Changes in profile after receiving ITA... Urgent! Please help...

[d6k5d3]

My spouse and I received the ITA. I am the principal applicant. I worked as a banker for over 2 years, and then came to Canada for studies. Besides being a full-time student, I am a Graduate Teaching Assistant. My wife was also a banker for just over a year. After she had had her Open Work Permit, she came to Canada. She has been working in a call center for a few months.

We received points only for my work experience as a banker. Since I am full-time student, my part-time GTA experience doesn't count. I have all required supporting documents for my banking experience. However, my wife doesn't have any reference letter for any of the jobs. She only has appointment letters, a release letter (for previous job) and an experience letter (for previous job). These letters do not mention her job responsibilities.

While creating the profile we did not know that we would later have the opportunity to mention all work experiences in Personal History. We did not want to hide anything, and hence when CIC asked whether my wife has a work history, we said yes, and gave details of her 2 jobs. Now, after receiving ITA, we are in dilemma as CIC requires specific types of documents for her work experience.

Since her experience doesn't add any points at all, can we submit whatever documents we have to prove her experiences? Or, would it be okay to remove these experiences from her work history, and add them in personal history?

We are in desperate need of your expert opinion to make our dream come true. We appreciate your help so much!

 

[navinball]

move your spouse's work exp to personal history. many have done the same

 

[Gibacho]

Mentioning the spouses work experience in work history and then not providing ref letters can open your application for rejection for incomplete documentation. Instead mention in personal history - and explain in LOE. Even I am doing so - shall let you know in 5-6 months if that works - which it should.

 

[Peacekeeper87]

My spouse and I received the ITA. I am the principal applicant. I worked as a banker for over 2 years, and then came to Canada for studies. Besides being a full-time student, I am a Graduate Teaching Assistant. My wife was also a banker for just over a year. After she had had her Open Work Permit, she came to Canada. She has been working in a call center for a few months.

We received points only for my work experience as a banker. Since I am full-time student, my part-time GTA experience doesn't count. I have all required supporting documents for my banking experience. However, my wife doesn't have any reference letter for any of the jobs. She only has appointment letters, a release letter (for previous job) and an experience letter (for previous job). These letters do not mention her job responsibilities.

While creating the profile we did not know that we would later have the opportunity to mention all work experiences in Personal History. We did not want to hide anything, and hence when CIC asked whether my wife has a work history, we said yes, and gave details of her 2 jobs. Now, after receiving ITA, we are in dilemma as CIC requires specific types of documents for her work experience.

Since her experience doesn't add any points at all, can we submit whatever documents we have to prove her experiences? Or, would it be okay to remove these experiences from her work history, and add them in personal history?

We are in desperate need of your expert opinion to make our dream come true. We appreciate your help so much!

Adding to what's mentioned above.
If you leave her work experience in work history and do not upload reference letters or upload wrong documents, your application will be unnecessarily rejected for incompleteness. That would be a real bummer.
Move it all to personal history, and because it didn't give you any points at all in the first place, there is nothing wrong about it. Standard practice. The upload fields for her work XP will disappear, and you won't need to provide any document at all regarding her experience.

 

[d6k5d3]

@navinball , @Gibacho , @Peacekeeper87 ,

Thank you so much for freeing us from the anxiety! We really appreciate the support. We are going to do make the changes as per your advice.

 

[d6k5d3]

@navinball , @Gibacho , @Peacekeeper87 ,

One more thing I would like to ask as this is also a bit confusing. Before coming to Canada, I had my Police Clearance Certificate (PCC) for my study permit. I had the certificate in April, got my permit in May, and left for Canada in August. I went back home during Spring break, and definitely not stayed there more than 6 months. Please correct me if I would be wrong to say that CIC needs the PCC from countries where I stayed more than 6 months. As CIC asks me to submit the PCC for my PR, would it not be okay to submit the PCC I had for my study permit as after I had received the PCC, I did not stay there for more than 6 months during any of my visits?

 

[Peacekeeper87]

@navinball , @Gibacho , @Peacekeeper87 ,

One more thing I would like to ask as this is also a bit confusing. Before coming to Canada, I had my Police Clearance Certificate (PCC) for my study permit. I had the certificate in April, got my permit in May, and left for Canada in August. I went back home during Spring break, and definitely not stayed there more than 6 months. Please correct me if I would be wrong to say that CIC needs the PCC from countries where I stayed more than 6 months. As CIC asks me to submit the PCC for my PR, would it not be okay to submit the PCC I had for my study permit as after I had received the PCC, I did not stay there for more than 6 months during any of my visits?

For my reply, I'm going to safely assume you stayed more than 6 months in your home country, well because it's your home.

If I'm understanding correctly, you went back to your home country after the PCC was issued.

It won't be okay to submit the same PCC, as coming back to your home country has de facto voided the PCC (as far as Express Entry is concerned), because it needs to have been issued after your last visit.
The 6 months timeframe should not to be understood as "6 months per visit", and therefore the simple fact of you staying less than six months this last time doesn't cancel the fact that you did stay more than 6 months since the age of 18.
Your last trip to the country in question already counts towards your 6 months duration from the past.

 

[navinball]

You might not need a new pcc as the stay was not 6 months 'continuous'. But you could get a request later on for a new one. It's at the officers discretion.

 

[Peacekeeper87]

You might not need a new pcc as the stay was not 6 months 'continuous'. But you could get a request later on for a new one. It's at the officers discretion.

I have strong reservations about this...

Firstly, based on the address history, the system will of course generate an upload field for the PCC for home country. That's for sure.
But the certificate was issued in April, and applicant left the country in August.
IRCC website clearly states:
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For any other country, the police certificate must be issued after the last time you stayed there for 6 months or more in a row.

Some countries put expiry dates on their police certificates. If you have a police certificate that expired, include it. We’ll accept it if:

• it was issued after the last time you stayed there for 6 months or more in a row

• it is not for the country where you currently live

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Meaning it should be issued at least after August.

It's very safe to assume the application has a very high risk of rejection, considering the certificate was issued before the applicant left the country. Many cases on Immitracker attest to that.

Plus, he came back to the country after a few months, so in my opinion to be 100% sure, I'd say it should even be issued after this last visit. That's what I would do. Because although they say "in a row", in practice it seems they seem to apply the "cumulative" rule.

I think it's extremely risky to go ahead with the application with that PCC from April because it was issued before applicant left the country, with the strong possibility of straight rejection. I don't think a request for updated PCC will even be made at all.

My two cents...

 

[d6k5d3]

@Peacekeeper87 , Thank you so much for giving such a detailed reasoning!

 

[Viz1904]

Mentioning the spouses work experience in work history and then not providing ref letters can open your application for rejection for incomplete documentation. Instead mention in personal history - and explain in LOE. Even I am doing so - shall let you know in 5-6 months if that works - which it should.

Need update for the above query. Did it worked?

 

[d6k5d3]

Need update for the above query. Did it worked?

Yes, it works.