Changing name after marridge spouse application(Please help regarding what to put as last name)

[parsaehtemali47]

Hello all
My wife has currently taken my last name since we have married and she has updated her ID as well as her msp .She is only assuming my last name ...we are not doing a legal change of name since you dont need to.Now she is the sponsor and i am the applicant.For all the forms ,do i need to write my last name(shes assuming my last name) or her actual last name on her canadian birth certificate?
Can i submit her new id with my last name as proof of address?
Also i worked part time during my studies and for imm 5569 form,How do i label my additional table for personal history file?
Thank you all for help

 

[armoured]

Hello all
My wife has currently taken my last name since we have married and she has updated her ID as well as her msp .She is only assuming my last name ...we are not doing a legal change of name since you dont need to.

That is a legal change of name, just through a different process. So yes, she should use her new name.

 

[parsaehtemali47]

That is a legal change of name, just through a different process. So yes, she should use her new name.

shes only assuming tho .her actual last name is still different.its weird to put her last name as mine in the forms since it looks like we are related....She is the sponsor ...So does it really matter?

 

[armoured]

shes only assuming tho .her actual last name is still different.its weird to put her last name as mine in the forms since it looks like we are related....She is the sponsor ...So does it really matter?

Again, assuming your name and using it to update her ID: that IS a legal change of name in most Canadian provinces.

And no, it is not unusual for a spouse to have the same last name as the spouse due to marriage.

 

[parsaehtemali47]

Again, assuming your name and using it to update her ID: that IS a legal change of name in most Canadian provinces.

And no, it is not unusual for a spouse to have the same last name as the spouse due to marriage.

Correct .its just that i have done all the documents in her actual name......her birth certificate and everything is in her name but her ID..i only thought this would be a problem if i was changing my last name as an applicant since they care about pr card not the sponsor.

 

[armoured]

Correct .its just that i have done all the documents in her actual name......her birth certificate and everything is in her name but her ID..i only thought this would be a problem if i was changing my last name as an applicant since they care about pr card not the sponsor.

I can't keep track of what docs you have changed. But if it's govt id, she has changed her name. That's now her actual name.

In Canada one basically does not change birth certificate after the fact, as far as I'm aware. (There are some exceptions like adoptions i think but not relevant here.)

But whatever you have done: pick a lane. If she only wants to use married name socially, it should not really go on any documents.

 

[parsaehtemali47]

I can't keep track of what docs you have changed. But if it's govt id, she has changed her name. That's now her actual name.

In Canada one basically does not change birth certificate after the fact, as far as I'm aware. (There are some exceptions like adoptions i think but not relevant here.)

But whatever you have done: pick a lane. If she only wants to use married name socially, it should not really go on any documents.

Correct.its weird tho because it says family name as shown exactly on passport but if the sponsor who is citizen doesnt have passport and has only birth certificate,what do you put then?one thing im afraid to put the new last name because it wont match the birth certificate and the other if i do put original name ,they might ask why are the signitures of the forms not with her new name...

 

[parsaehtemali47]

If anyone else has a take on this matter,Please reply
I am so confused as to what to write in the all forms..

 

[armoured]

Correct.its weird tho because it says family name as shown exactly on passport but if the sponsor who is citizen doesnt have passport and has only birth certificate,what do you put then?one thing im afraid to put the new last name because it wont match the birth certificate and the other if i do put original name ,they might ask why are the signitures of the forms not with her new name...

Surely the sponsor has other ID? What ID were you planning on submitting (birth certificate not enough). (Honestly never heard of a sponsor without a passport - have you considered having the sponsor ... get one?)

And seriously: you are confusing me with what you are saying - she should pick a name and STICK WITH THAT. Don't say 'actual name.' Current name, former/maiden name. Period.

 

[armoured]

im afraid to put the new last name because it wont match the birth certificate and the other if i do put original name ,they might ask why are the signitures of the forms not with her new name...

You understand that lots of people have names that don't match birth certificates, right? That's because ... they changed their names?

And it is not, at any rate, a problem. The 'change of name' documentation - what makes her assumption of your name a legal name change - is the marriage certificate. To show she is 'Barbara Newname', she shows birth certificate 'Barbara OldName', plus marriage certificate, plus new ID with 'Barbara NewName.' Would be easier if that doc is passport.

 

[parsaehtemali47]

Surely the sponsor has other ID? What ID were you planning on submitting (birth certificate not enough). (Honestly never heard of a sponsor without a passport - have you considered having the sponsor ... get one?)

And seriously: you are confusing me with what you are saying - she should pick a name and STICK WITH THAT. Don't say 'actual name.' Current name, former/maiden name. Period.

My wife(Sponsor) never travelled thus never had a passport.I was only providing the new goverment id with her new current last name to show proof of address as it asks in checklist.For proof of status of the sponsor ,The Canadian birth certificate is all you need i assume.She has a indian status card but that is in her previous /old name as she hasnt updated that.
And yes i completely agree with what you are saying.Its just that right now ,all the signitures of the documents are with old last name including all the forms whenever it asks for the sponsor last name.
Currently me and her are changing last name in all the forms and signiture to her current last name as you said.I also included in IMM 1344 ,that she had a previous maiden name which then i included her old last name.
Is it okay now?
Sorry about confusion and i appreciate your help.

 

[armoured]

Is it okay now?
Sorry about confusion and i appreciate your help.

I think it should all be fine, to show her citizenship: birth certificate, marriage certificate, doc with new name (whichever it is you have). To make it all clear you can include a letter of explanation - brief, factual.

You can consider making things easier, apply for a passport in person, if you get it in time, include a photocopy of that, if not, include a copy of the passport application receipt. (By the way, the Indian status card is a pretty good proof of identity, I think it's possible that all Status Indians in Canada are also Cdn citizens, but I don't know for sure).

And take a deep breath and relax - she won't be the first person to change name who hasn't got around to changing all documents, including while/before applying for sponsorship. Theyre not trying to catch people out on this, they just need to confirm identity etc.

 

[parsaehtemali47]

I think it should all be fine, to show her citizenship: birth certificate, marriage certificate, doc with new name (whichever it is you have). To make it all clear you can include a letter of explanation - brief, factual.

You can consider making things easier, apply for a passport in person, if you get it in time, include a photocopy of that, if not, include a copy of the passport application receipt. (By the way, the Indian status card is a pretty good proof of identity, I think it's possible that all Status Indians in Canada are also Cdn citizens, but I don't know for sure).

And take a deep breath and relax - she won't be the first person to change name who hasn't got around to changing all documents, including while/before applying for sponsorship. Theyre not trying to catch people out on this, they just need to confirm identity etc.

Thank you for your advice .Yes in the checklist it says, if you are native american and also canadian citizen by birth , you only need to submit one .You dont have to include both.
For passport advice,i dont think i can make it by time as i am considering to submit my application by tuesday.So far i have changed all the last names to the current (changed all the signitures of the forms) . so i think once they see the IMM 1344 (since i stated she had previous maiden name) or the marridge certificate, i hope the officer automatically understand that she is taking my last name and she is not related to me by family .. haha sorry sometimes i overthink of what the officer is gonna think .
Let me know if theres anything to add.
Thank you for helping me out regarding this cuz i was about to call CIC tmr and getting to an agent is extremely difficult.

 

[armoured]

so i think once they see the IMM 1344 (since i stated she had previous maiden name) or the marridge certificate, i hope the officer automatically understand that she is taking my last name and she is not related to me by family

I don't think there is going to be an issue with them thinking you're brother and sister BUT a short letter of explanation that recently changed name may help in terms of clearing up any confusion or incongruities that arise.