Citizenship Calculator

[sicko86]

Hi Guys,

I have a simple question for using the calculator .. as you know any part of a day spent in Canada is counted as a Day.

Lets say for example I left Canada on July 10th 2011 and came back to Canada July 30th 2011. (Passport are stamped with those 2 days from my home country and from Canada accordingly).

Should I put the Dates on the calculator as (July 11th - July 29th)? Assuming that the Days on July 10th and July 30th where partially spend in Canada??

Please confirm

 

[sept15]

Hi Guys,

I have a simple question for using the calculator .. as you know any part of a day spent in Canada is counted as a Day.

Lets say for example I left Canada on July 10th 2011 and came back to Canada July 30th 2011. (Passport are stamped with those 2 days from my home country and from Canada accordingly).

Should I put the Dates on the calculator as (July 11th - July 29th)? Assuming that the Days on July 10th and July 30th where partially spend in Canada??

Please confirm

Good day Sicko! That is a sick name. Kidding!

If you left July 10 (put July 10 as absent because you were NOT in Canada until the midnight - better safe than sorry).
Logically you can say you were in Canada on July 30 (because you were in Canada before the end of the day July 30th). This being said, there is nothing wrong in putting your absence including July 10 to July 30... this might take a day off from your presence, BUT again, better safe than sorry... you will not be penalized for this... if I were you, I would put my absence as July 10 - July 30... If you are stingy, you can say July 10 - July 29.... Both are 'logically correct'.

 

[sicko86]

Good day Sicko! That is a sick name. Kidding!

If you left July 10 (put July 10 as absent because you were NOT in Canada until the midnight - better safe than sorry).
Logically you can say you were in Canada on July 30 (because you were in Canada before the end of the day July 30th). This being said, there is nothing wrong in putting your absence including July 10 to July 30... this might take a day off from your presence, BUT again, better safe than sorry... you will not be penalized for this... if I were you, I would put my absence as July 10 - July 30... If you are stingy, you can say July 10 - July 29.... Both are 'logically correct'.

Thanks man however I was in Canada both July 10 and July 30 (Partially) .. so how this works .. I have more than 10 short trips around .. I will lose alot of days if I want to work with this safe rule .. I just want to know how it should be done .. I couldn't find a clear information about this!! Basically I was out of Canada July 11-July 29 and July 10 and July 30 I was partially in Canada .. so how should I do it

 

[kimosabe]

Hi Guys,

I have a simple question for using the calculator .. as you know any part of a day spent in Canada is counted as a Day.

Lets say for example I left Canada on July 10th 2011 and came back to Canada July 30th 2011. (Passport are stamped with those 2 days from my home country and from Canada accordingly).

Should I put the Dates on the calculator as (July 11th - July 29th)? Assuming that the Days on July 10th and July 30th where partially spend in Canada??

Please confirm

I'd stay on the safe side and put the dates as they appear. Yes, I'd lose some or maybe a lot of days, but at least you have ironclad computation that cannot be doubted.

 

[Leon]

Any part of a day spent in Canada is only good for the PR residency requirements. For citizenship, they count the nights so if you were outside from the 10th to the 31st, for citizenship, you were gone for 21 days and for PR requirements, you were gone for 20.

 

[sicko86]

Any part of a day spent in Canada is only good for the PR residency requirements. For citizenship, they count the nights so if you were outside from the 10th to the 31st, for citizenship, you were gone for 21 days and for PR requirements, you were gone for 20.

Thank you Leon .. I really appreciate it. Do you have a CIC link to confirm this? I tried to find it but I couldn't.

 

[Leon]

Thank you Leon .. I really appreciate it. Do you have a CIC link to confirm this? I tried to find it but I couldn't.

You have the citizenship calculator FAQ here, question 4: https://eservices.cic.gc.ca/rescalc/redir.do;jsessionid=8859A0956530F5DFA6F10B848887DBF9?redir=faq#Q4

Q4: When I try to calculate my absences, I get different numbers than the residence calculator. How does the residence calculator determine the number of days for each absence?

A4: The calculator uses the following rules to determine the number of days absent for each absence declared:

When calculating an absence, either the day you leave Canada or the day you return is considered an absence, but not both. For example, an absence between July 1, 2003 and July 15, 2003 equals 14 days of absence.
If you leave Canada and come back the same day, you do not have to declare an absence.
An absence on February 29 (leap day) is not counted as an absence, nor is it credited as a presence. See Question 5 for more information on leap days.
Total residence days ending in .5 are rounded up in your favour.
The total number of days absent includes all absences from Canada within the four-year period immediately preceding the date of your application. Because the time spent in Canada before you became a permanent resident is only credited as half-time, absences from Canada before you obtained permanent resident status are divided by two before they are included in the total number of days absent.

For PR requirements for any part of a day counting as a full day, see operational manual OP10 here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/RESOURCES/manuals/op/op10-eng.pdf on page 10:

6.4. Day

Section 27(2) of the Interpretation Act governs the calculation of time limits in federal statutes.
Where a statute refers to a number of days between two events (and precedes the number of
days with the words “at least”), both the day of occurrence of the first event as well as the day of
occurrence of the second event are to be counted in calculating the number of days. For the
purpose of calculating the number of days to comply with the residency obligation in IRPA
A28(2)(a), a day includes a full day or any part of a day that a permanent resident is physically
present in Canada. Any part of a day spent in Canada, or otherwise in compliance with A28(2)(a),
is to be counted as one full day for the purpose of calculating the 730 days in a five-year period.

 

[sicko86]

You have the citizenship calculator FAQ here, question 4: https://eservices.cic.gc.ca/rescalc/redir.do;jsessionid=8859A0956530F5DFA6F10B848887DBF9?redir=faq#Q4

For PR requirements for any part of a day counting as a full day, see operational manual OP10 here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/RESOURCES/manuals/op/op10-eng.pdf on page 10:

Thanks Leon (+1)

 

[sept15]

Thanks man however I was in Canada both July 10 and July 30 (Partially) .. so how this works .. I have more than 10 short trips around .. I will lose alot of days if I want to work with this safe rule .. I just want to know how it should be done .. I couldn't find a clear information about this!! Basically I was out of Canada July 11-July 29 and July 10 and July 30 I was partially in Canada .. so how should I do it

you had trouble understanding me or perhaps I was not clear. Basically if leave Vancouver for an International flight at 10: 30 PM on June 10 - you are NOT in Canada on June 10 because you were out of the Country before midnight.. now do not tell me the plane was flying over manitiba at 00:00 - you will have tough time claiming that minutes and seconds. lol

personal opinion - you might lose many days but better safe than RQed, or in other words screwed.
lol

 

[Oronno]

Hi guys interesting point!

So I just wanna confirm how most of the people fill in online residence calculator form.


It has 2 colums from and to for mentioning absence from Canada.


So let's say if I leave Canada on July 10 and come back on July 20 - do I mention July 10 under from and July 20 ( passport stamped with entry date July 20 to canada) under to column?

Or it should be actualy July 10 and July 19 under to column since on July 20th I am already in Canada?


Thanks for sharing your experience and suggestion.

Cheers

 

[kimosabe]

So let's say if I leave Canada on July 10 and come back on July 20 - do I mention July 10 under from and July 20 ( passport stamped with entry date July 20 to canada) under to column?

Yes, this is how it's done.

 

[keesio]

Hi guys interesting point!

So I just wanna confirm how most of the people fill in online residence calculator form.


It has 2 colums from and to for mentioning absence from Canada.


So let's say if I leave Canada on July 10 and come back on July 20 - do I mention July 10 under from and July 20 ( passport stamped with entry date July 20 to canada) under to column?

Or it should be actualy July 10 and July 19 under to column since on July 20th I am already in Canada?


Thanks for sharing your experience and suggestion.

Cheers

You put down July 10 to July 20 as the dates you left and returned.

The calculator automatically handles everything else. So you put the exact dates you left and entered Canada.