become a permanent resident.

I have read that, but I'm still unsure, as the application that we filled, submitted and got approved still had all the old information on it. Does that mean that the signed undertaking is now "invalid"?

 

[CDNPR2014]

I understand that, but there is actually a difference - if the child wants to apply to a program or certain schools, they will ask if they are sponsored or "just" a permanent resident. If the undertaking is over, does that mean the sponsorship is over completely?

i think you are not understanding the difference correctly. If a PR was sponsored by a family member, then they will always be considered a "sponsored" PR. The fact they were sponsored does not change once the financial undertaking ends. There are other immigration streams where people become PRs without being sponsored by a specific person, like the ecomonic Express Entry stream. They are also Permanent Residents, but were not "sponsored" by a person. Again, being "sponsored" doesn't mean a person is not a "real" PR, it simply means someone sponsored them to come to canada and is financially responsible for them for a certain amount of time.

 

[C0S]

i think you are not understanding the difference correctly. If a PR was sponsored by a family member, then they will always be considered a "sponsored" PR. The fact they were sponsored does not change once the financial undertaking ends. There are other immigration streams where people become PRs without being sponsored by a specific person, like the ecomonic Express Entry stream. They are also Permanent Residents, but were not "sponsored" by a person. Again, being "sponsored" doesn't mean a person is not a "real" PR, it simply means someone sponsored them to come to canada and is financially responsible for them for a certain amount of time.

Thank you very much, that helped me understand it a lot better .

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I understand that, but there is actually a difference - if the child wants to apply to a program or certain schools, they will ask if they are sponsored or "just" a permanent resident. If the undertaking is over, does that mean the sponsorship is over completely?

There is no difference and schools will most certainly not ask if a person is sponsored or "just" a PR.

I have read that, but I'm still unsure, as the application that we filled, submitted and got approved still had all the old information on it. Does that mean that the signed undertaking is now "invalid"?

It doesn't matter when the app was filed. What matters is the rule in effect when the person became a PR. Your undertaking will end in 2018.

Why are you so concerned about this? Is the person trying to apply for welfare?

 

[C0S]

There is no difference and schools will most certainly not ask if a person is sponsored or "just" a PR.


It doesn't matter when the app was filed. What matters is the rule in effect when the person became a PR. Your undertaking will end in 2018.

Why are you so concerned about this? Is the person trying to apply for welfare?

Thank you so much for the information. The person in question has become completely disabled, so I'm just looking into ways to make his life more "livable" in the future. All of the programs I have looked into were asking questions about sponsorship that I didn't understand, so I turned to this site for help. Now that I have a better idea of what all of it means I'm sure I'll be better able to help him.