Child Custody/Consent for Immigration Form?

[CanadianPrairieGent]

Ugh, it seems as if it is two steps forward and three steps back when it comes to Ukraine and dealing with notaries, translators, and government officials! Love the country and love the people . . . but the crap bureaucracy is driving my wife and I crazy!

I would appreciate your advice, please. My wife and step-daughter are in Ukraine, as we make an outbound application for PR. Our most recent obstacle is the Consent for Immigration form, right off of the CIC website, specific to Eastern Europe. My wife's ex-husband can't get any notaries to use the CIC document. It is the bloody Government of Canada document!!! What should we do? I'm a stickler for rules and doing things as the authorities set out, and I don't know what to do because Ukrianian authorities are getting in the way.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Strange that the notaries won't sign it. It shouldn't matter what the content is or where it is from; the notary is just confirming that the father is the person that has signed it.

Have the father type out his own letter stating what is on the form and see if a notary will sign that one.

 

[CanadianPrairieGent]

Ok, so after talking with my wife, her ex-husband can't find a notary to notarize the custody declaration because the notaries are all concerned that there is no indication on the declaration about where exactly this document is to go/who is requesting it. I'm not really sure why people in Ukraine are so worried about a document that Canada uses for people to immigrate to Canada. It's official, really, only for the purposes of the Canadian government and the CIC. Why are they so worried about what Canada requires, and in particular, since all notaries do is witness and attest to authentic signatures?

In looking at the Canadian document, I see the Ukrainian's point, and am a bit perplexed as to why it doesn't come on some type of official letterhead, or indicate that it is for CIC purposes. As I said previously, I'm a bit of a stickler for following the rules exactly, because I hear nothing about horror stories about the CIC and how it will delay and reject documents, so I am hesitant to alter a form that actually comes from the CIC website. Or, is it sufficient, and these notaries are being overly self-officious?

This is what the CIC declaration says.

DECLARATION
I, the undersigned, _____________________________________________________________________ authorize my son (daughter) _____________________________________________________________
to immigrate to Canada to live permanently with his(her) father(mother) ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________
I understand and accept that this will not oblige the Government of Canada to grant me admission to Canada in the future, either as a visitor or as an immigrant, unless I satisfy all the requirements of the Canadian
Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and Regulations in effect at that time. If this condition is not satisfied, I understand and accept that this may result in a permanent separation from my son (daughter).
Declared at ____________________________________ on ___________________________
Signature: _____________________________________
N.B.: This declaration must be witnessed either by a Notary Public

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Ah. Well, that is easily solved.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5604E.pdf

 

[CanadianPrairieGent]

Thanks so much canuck_in_uk! I don't know if I should laugh or cry. I'm being very careful in reading all of the info and downloading the right documents . . . or so I thought, but where on God's green earth did you find that and why isn't it included in the region specific forms (Eastern Europe) that I was told to print off?

What kind of voodoo magic are you using to find this stuff, and why are the CIC call centre reps (official gov't employees, who should know this stuff) so less helpful than the ordinary citizens of this forum? Maybe this is too much to ask, but is this form available in Russian or Ukrainian?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I'm not sure why the Eastern Europe guide had a different form.

No voodoo, just lots of experience on the forum.

There is only the English version. If he cannot find a notary that speaks English, perhaps he can have the form officially translated and then a notary will sign it.

 

[SKOKOV]

Hi guys,
I have same problem signing imm5604e with public notary in Russia.
How did you solve this issue?