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Complicated travel history and pcc question plz help

Wolverine17

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I was residing in ksa before eastern province and used to go to bahrain several times for a very long time,now i left ksa and am residing in bahrain,but i am in a difficult situation in regards to my travel history:

1-after difficulty in knowing my car travel history between ksa and bahrain i was able to know my exit and entries to bahrain but not my exit or entries to ksa,i will use my passport to check stamps but thats not 100% reliable since some stamps are not clear and sometimes they didnt stamp at all,basically it is supposed to be one day trips but the thing is timings will be registered as a new day if after midnight and so exiting bahrain on 1- jan doesnt mean neccesarily arriving 1-jan at saudi and vice versa.

2-99 percent of my travels were done with my old passport so should i submit my old passport bio pages and all the pages having stamps??

3-i counted my days and they are less than 180 but is it possible that cic willl be asking for pcc from bahrain for the time period when i was a resident at ksa and not bahrain???practically speaking it is impossible as bahrain authorities wont deal with non residents or issue a pcc,i am trying to get pcc nowadays from bahrain and am not sure if they mention a start to end date off pcc or only issue date because if thats the case the pcc will be only be from when i moved to bahrain and not before.

4-on cic its mentioned that i will need to have a letter in order to communicate with authorities and get a pcc but i tried to get one now and it seems that they will be ok to issue me one,will that be a problem with cic??also in the application form my resudency permit no is mentioned plus my passport no which is my new passport no and not the old one is that ok??

5-i know that we are not supposed to write down trips between my country of residence at a time and home country but do you guys stick to that or do you write them down?also is there any problems if i mention them?thanks in advance
 

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1. You need to upload biopages and stamped pages of your old passport. These will be below the scan copies of your new passport pages.

2. You should not mention even 1 day gap in your travel history. So if you leave Bahrain on 1st Jan, then you have to mention entry in Saudi on either 1st Jan or 2nd Jan.

3. Bahrain PCC has a start date and end date to it. The End date is the day they stamp this PCC. You can check with Bahrain CID if they will provide you with the start date to be the day you first visited Bahrain. If not, then the first day will be the first day of your Bahrain residency permit stamped on your passport.
4. Bahrain CID might provide you PCC when you mention that you require it for immigration purpose. If they provide you PCC now, then attach it and mention about it in LOE. If IRCC requires a new PCC, then they will issue a request letter.
If they don't, then anyway request IRCC to provide you the request letter.

5. You only mention about the trips made outside of your country of citizenship. Never mention the trips made back to your own country.
 

Wolverine17

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sushsmart15 said:
1. You need to upload biopages and stamped pages of your old passport. These will be below the scan copies of your new passport pages.

2. You should not mention even 1 day gap in your travel history. So if you leave Bahrain on 1st Jan, then you have to mention entry in Saudi on either 1st Jan or 2nd Jan.

3. Bahrain PCC has a start date and end date to it. The End date is the day they stamp this PCC. You can check with Bahrain CID if they will provide you with the start date to be the day you first visited Bahrain. If not, then the first day will be the first day of your Bahrain residency permit stamped on your passport.
4. Bahrain CID might provide you PCC when you mention that you require it for immigration purpose. If they provide you PCC now, then attach it and mention about it in LOE. If IRCC requires a new PCC, then they will issue a request letter.
If they don't, then anyway request IRCC to provide you the request letter.

5. You only mention about the trips made outside of your country of citizenship. Never mention the trips made back to your own country.
So trips between egypt and ksa when i was there are not needed and then trips between egypt and bahrain now are not needed as well,well according to what you are saying now will i face rejection if the cid issue me pcc since the issue of my residency permit and not to my entry visa to bahrain?? Also what about my visits from ksa to bahrain will i need pcc for that time period? What will i need to do because am really stressed that i might face rejection because of these issues
 

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Wolverine17 said:
So trips between egypt and ksa when i was there are not needed and then trips between egypt and bahrain now are not needed as well,well according to what you are saying now will i face rejection if the cid issue me pcc since the issue of my residency permit and not to my entry visa to bahrain?? Also what about my visits from ksa to bahrain will i need pcc for that time period? What will i need to do because am really stressed that i might face rejection because of these issues
You just mention the "from date" and "to date" of the time period of all your stays in KSA and Bahrain - If Egypt is your country of citizenship.
Just check with Bahrain CID and tell them about this travel history. Take your old passport when you visit them. If they are willing to provide it from the very first day of your entry to Bahrain, then well and good. If not, then mention in a LOE that they are not providing it from the very first day.

You need to explain these complexities to IRCC in your LOE. IRCC will consider it. On the other end, it is a human being (provided it is not someone like Donal Trump) that is assessing your application and not a computer.
 

Wolverine17

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sushsmart15 said:
You just mention the "from date" and "to date" of the time period of all your stays in KSA and Bahrain - If Egypt is your country of citizenship.
Just check with Bahrain CID and tell them about this travel history. Take your old passport when you visit them. If they are willing to provide it from the very first day of your entry to Bahrain, then well and good. If not, then mention in a LOE that they are not providing it from the very first day.

You need to explain these complexities to IRCC in your LOE. IRCC will consider it. On the other end, it is a human being (provided it is not someone like Donal Trump) that is assessing your application and not a computer.
Ok so to clear it out i will only mention my car trips between ksa and bahrain but no need to mention any trips between ksa and egypt or bahrain and egypt correct
 

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Wolverine17 said:
Ok so to clear it out i will only mention my car trips between ksa and bahrain but no need to mention any trips between ksa and egypt or bahrain and egypt correct
Country From Date To Date
KSA MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
Bahrain MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
KSA MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
Bahrain MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
KSA MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
Bahrain MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
KSA MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
Bahrain MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
.......................................................................and so on. Start with the most recent first. I hope you get it.
 

Wolverine17

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sushsmart15 said:
Country From Date To Date
KSA MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
Bahrain MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
KSA MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
Bahrain MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
KSA MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
Bahrain MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
KSA MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
Bahrain MM-DD-YYYY MM-DD-YYYY
.......................................................................and so on. Start with the most recent first. I hope you get it.
All of them are one day trips so they are basically ksa to bah then bah to ksa but again i wont be 100 percent of the dates there is a one day chance error will it be ok?also i wont be able to have a pcc for the visits to bahrain when i was residing in ksa,the total days that i came from ksa to bahrain are less than 180 days in total but now obviously since i moved to bahrain i exceeded 6 months,will it be ok not showing pcc for the duration of my visits
 

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Wolverine17 said:
All of them are one day trips so they are basically ksa to bah then bah to ksa but again i wont be 100 percent of the dates there is a one day chance error will it be ok?also i wont be able to have a pcc for the visits to bahrain when i was residing in ksa,the total days that i came from ksa to bahrain are less than 180 days in total but now obviously since i moved to bahrain i exceeded 6 months,will it be ok not showing pcc for the duration of my visits
You need to be accurate. You need to check every stamp on your old passport and enter the dates accordingly. You are asking the same question again and again.
Read my previous posts, I have already answered your question twice.
 

Wolverine17

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sushsmart15 said:
You need to be accurate. You need to check every stamp on your old passport and enter the dates accordingly. You are asking the same question again and again.
Read my previous posts, I have already answered your question twice.
I dont have all the stamps in my passport sometimes they dont stamp and some stamps are not clear thats the problem
 

Amal Menon

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Today I was at bahrain CID office and officers there were saying, that they can't issue PCC for saudi Residents. My total stay is bahrain is more than 180 days.

So what should I do?