conditional pr, marriage broken down, neglect

[buzztreat]

Hi,

My wife and I have been a genuine relationship for nearly 9 years before I came to Canada - have all the proof of this with pictures, chats, emails, gift receipts for all those years. She came to Canada first, we got married, she sponsored me and I came to Canada a few years after her after she sponsored me(circumstances & the crazy lengthy immigration processing time).

When I arrived in Canada she seemed to be this totally different person. While we were in touch nearly everyday ( have proof) till i arrived, and I even visited canada several times to meet her, the distance for those few years started making us grow a bit apart.

When I finally arrived in Canada - she seemed to be a different person from what she used to be in the 8 or more years. We lived together for 6 months but ultimately she left the house and started living elsewhere. Even during the 6 months that we lived together, she completely ignored me and refused to help me even get my medical card, doing so after some persuasion and as I had fallen badly ill. The way she was living her life wasn't fitting of someone in a marriage. She hit me once during an argument, but I have never raised my hands on her.

When she left our house, I wrote to CIC about all of this along with proof and how hard I tried to make things work with her. CIC expressed concerned about my mental wellbeing. They said that they would get back to me. When I followed up with them after 2 months, they replied saying they did not receive my attachments in my email. I sent it again and it has been >6 months now since Ive heard from them.

I have never taken a single cent from my wife to this day (1 year now that I have been in Canada) and don't intend to either. I am very well educated and got a very job here as soon as i arrived. My wife and I are still married and she hasn't applied for a divorce even though I told her that I would not object it, and even though I want this to work between us.

Any thoughts? I don't want to be waking up one-day months or years down the line with CIC asking me to leave Canada, or not giving me citizenship if and when it comes to it. I have spent a lot of time,money, energy and given up a lot ( a good job & life) to immigrate to Canada. It would be like turning the clock 3 years back if I were to go back aka a waste of 3 years time. I have paid taxes for last year & well settled here. I have stayed true to my wife to this day. My plus is that her own family(who reside in Canada) support me(with I spending entire weekends with them) and have even offered to give proof that I wasn't the one at fault.

 

[Shineon39]

You have a lenghty relation but I don't know If you were married 2 years before you apply for PR. If you were don't worry about it you don't have conditional PR.

 

[buzztreat]

we weren't. We were married a year before we applied. And I clearly have condition 51 in my COPR.

 

[keesio]

Sorry to hear of your marriage breakdown. I hope you two can work it out. If not, it sounds like your wife is not actively pursuing divorce or looking to report to IRCC about a marriage breakdown. If that is the case, you can try to continue to work it out and after another year if it doesn't work out, your condition 51 will have expired and you do not have to worry about losing your PR.

 

[Shineon39]

we weren't. We were married a year before we applied. And I clearly have condition 51 in my COPR.

I'm sorry for you, hope that everything will be good for you

 

[Aquakitty]

Well you did the right thing by telling CIC. From the little you said it sounds like they had some understanding regarding your situation. If they haven't said anything by now, I find it unlikely they are planning to take action against you. However following up with them might be the right choice to settle your mind a bit.

You can also explain how you've established yourself despite your relationship breakup. Explain that you feel like you are in limbo wondering what is going on with your situation.

The other option is to just go on with your life and not say anything. If they do try and deport you over it, you can appeal it. It's always good to save proof of what you are saying, if possible. Even if it's just friends who can vouche for you.

 

[buzztreat]

Well you did the right thing by telling CIC. From the little you said it sounds like they had some understanding regarding your situation. If they haven't said anything by now, I find it unlikely they are planning to take action against you. However following up with them might be the right choice to settle your mind a bit.

You can also explain how you've established yourself despite your relationship breakup. Explain that you feel like you are in limbo wondering what is going on with your situation.

The other option is to just go on with your life and not say anything. If they do try and deport you over it, you can appeal it. It's always good to save proof of what you are saying, if possible. Even if it's just friends who can vouche for you.

I am leaning towards the option of just continuing to build my life here. I had already followed up with them once, a few months ago, as mentioned in my original post. In that follow up I also wrote to them on how self sufficient I am. I'm reluctant to follow up again as I might come across as desperate. Moreover, it might cause them to reopen this or bring it back to the top if they've already let go of it.

 

[p0ppet]

It sounds like you don't have too much to worry about for a few reasons.

1. If you told them early on (and sent them documentation by the sound of things) and they haven't pursued you 8+ months in, they're probably not going to, especially since Mccallum said IRCC is already in the process of getting rid of Condition 51.
2. If they do pursue you, they won't just show up at your door and take you away - they'll send you a letter, there is a process, you'll have a chance to offer evidence of the abuse and neglect.
3. Citizenship can be stripped/denied for misrepresentation but you haven't misrepresented yourself, so you won't have to worry about your citizenship application getting denied over this.

You've told them about the abuse/neglect and separation, which is all you need to do - for now, just keep your head down and try not to worry about it too much.

 

[Shineon39]

It sounds like you don't have too much to worry about for a few reasons.


3. Citizenship can be stripped/denied for misrepresentation but you haven't misrepresented yourself, so you won't have to worry about your citizenship application getting denied over this.

You've told them about the abuse/neglect and separation, which is all you need to do - for now, just keep your head down and try not to worry about it too much.

Keep evidence that you notify them about your relation breakdowm.This way you'll protect yourself about misrepresention

 

[Mightytonewheel]

It sounds like you don't have too much to worry about for a few reasons.

1. If you told them early on (and sent them documentation by the sound of things) and they haven't pursued you 8+ months in, they're probably not going to, especially since Mccallum said IRCC is already in the process of getting rid of Condition 51.
2. If they do pursue you, they won't just show up at your door and take you away - they'll send you a letter, there is a process, you'll have a chance to offer evidence of the abuse and neglect.
3. Citizenship can be stripped/denied for misrepresentation but you haven't misrepresented yourself, so you won't have to worry about your citizenship application getting denied over this.

You've told them about the abuse/neglect and separation, which is all you need to do - for now, just keep your head down and try not to worry about it too much.

This is good advice. It's the government's choice whether to pursue and enforce Condition 51. It's not the PR who has the obligation to continuously prove Condition 51 is being met. I wouldn't continue to pepper them with questions; you've told them, and I think that's probably more than you're required to do.

One thing I would do, however: I'd keep careful notes about what's happened. If the government does pursue issues surrounding Condition 51, you'll be much more persuasive if you've kept careful notes and evidence.

 

[buzztreat]

Thank you all for your replies. It does make me feel a lot better. I have all the proof digitally stored, from my emails to cic to all the other evidence.

 

[canadianwoman]

I would not continue to ask CIC about your situation. You have informed them about it, and if they want to follow up, let them.

I suggest you do all you can to integrate well into society here. It sounds like you are already doing well. But keep proof of your ties to the community, such as volunteer activities, religious activities (if any), close ties to family, etc. That way if CIC does try to remove your PR status, you have evidence that you have established yourself well here - which can be used to convince them to let you stay because of humanitarian and compassionate considerations.

 

[Aquakitty]

Yea, I agree it's best not to "rock the boat". While contacting them might clear up the situation, I really don't think you have to worry as long as you keep your proof handy.