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superman2012

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Hi me and my partner are planning to apply for PR common law nxt year, However we are confused if we are still under conditional PR if our application got approve. We 're in relationship for 2years now and by the time we apply for PR nxt year our relationship will turns to 3 years. We don't have children.
 

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superman2012 said:
Hi me and my partner are planning to apply for PR common law nxt year, However we are confused if we are still under conditional PR if our application got approve. We 're in relationship for 2years now and by the time we apply for PR nxt year our relationship will turns to 3 years. We don't have children.
How long will you have lived together by the time you apply for PR? If it's less than three years - PR will be conditional. If you have lived together for three years or more at the time you apply - PR will not be conditional.
 

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scylla said:
How long will you have lived together by the time you apply for PR? If it's less than three years - PR will be conditional. If you have lived together for three years or more at the time you apply - PR will not be conditional.
We live year before we apply for PR.
 

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superman2012 said:
We live year before we apply for PR.
Then your PR will be conditional.
 

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A permanent resident with condition 51 is still a full permanent resident. The condition is just a way by which the PR status can be investigated and revoked, if the new PR and their sponsor cease living together.
 

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Majromax said:
A permanent resident with condition 51 is still a full permanent resident. The condition is just a way by which the PR status can be investigated and revoked, if the new PR and their sponsor cease living together.
Hi thanks for your insight. I hope our application next year will be fine and for now we are gathering many evidence as we can and by next year hopefuly we gonna apply for PR
 

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scylla said:
How long will you have lived together by the time you apply for PR? If it's less than three years - PR will be conditional. If you have lived together for three years or more at the time you apply - PR will not be conditional.
Did the laws change? I was certain that it was 2 years, then went to check CIC and it's 2 years (news release from 2012):

"Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) has introduced amendments to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (the Regulations) which apply to spouses, common-law or conjugal partners in a relationship of two years or less with their sponsor and who have no children in common with their sponsor at the time they submit their sponsorship application. The sponsored spouse must cohabit in a legitimate relationship with their sponsor for two years from the day on which they receive their permanent resident status in Canada. If they do not remain in the relationship, the sponsored spouse’s status could be revoked. The conditional measure only applies to permanent residents whose applications are received on or after October 25, 2012—the day that the amendments came into force.

Aside from the need to satisfy the two-year requirement, conditional permanent residence does not differ from normal permanent residence.
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Source: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2012/2012-10-26a.asp (under "What is conditional permanent residence?")

OP has been in a common-law partnership with the future sponsor for 2 years, and plan to apply after 1 year from now (vide quote below), totalling 3 years of common-law partnership by the time the application is submitted. They will have satisfied the two-year requirement.

superman2012 said:
Hi me and my partner are planning to apply for PR common law nxt year, However we are confused if we are still under conditional PR if our application got approve. We 're in relationship for 2years now and by the time we apply for PR nxt year our relationship will turns to 3 years. We don't have children.
 

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MiriamT said:
Did the laws change? I was certain that it was 2 years, then went to check CIC and it's 2 years (news release from 2012):
No - the laws haven't changed. You have to be in a common law relationship for 2 years before you apply to avoid conditional PR. Being common law for 2 years means you have to live together for 3 years. You aren't common law until you have completed the first year of living together - you then need an additional 2 years of living together - that makes 3 years of living together to avoid conditional PR.
 

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MiriamT said:
Did the laws change? I was certain that it was 2 years, then went to check CIC and it's 2 years (news release from 2012):

"Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) has introduced amendments to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (the Regulations) which apply to spouses, common-law or conjugal partners in a relationship of two years or less with their sponsor and who have no children in common with their sponsor at the time they submit their sponsorship application. The sponsored spouse must cohabit in a legitimate relationship with their sponsor for two years from the day on which they receive their permanent resident status in Canada. If they do not remain in the relationship, the sponsored spouse's status could be revoked. The conditional measure only applies to permanent residents whose applications are received on or after October 25, 2012—the day that the amendments came into force.

Aside from the need to satisfy the two-year requirement, conditional permanent residence does not differ from normal permanent residence.
"

Source: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2012/2012-10-26a.asp (under "What is conditional permanent residence?")

OP has been in a common-law partnership with the future sponsor for 2 years, and plan to apply after 1 year from now (vide quote below), totalling 3 years of common-law partnership by the time the application is submitted. They will have satisfied the two-year requirement.
Hi. Our relationship is 2 years now. We are in long distance relationship for 2 years and now I'm here in Canada as intl student. By 2015 we will apply for common law sponsorshilp 'coz next year will be our first year of living each other and it will be our 3 years anniversary at the time we will apply for PR nxt year.
 

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scylla said:
No - the laws haven't changed. You have to be in a common law relationship for 2 years before you apply to avoid conditional PR. Being common law for 2 years means you have to live together for 3 years. You aren't common law until you have completed the first year of living together - you then need an additional 2 years of living together - that makes 3 years of living together to avoid conditional PR.
Wow that's an easy to miss bit of math, but makes sense.

What bugs me about this whole conditional nonsense is they don't take into account married people who have lived together long before they are married. If they accept 3 years for common-law why not give credit for this as married people?
The only reason I can think of is it would take a more complicated application to prove your common-law and marriage, whereas a marriage date is a simple matter. Ah well no big deal.
 

superman2012

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What conditional permanent residence means for you
If you have been granted conditional permanent residence, you must live together with your sponsor in a legitimate relationship for two years from the day you receive conditional permanent residence. The condition ends after the two-year period.

Am I affected by this new measure?
Yes, if your application was received on or after October 25, 2012.

Yes, if you have been in a relationship of two years or less and do not have children in common with your sponsor.

No, if you have been in a relationship with your sponsor for more than two years.


No, if you had children in common with your sponsor at the time of your sponsorship application.


Guys I think I will not be consider as conditional PR (as stated above) since me and my partner will be having 3 years in relationship upon submitting the application. I
 

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Why does it even Matter??? You are in a GENUINE relationship so condition or NO condition makes no difference...really! No need to STRESS yourself out...Its to weed out people who try to get PR by marrying their sponsor and then ditch him/her As Soon as they get PR..
 

superman2012

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VioletBlue said:
Why does it even Matter??? You are in a GENUINE relationship so condition or NO condition makes no difference...really! No need to STRESS yourself out...Its to weed out people who try to get PR by marrying their sponsor and then ditch him/her As Soon as they get PR..
Nope, I'm not stressing my self. I'm just curious about this conditional PR that's why am posting this thread to help many people here who have the same question as mine.
 
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The only people who would really be worried about Condition 51 are either the ones who want to stay in Canada no matter what, whether divorced or not, or one spouse has a job outside Canada.

Otherwise, there is no reason to really worry about it, as long as you're in a genuine relationship, Condition 51 will come and go without any action on your part.