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welldone

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Islamabad/ London
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Urdu Nika Nama. Jan 14, 2015
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May 29, 2013
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June 1 2015
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June 1, 2015.
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Aug 6, 2015
Hi
Can sponsor submit application for spouse and live outside of Canada with spouse. My Cousin want to sponsor her husband living abroad she. can she submit application then move to Afghanistan and live there till her application process and then they will move in to Canada together? She does not have job history in Canada as she was student in the past. How this will work or even if this will be possible? She is planning to work in Afghanistan for the time she is with her husband.

Thanks for your input.
 
If she is a Canadian citizen - then yes.

If she is a PR - then no. She must live in Canada.
 
welldone said:
Hi
Can sponsor submit application for spouse and live outside of Canada with spouse. My Cousin want to sponsor her husband living abroad she. can she submit application then move to Afghanistan and live there till her application process and then they will move in to Canada together? She does not have job history in Canada as she was student in the past. How this will work or even if this will be possible? She is planning to work in Afghanistan for the time she is with her husband.

Thanks for your input.

From what I understand, she can sponsor from outside of Canada if she is a Citizen. What she will have to provide is proof of intent to come back to Canada and the ability to support her husband in Canada. Something like proof that she will have income when she comes back will be important (employment letter, etc). There are a lot of other factors so I defer to the wisdom of the other experts on this forum.
 
keesio said:
From what I understand, she can sponsor from outside of Canada if she is a Citizen. What she will have to provide is proof of intent to come back to Canada and the ability to support her husband in Canada. Something like proof that she will have income when she comes back will be important (employment letter, etc). There are a lot of other factors so I defer to the wisdom of the other experts on this forum.

Thank you all for your input. As you know her income in Afghanistan will be not equal to which she would have it in Canada when converted to Canadian $. Yes she is Canadian Citizen. If she decided would she still need to submit the out-land application? She can submit the application then she can leave? If any of you expert could break down the steps it will be helpful.

Thanks
 
welldone said:
As you know her income in Afghanistan will be not equal to which she would have it in Canada when converted to Canadian $.

They will want some kind of proof that she will have income when she comes back to Canada. The fact that she is working in Afghanistan now does not count. Canada immigration will want to know how she will support her husband when she is back living IN Canada.
 
welldone said:
Thank you all for your input. As you know her income in Afghanistan will be not equal to which she would have it in Canada when converted to Canadian $. Yes she is Canadian Citizen. If she decided would she still need to submit the out-land application? She can submit the application then she can leave? If any of you expert could break down the steps it will be helpful.

Thanks

I'm not an expert, but I will try to answer your questions.

Since her husband won't be with her in Canada, she must submit the application outland. She can submit the application while she lives in Canada or in Afghanistan, as she prefers.

The only reason they will look at her income is to see if she and her husband will be able to support themselves in Canada when they live here, without using welfare. For that they may look at education, employability, past work history, and ability in English or French. They look at this for both partners, since both partners will be able to work once they're in Canada. For most people, this is not a problem, but it can sometimes be a problem if one or both of them has been on welfare in the past, or if they have health problems preventing them from working, etc.
 
Thank you all for your input.
 
welldone said:
Hi
Can sponsor submit application for spouse and live outside of Canada with spouse. My Cousin want to sponsor her husband living abroad she. can she submit application then move to Afghanistan and live there till her application process and then they will move in to Canada together? She does not have job history in Canada as she was student in the past. How this will work or even if this will be possible? She is planning to work in Afghanistan for the time she is with her husband.

Thanks for your input.

If she is a citizen, it's not a problem sponsoring with her out of Canada. My husband lives with me in Romania and all we had to show to prove he will return is an invoice from a storage box he rented and left his belongings in. He wrote a personal statement about the reasons he has for moving back to Canada and that was all. He was approved as sponsor with no problems.

It's true that his Option C printout from the CRA had his earnings from Canada from the year before he moved here and he attached a certificate from his current employer from Romania. The first one showed he had a good job in Canada and the second that he had no problem finding employment when he came to Romania. I don't know how much these two papers factored in, maybe they didn't, maybe they did.
 
Betina said:
If she is a citizen, it's not a problem sponsoring with her out of Canada. My husband lives with me in Romania and all we had to show to prove he will return is an invoice from a storage box he rented and left his belongings in. He wrote a personal statement about the reasons he has for moving back to Canada and that was all. He was approved as sponsor with no problems.

It's true that his Option C printout from the CRA had his earnings from Canada from the year before he moved here and he attached a certificate from his current employer from Romania. The first one showed he had a good job in Canada and the second that he had no problem finding employment when he came to Romania. I don't know how much these two papers factored in, maybe they didn't, maybe they did.

One thing that I am thinking will cause some issue is her Canadian work experience as she was full-time student and never worked in Canada, CIC might object to that and will say it will be hard to get job when she return. Her husband has his own business in Afghanistan, so she is planning to go there and work with her husband. I dont know if his medicine business will be any plus point for them.
 
welldone said:
One thing that I am thinking will cause some issue is her Canadian work experience as she was full-time student and never worked in Canada, CIC might object to that and will say it will be hard to get job when she return. Her husband has his own business in Afghanistan, so she is planning to go there and work with her husband. I dont know if his medicine business will be any plus point for them.

I don't think they will use her lack of experience against her. After all, she was a full-time student, not an unemployed-living-on-welfare bum.

I strongly advise them to include a personal statement detailing what they plan to do in Canada. If it was me, I would write about where will they stay after arriving (with family or friends is the best, i think, because it shows a support system that will help in case of early financial needs), maybe mention keeping contact with some former colleagues of hers that are already employed in the same sector she wants to work in, write about what kind of jobs they will seek and what's their qualification and experience in that field. And definitely talk about her husbands experience as a successful business owner - even if he will not be able to have the same business in Canada, managing a business should still be a plus.
 
welldone said:
One thing that I am thinking will cause some issue is her Canadian work experience as she was full-time student and never worked in Canada, CIC might object to that and will say it will be hard to get job when she return. Her husband has his own business in Afghanistan, so she is planning to go there and work with her husband. I dont know if his medicine business will be any plus point for them.

It is possible, but not very likely that her not having worked will cause a problem. If she's never been on welfare, they probably won't look at this any further.

I think the fact her husband runs a business will be a positive. A person with a good work history at home is more likely to be successful in Canada than someone who's been unemployed. One thing that could help is if he learns some English or French (depending on where in Canada they're going). It probably won't help his application too much because they don't often refuse people on financial grounds anyway. However, it can only help him when he arrives in Canada.
 
frege said:
It is possible, but not very likely that her not having worked will cause a problem. If she's never been on welfare, they probably won't look at this any further.

I think the fact her husband runs a business will be a positive. A person with a good work history at home is more likely to be successful in Canada than someone who's been unemployed. One thing that could help is if he learns some English or French (depending on where in Canada they're going). It probably won't help his application too much because they don't often refuse people on financial grounds anyway. However, it can only help him when he arrives in Canada.

Thanks for your information. Yes she never been on welfare. Her husband is pharmacist and whole seller of medicine there.
 
welldone said:
Thanks for your information. Yes she never been on welfare. Her husband is pharmacist and whole seller of medicine there.

The husband should look into the requirements for becoming a pharmacist in the province they want to live in. Usually it takes a few more years of schooling when your credentials are from a foreign country.

Unfortunately, processing times at the Islamabad visa office are very long (16-32 months).

If he wants to be a pharmacist here, perhaps he should look at the possibility of beginning his studies at a Canadian university, and then applying inland. The tuition will be high for him (over $10,000 per year) as he will be a foreign student, but this would probably only be for the first year, because in some provinces you pay in-province tuition (as low as $2,500 in Quebec) as soon as you receive approval in principle for an inland sponsorship application (after about six months).

Edit:

I've found that there is a program at the University of Montreal for foreign pharmacists to become qualified in Quebec. It takes 16 months of studies:

http://www.opq.org/fr-CA/diplomes-hors-quebec/programme-d-appoint-pour-les-pharmaciens-formes-a-l-etranger/

The program is in French. You need to have prior approval from the Quebec Order of Pharmacists, and already be a citizen or permanent resident.

Outside Quebec, the process is entirely different. It seems the main requirement is to pass the PEBC exam.

http://www.pebc.ca/index.php/ci_id/3129/la_id/1.htm