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Countdown for receiving child care benefits !

Hasni

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App. Filed.......
31.05.2011
Doc's Request.
13.03.2013
Med's Request
29.07.2013
Med's Done....
04.08.2013
Passport Req..
07.10.2013
VISA ISSUED...
23.10.2013
LANDED..........
28.11.2013 by the grace of Allah SWT
Hello Amadan, Rosie , steaky and seniors,

I am a new immigrant, landed in Nov'13 for 15 days and came back. Since I intend to move for goods in near future, so one of my friends advised me to submit my tax returns online right now. I just have to put zero income and that's all, no big maths involved. Should I do it as advised, or better to submit return through some tax expert while I am physically present in Canada. Will filing returns now on line will make my countdown (of 90 days for receiving the child care benefits) start now itself ! Thanks
 

Rosie1957

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Mar 9, 2014
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Hasni, it's not clear to me from your post that you've established significant residential ties in Canada yet. Being a PR for immigration purposes is different from being a resident for tax purposes. Had you actually established a home here by the end of 2013, i.e., rented or purchased a place to live?

Also be aware that while you may have zero Canadian-source income for the year:
1) If you tell the CRA that you became a resident on 28-Nov-2013, then your world income (from all countries) from Nov 28 to Dec 31 is taxable in Canada.
2) Your GST credit and Child Tax Benefits will be based on your world income for all of 2013, not just on your income from Nov 28 to Dec 31.

You might want to have a look at form RC66 Schedule E on the CRA site before proceeding further.
 

Hasni

Champion Member
May 16, 2010
1,191
32
Category........
Visa Office......
LVO
NOC Code......
7216
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31.05.2011
Doc's Request.
13.03.2013
Med's Request
29.07.2013
Med's Done....
04.08.2013
Passport Req..
07.10.2013
VISA ISSUED...
23.10.2013
LANDED..........
28.11.2013 by the grace of Allah SWT
Rosie1957 said:
Hasni, it's not clear to me from your post that you've established significant residential ties in Canada yet. Being a PR for immigration purposes is different from being a resident for tax purposes. Had you actually established a home here by the end of 2013, i.e., rented or purchased a place to live?

Also be aware that while you may have zero Canadian-source income for the year:
1) If you tell the CRA that you became a resident on 28-Nov-2013, then your world income (from all countries) from Nov 28 to Dec 31 is taxable in Canada.
2) Your GST credit and Child Tax Benefits will be based on your world income for all of 2013, not just on your income from Nov 28 to Dec 31.

You might want to have a look at form RC66 Schedule E on the CRA site before proceeding further.
thanks for the reply. NO I haven't established any residential ties with Canada yet. Just landed for 15 days and came back. Now about my worldwide income, I guess it will also come under tax net once I establish residential ties with Canada, correct me if I am wrong. However I do have some money lying in my account in Canada and offcourse do intend to transfer / carry my savings to my bank account in Canada once I go for goods in near future. So what about that money which I will carry now as being an individual who is a permanent resident but has not established its residential ties with Canada yet. Thanks
 

Rosie1957

Full Member
Mar 9, 2014
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Having money in a bank account in Canada is a secondary tie. It doesn't make you a resident for tax purposes in and of itself. If the account earns interest, then you owe Canada taxes on that interest via a non-resident return.
 

Hasni

Champion Member
May 16, 2010
1,191
32
Category........
Visa Office......
LVO
NOC Code......
7216
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31.05.2011
Doc's Request.
13.03.2013
Med's Request
29.07.2013
Med's Done....
04.08.2013
Passport Req..
07.10.2013
VISA ISSUED...
23.10.2013
LANDED..........
28.11.2013 by the grace of Allah SWT
Thanks Rosie. Got a question connected to the topic. Can we claim / get back all the GST / HST which is charged on items purchased till the time we fall under the low income category or till the time we continue to receive child care benefit! Thanks
 

Suin

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Sep 14, 2008
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24-03-2014
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31-07-2014
Med's Request
09-12-2014
LANDED..........
24-02-2015, PR Card Received: 02-04-2015
Rosie1957 said:
Having money in a bank account in Canada is a secondary tie. It doesn't make you a resident for tax purposes in and of itself. If the account earns interest, then you owe Canada taxes on that interest via a non-resident return.
Could you please give us more information about a non-resident return? Is it possible to file it without Canadian SIN#?
 

steaky

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Suin said:
Is it possible to file it without Canadian SIN#?
Non-residents can get a temporary tax number from CRA which can be used instead of the Canadian SIN#. They can file the NR tax return with the temporary tax number or TTN.
 

Suin

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Sep 14, 2008
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Job Offer........
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31-07-2014
Med's Request
09-12-2014
LANDED..........
24-02-2015, PR Card Received: 02-04-2015
steaky said:
Non-residents can get a temporary tax number from CRA which can be used instead of the Canadian SIN#. They can file the NR tax return with the temporary tax number or TTN.
Thank you for your reply. We have a relative here who has a saving account that generates some interest income. The bank never sent him any T5 for filing and at the same time when he tried to apply for SIN#, he was refused on the reason that he is here on a visitor's status.
 

steaky

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Suin said:
Thank you for your reply. We have a relative here who has a saving account that generates some interest income. The bank never sent him any T5 for filing and at the same time when he tried to apply for SIN#, he was refused on the reason that he is here on a visitor's status.
That's why he need to get a TTN from the CRA, instead of applying the SIN#.
 

Suin

VIP Member
Sep 14, 2008
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285
Ontario, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
CIC Etobocoke, H&C Grounds
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
24-03-2014
File Transfer...
31-07-2014
Med's Request
09-12-2014
LANDED..........
24-02-2015, PR Card Received: 02-04-2015
steaky said:
That's why he need to get a TTN from the CRA, instead of applying the SIN#.
What is TTN? And how to apply for it?
 

Hasni

Champion Member
May 16, 2010
1,191
32
Category........
Visa Office......
LVO
NOC Code......
7216
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31.05.2011
Doc's Request.
13.03.2013
Med's Request
29.07.2013
Med's Done....
04.08.2013
Passport Req..
07.10.2013
VISA ISSUED...
23.10.2013
LANDED..........
28.11.2013 by the grace of Allah SWT
Suin said:
What is TTN? And how to apply for it?
temporary tax number