Can a newborn Canadian citizen renounce the citizenship

[Godzilla9]

I was asked this question: Can a parent apply for newborn Canadian's citizenship renunciation? Or the baby must grow up to 18 and apply herself? Thank you

 

[scylla]

The answer is no.

You need to be at least 18 and you must do it yourself.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/renounce-eligibility.asp

 

[screech339]

I was asked this question: Can a parent apply for newborn Canadian's citizenship renunciation? Or the baby must grow up to 18 and apply herself? Thank you

No offense but why would someone want to renounce Canadian citizenship. It is one of the most sought after privilege people want. It is considered one of the most valuable citizenship even more valuable than US. I can understand American renouncing citizenship because of FATCA and being taxed on worldwide income regardless of where they live.

But Canadian citizenship? I would be very curious as to what someone would need to want to renounce Canadian citizenship.

 

[polara69]

I was asked this question: Can a parent apply for newborn Canadian's citizenship renunciation? Or the baby must grow up to 18 and apply herself? Thank you

No is the answer for a very good reason. Imagine you are the child your parents took away your Canadian citizenship.. I would have a hard time remaining friendly to my parents.

 

[kumbu.bumbu]

Born in Canada: Assume the new born is born to the parent who is not a Canadian citizen. Parent belongs to a country which does not accept dual citizenship. Parent can get the other country's citizenship/passport, then what is the status?

Born in other country: Other country does not accept dual citizenship. New born got the right to apply other country's citizenship/passport. Applied and got the other country's citizenship/passport. What is the status?

(I believe the child has to wait until 18 to get his/her Canadian citizenship, if needed)

 

[screech339]

No is the answer for a very good reason. Imagine you are the child your parents took away your Canadian citizenship.. I would have a hard time remaining friendly to my parents.

Not unless the child was being adopted internationally. The child would lose Canadian citizenship and be granted adopted parent's citizenship once it is officially completed.

 

[screech339]

Born in Canada: Assume the new born is born to the parent who is not a Canadian citizen. Parent belongs to a country which does not accept dual citizenship. Parent can get the other country's citizenship/passport, then what is the status?

Child would only have Canadian citizenship.

Born in other country: Other country does not accept dual citizenship. New born got the right to apply other country's citizenship/passport. Applied and got the other country's citizenship/passport. What is the status?

Can't really answer that well. Take India for example. India does not allow dual but child is born with Indian citizenship but has Canadian citizenship. So how does this work? It is not like the child took on another citizenship volunteerly. The child may have dual but India may only accept Indian citizenship. Once India sees that the child legally obtain canadian citizenship certificate and/or got Canada Passport, India can then revoke Indian citizenship.

(I believe the child has to wait until 18 to get his/her Canadian citizenship, if needed)

 

[polara69]

Not unless the child was being adopted internationally. The child would lose Canadian citizenship and be granted adopted parent's citizenship once it is officially completed.

So if I am a Canadian born child, being adopted by a, let's say French family, I would lose my Canadian citizenship? What happens when my French adoptive parent become Canadians, would I get my original citizenship back?

 

[screech339]

So if I am a Canadian born child, being adopted by a, let's say French family, I would lose my Canadian citizenship? What happens when my French adoptive parent become Canadians, would I get my original citizenship back?

No. You would have to apply for Canadian citizenship with the parents just as every other child applying for citizenship.

The law as stated says all links to Canadian citizenship is gone, the moment child is adopted internationally as if the child was born to the adopted parents.

 

[screech339]

If the adopted child was able to retain citizenship after being adopted overseas, everyone outside Canada would be adopting Canadian orphans. Parents can then be sponsored to Canada as PR when child turns into adult. Or parents may want their grandchildren to have Canadian citizenship by way of Canadian by Descent.

Same applied to those who got donated sperms / eggs through IVF. If the child was able to get Canadian citizenship by descent because of donors were Canadian, everyone outside Canada would be asking for Canadian donor eggs/sperm so that their born child would get Canadian citizenship.

The only way the child born outside Canada through IVF would be granted Canadian citizenship is if one of the parents has a genetic link to the child is Naturalized / Canadian born. There was a case not long ago whereby the child was born abroad through IVF through donated sperm not belonging to the one Canadian Born father. The child couldn't get Canadian citizenship due to lack of genetic link to the Canadian father. The father had to start PR paperwork for the newborn.

 

[polara69]

Thanks a lot, I learnt something today.

 

[kumbu.bumbu]

If the child is born in Canada he/she will be Canadian always. With a Canadian birth certificate child can apply at any time for Canadian passport (unless citizenship is renounced after he/she is 18).

He/She can be adopted get another county's (which do no accept dual citizenship) passport. It will not change the citizenship by birth.

 

[screech339]

He/She can be adopted get another county's (which do no accept dual citizenship) passport. It will not change the citizenship by birth.

You do realized that the country adoption procedure will not be completed or approved if the adopted Canadian child will not get citizenship of foreign adoptee parents. So when the child get final approval from both countries Canada and the adoptee country, Canada will make sure the child will only have the citizenship of adoptee parents and no ties to Canadian citizenship regardless of birth of place. The severed ties to Canadian citizenship will be one of the conditions of approval of Canadian child being adopted overseas. A lot of countries will want the same to their children being adopted in Canada. All ties to child's country will be severed and only have Canadian citizenship once approved.

 

[keesio]

Born in other country: Other country does not accept dual citizenship. New born got the right to apply other country's citizenship/passport. Applied and got the other country's citizenship/passport. What is the status?

(I believe the child has to wait until 18 to get his/her Canadian citizenship, if needed)

I think it depends on the country but usually you don't have to commit until 18.

For example I was born in the US to (at the time) South Korean citizens with US green cards. South Korea did not allow dual citizenship until only recently. I was a US citizen but I think I had some claim to South Korean citizenship which my parents had to officially renounce for me when I turned 18 when I had to make a choice between the US or South Korea.

 

[alphazip]

You do realized that the country adoption procedure will not be completed or approved if the adopted Canadian child will not get citizenship of foreign adoptee parents. So when the child get final approval from both countries Canada and the adoptee country, Canada will make sure the child will only have the citizenship of adoptee parents and no ties to Canadian citizenship regardless of birth of place. The severed ties to Canadian citizenship will be one of the conditions of approval of Canadian child being adopted overseas. A lot of countries will want the same to their children being adopted in Canada. All ties to child's country will be severed and only have Canadian citizenship once approved.

Screech, can you please provide a link to some official source where it is stated that a Canadian-born child loses his/her citizenship when adopted by a foreign citizen? While I see a good deal of information on foreign children being adopted by Canadians (and the procedure for them to obtain Canadian citizenship), I see nothing about Canadian children being adopted by non-Canadians, other than this on an adoption blog:

"Sorry, adoption of a Canadian child to Europe is not possible. Canada does not "export" (for lack of a better term) its children to other countries. Many provinces don't even allow inter-provincial adoption!"