CIC refused wife TRV of Canadian husband- sponsorship

[Ottawa-applicant]

Hi,


“” THIS IS ON BEHALF OF MY FRIEND””


My friend is Canadian citizen, he applied for his wife TRV to come to Canada. She’s from Yemen and during the civil war in Yemen they flew to Malaysia since it’s the nearest and easiest place to go after all Arab/gulf countries will deny any Yemeni citizen from entering their land.
He indicated in the affidavit that he will apply for inland sponsorship once they arrive to Canada, he requested a special entry permit for his wife since their daughter is a Canadian citizen through the father. He knows the best way is to apply for sponsorship but the application takes 2 years and they can’t go back to Yemen or stay that long in Malaysia either. They’re basically stranded!!

CIC office in Malaysia refused their request. Any idea on what to do? He’s thinking to go to the media

All suggestions are appreciated!

 

[Taxed]

Going for the media for this? Like seriously?

He was refused because her TRV is not for a visit but to stay in Canada and that's not how it works, he shouldn't have mentioned about the inland application, all he can do is start the sponsorship asap.

 

[Ottawa-applicant]

Going for the media for this? Like seriously?

He was refused because her TRV is not for a visit but to stay in Canada and that's not how it works, he shouldn't have mentioned about the inland application, all he can do is start the sponsorship asap.

He is a Canadian citizen, his daughter is Canadian citizen, he would like to bring his wife to Canada, eventually she would come whether with TRV or sponsorship application.

The issue: they are stranded in Malaysia, no way they can go back to Yemen or even stay longer in Malaysia! What would you do? How would you apply for sponsorship and stay 2 years waiting where you can’t even find place to say for few months.

 

[Taxed]

He can start the sponsorship and if she change a country of residence, she should notify CIC, other than that there's no other way around it because I doubt she will be granted a TRV if she re applies.

 

[Ottawa-applicant]

He can start the sponsorship and if she change a country of residence, she should notify CIC, other than that there's no other way around it because I doubt she will be granted a TRV if she re applies.

They're going to the media anyways, change country of residence is not an option at this time.

thanks

 

[Taxed]

I didn't say to change the country of residence, let him start the sponsorship asap, if the wife had to move to another country, she can simply notify CIC.

Imagine if every person had to go the media for every disagreement with CIC, i think it wont change anything but they can certainly try.

 

[Ottawa-applicant]

I didn't say to change the country of residence, let him start the sponsorship asap, if the wife had to move to another country, she can simply notify CIC.

Imagine if every person had to go the media for every disagreement with CIC, i think it wont change anything but they can certainly try.

This is not a disagreement, it’s humanitarian situation, so we wait and see what will happen

Thanks thought

 

[Buletruck]

Unfortunately, having a child with and being married to a Canadian doesn't guarantee you entry into the country. As Taxed mentioned, the fact there is little chance of her leaving Canada would be a huge impediment to her approval. It's unfortunate, but there are many instances of spouses being refused a visitor visa for the same reasons....the risk of not leaving at the end of the visa duration. Not sure if it would help, but maybe they should consider having her apply for refugee status.

As for going to the media, I doubt it would have much impact. CIC works on pretty specific guidelines.....if this, then that....and pointing out flaws in the system hasn't worked in the past very well. It's a generic, impersonal system that has to cover a multitude of possibilities.

 

[Ottawa-applicant]

Unfortunately, having a child with and being married to a Canadian doesn't guarantee you entry into the country. As Taxed mentioned, the fact there is little chance of her leaving Canada would be a huge impediment to her approval. It's unfortunate, but there are many instances of spouses being refused a visitor visa for the same reasons....the risk of not leaving at the end of the visa duration. Not sure if it would help, but maybe they should consider having her apply for refugee status.

As for going to the media, I doubt it would have much impact. CIC works on pretty specific guidelines.....if this, then that....and pointing out flaws in the system hasn't worked in the past very well. It's a generic, impersonal system that has to cover a multitude of possibilities.

Hi,

Thanks for your input,

But the issue is not leaving Canada, she’s not in Canada!

Even though I understand the system is designed for all possibilities, Yemen is under current war and according to CIC, Yemenis are eligible for Pre-Removal Risk Assessment. So why not ease the access of people why’s trying to legally enter with their spouse/children. I know the system is not design to serve the need of one person, but Canada is well known for its support to human-rights and equality.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/2015-06-17.asp

Therefore, why not open refugee program for Yemenis like the Syrian? Or at least ease their access to Canada is they qualify and they’re eligible of course.

 

[steaky]

The issue: they are stranded in Malaysia, no way they can go back to Yemen or even stay longer in Malaysia! What would you do? How would you apply for sponsorship and stay 2 years waiting where you can’t even find place to say for few months.

Couldn't she apply a Singaporean TRV (or Thailand), then cross the border and come back to Malaysia to renew her tourist status until she get the Canadian landing visa to come to Canada for good?

 

[Ottawa-applicant]

Couldn't she apply a Singaporean TRV (or Thailand), then cross the border and come back to Malaysia to renew her tourist status until she get the Canadian landing visa to come to Canada for good?

Hi,

Thanks for your input, however Malaysian authorities will allow her to stay for 3 month, which mean she has to go back and forth between 2 countries until she gets the Canadian TRV

 

[steaky]

Hi,

Thanks for your input, however Malaysian authorities will allow her to stay for 3 month, which mean she has to go back and forth between 2 countries until she gets the Canadian TRV

Why not until she gets the Canadian landing visa? TRV are intended for temporary purposes. As she intends to immigrate to Canada, she needs a landing visa!

 

[Ottawa-applicant]

Why not until she gets the Canadian landing visa? TRV are intended for temporary purposes. As she intends to immigrate to Canada, she needs a landing visa!

So that mean she has to travel between Malaysia and Singapore for all during of her sponsorship application? It take up to 2 years, I don’t think that will be an option to consider, not to mention all the cost associated it with and even authorities might start question the frequent travel between these 2 countries.

 

[steaky]

So that mean she has to travel between Malaysia and Singapore for all during of her sponsorship application? It take up to 2 years, I don’t think that will be an option to consider, not to mention all the cost associated it with and even authorities might start question the frequent travel between these 2 countries.

How about travel a third or forth country such as Thailand and Indonesia?

 

[scylla]

He can certainly go to the media - but it's highly unlikely it's going to be of help. His case is in no way unusual. He should file the outland application ASAP and start looking at alternative options for where his wife can wait out the processing of the application outside of Canada (I agree Thailand may be a good option).

The refusal of the TRV was the expected outcome. It's too bad your friend didn't do some research in advance to know what to expect. TRVs aren't meant to be used to move someone to Canada early to live who is waiting for PR or planning on applying for PR - they're meant for genuine visitors. Including a letter in the application saying they were going to file an inland application was the kiss of death for this application and guaranteed refusal (since it clearly demonstrated she wasn't a genuine visitor but rather moving to Canada).

Good luck to your friend. Hope he gets the outland application submitted soon.