Confirmation of return ties - job / property details?

[Nemmy]

Hi all,

Hope someone can help with some advice. I am looking to visit my girlfriend in Canada April time next year for 6 months, and I am aware that I need to prove I have ties which will show I intend to return (a job to return to etc).

I am currently the director of my own Limited Company (I am director and sole employee) so I will have a job to come back to, but any letter I write stating this will be, obviously, signed by myself.

Does anyone know if this would still be acceptable, that I am signing my own letter (on company headed paper) stating I will have a job on my return from 6 months?
I am concerned that, because it is signed *by* myself *for* myself that it might raise some eyebrows at the border.

Also I understand that I should show proof that I have property still here which I will return to. I am currently renting so would the rental agreement be enough or should I get some form of letter from my landlord?

Many thanks and hope someone can advise

Nemmy.

 

[job_seeker]

Hi all,

Hope someone can help with some advice. I am looking to visit my girlfriend in Canada April time next year for 6 months, and I am aware that I need to prove I have ties which will show I intend to return (a job to return to etc).

I am currently the director of my own Limited Company (I am director and sole employee) so I will have a job to come back to, but any letter I write stating this will be, obviously, signed by myself.

Does anyone know if this would still be acceptable, that I am signing my own letter (on company headed paper) stating I will have a job on my return from 6 months?
I am concerned that, because it is signed *by* myself *for* myself that it might raise some eyebrows at the border.

Also I understand that I should show proof that I have property still here which I will return to. I am currently renting so would the rental agreement be enough or should I get some form of letter from my landlord?

Many thanks and hope someone can advise

Nemmy.

Your supporting papers are a bit weak, sad to say. Sure they would be acceptable but they would not be strong enough. You don't have to write your own certification. Nobody at the border will see the certification if indeed you made one for yourself because those would be submitted to the visa office (CIC-Manila). You can show your SEC registration or something similar (don't know what they are called- business permits?) to show that you have a business of your own.

 

[Nemmy]

Thanks Job_Seeker, but I am from England so I don't need to submit anything for a Visa as England is a Visa Exempt country. So I assume I would need to show any papers at the Border Control.

I don't understand when you say my papers would be a bit weak, could you clarify? What else would be required and how could I 'strengthen' this documentation?
I will also be taking payslips, a letter of invitation, return ticket, bank statements - my query was only about the Job and Rental side of the paperwork, I plan to take additional documentation as just mentioned

Any advice on the job/rental details is appreciated!

Thanks

 

[toby]

I'm missing something.

If you are visa exempt, why do you want advice no how to get a visa? Just say you are visiting, and your visa will be for 6 months.

By the way, to say you have a job to come back to in the UK -- but 6 months later -- does seem a bit weak, so best not stress that point.

 

[Nemmy]

Hi again, sorry I probably didn't make it clear. I am a British Citizen so I know that I don't need a Visa, but do I not need to bring supporting paperwork to prove to the Border Control that I can pay my way for 6 months and that I have ties back in the UK to prove that I will return after the 6 months?

I've read quite a few times on the forum that I should try and bring documentation to prove I have enough money for my stay, and that I have ties to come back to (e.g. job, house etc). I actually will have a job to come back to as my company will still be running in my absence.

I am now more confused than before! :/

 

[job_seeker]

Whew!!!!! I thought you needed to show proof of ties to your country that was why you are preparing those certifications and other documents for an application for a TRV. A simple bank certification would suffice as proof that you have enough to finance your trip (that is if you would feel more comfortable) but they may not ask you to show proof. Officer may just ask you but also may not Depends on the officer. Just show up at the airport Sorry about that.

 

[Nemmy]

LOL no. I didn't really make my situation clear at the start, my fault! Sorry.

So, erm, as a British Citizen wanting to visit my Canadian Citizen girlfriend for 6 months in Canada I don't really need to show ties back to the UK (job, property, etc as mentioned previously)?

I am just a little confused because people have said they have needed to prove this in the past to show they intend to return home after their stay, not only for a Visa (which I don't need) but also at Border Control. I want to be truthful and say I am visiting my girlfriend so would this not arouse suspicion that I might not return unless I prove the "ties" situation?

I guess, as you say, it may be just down to the specific Officer, but some clarification would be extremely helpful (as well as calming to us both!)

Sorry for all the questions, I am just trying to get clear exactly what I should prepare to bring along

 

[job_seeker]

Thanks Job_Seeker, but I am from England so I don't need to submit anything for a Visa as England is a Visa Exempt country. So I assume I would need to show any papers at the Border Control.

I don't understand when you say my papers would be a bit weak, could you clarify? What else would be required and how could I 'strengthen' this documentation?
I will also be taking payslips, a letter of invitation, return ticket, bank statements - my query was only about the Job and Rental side of the paperwork, I plan to take additional documentation as just mentioned

Any advice on the job/rental details is appreciated!

Thanks

I am sorry . I was confused as to why you'd be preparing those documentations. I thought you were preparing the documents to attach to an application for a visit visa and that you are in Manila!!!! Well now I understand why your worry is with the border As I myself is from a country whose citizens need to show visa to enter another country, the documentations we do prepare are always for submission with a visa application.

 

[job_seeker]

LOL no. I didn't really make my situation clear at the start, my fault! Sorry.

So, erm, as a British Citizen wanting to visit my Canadian Citizen girlfriend for 6 months in Canada I don't really need to show ties back to the UK (job, property, etc as mentioned previously)?

I am just a little confused because people have said they have needed to prove this in the past to show they intend to return home after their stay, not only for a Visa (which I don't need) but also at Border Control. I want to be truthful and say I am visiting my girlfriend so would this not arouse suspicion that I might not return unless I prove the "ties" situation?

I guess, as you say, it may be just down to the specific Officer, but some clarification would be extremely helpful (as well as calming to us both!)

Sorry for all the questions, I am just trying to get clear exactly what I should prepare to bring along

If you are honest I don't think the officer would actually bar you from entering Canada, especially if this is your first time. He/she may give you a visitor record if he/she suspect anything otherwise he/she'll just stamp your passport. Breathe =)) April is several months away.

 

[Nemmy]

Thanks JS, and it was my fault for not being specific about my query!
I guess I'll gather some docs just in case and see how it goes.

I have visited Canada before, and will be doing so again for 3 weeks in February (my girlfriend is also visiting me for Christmas) so it won't be the first time when I arrive for the 6 months.

Thanks for the help

 

[job_seeker]

Thanks JS, and it was my fault for not being specific about my query!
I guess I'll gather some docs just in case and see how it goes.

I have visited Canada before, and will be doing so again for 3 weeks in February (my girlfriend is also visiting me for Christmas) so it won't be the first time when I arrive for the 6 months.

Thanks for the help

O, so you're coming earlier eh=)) So you already had an experience going thru the POE. All the best.

 

[Nemmy]

Yes I've had that experience already and to be honest it was fine, but obviously saying 2 weeks and 3 weeks is different than saying 6 months and that is my concern, that they will want me to show I will only be staying for the 6 months by proving I will return home...

 

[job_seeker]

Yes I've had that experience already and to be honest it was fine, but obviously saying 2 weeks and 3 weeks is different than saying 6 months and that is my concern, that they will want me to show I will only be staying for the 6 months by proving I will return home...

Well when you told the officer you wanted to stay for two or three weeks, he still gave you six months, didn't he? As long as you have shown good track record of leaving when you were supposed to leave, I think there's no reason to worry. And hopefully you've not been to Canada too often that you've stayed in Canada longer than you stayed in England .

 

[toby]

I agree with the above popsters; you'll probably have nmo problems at all, expecially with a track record of leaving as promised.

But if you have a 6-month return ticket, but tell the border guard that you plan to stay for a few weeks, you might have problems. Better to say 6 months, and have a good reason for staying so long.

However, if you give your girlfriend as the reason for staying so long, that might engender suspicion that you'll overstay this time. I say MIGHT. So, assuming you honestly intend to leave after 6 months, but don't want to create unnecessariy hassles at the border, find a better, more temporary reason.

There's honesty, and brutal honesty. The former is usually better.

 

[Nemmy]

Well when you told the officer you wanted to stay for two or three weeks, he still gave you six months, didn't he? As long as you have shown good track record of leaving when you were supposed to leave, I think there's no reason to worry. And hopefully you've not been to Canada too often that you've stayed in Canada longer than you stayed in England .

No idea, my passport was stamped with my arrival date, no other date, and the only other numbers on the stamp were 61 and 701, neither seeming to relate to 6 months.

Anyway, getting back on topic, has anyone had to get a letter from their employer stating job availability on return to confirm ties, and if so what exactly does that letter contain?

Thanks.