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BOWP approved without attaching aor

Yagerr

Star Member
Aug 8, 2013
77
1
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-ottawa
NOC Code......
2242
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Mar. 20 2014
AOR Received.
April 9 2014
Med's Request
Oct. 4th 2014
Med's Done....
Oct. 9th 2014
Passport Req..
Nov. 10th 2014
Hi guys, this is just for your reference, coz i previously saw people saying VOs don't approve work permit if you don't attach AOR.

It is rumor, Visa officers will have to check GCMS notes based on operation bulletin-485, although some of which failed to do so, i even
see situations people applied with AOR attached, still rejected saying requiring AOR, so there are careless Visa officers, so it is very
important keep your application precise and organized.

Time line:
cec application sent mar.19th 2014,
work permit mailed out on mar. 21st 2014 without aor, received by cic on mar. 25th, 2014
April 14th, 2014 received AOR in email.
May 12th, 2014, received new BOWP in mail, Valid for 18 months

When I was writing explaination letter, I was planing to give a detailed explaination, then i feel that it may cause confusion to VO, or they might
not take time reading it so he will miss important point. So use one page simple letter, using phrases instead of sentence.

Just suggestions guys,
current processing time for AOR about 20 days,
paper application for work permit about 50 days.

when write your explaination letter, if you haven't received AOR, keep it precise.
 

cee12345

Hero Member
Dec 23, 2012
538
9
Toronto, Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC in Ottawa
NOC Code......
0114
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
May-12-2014 (Received in Ottawa on May-14-2014)
Doc's Request.
Sent PCC on Sep-4-2014 (without any request from CIC)
AOR Received.
June-25-2014
IELTS Request
Sent with Application
Med's Request
Dec-22-2014
Med's Done....
Dec-23-2014 (by Dr. Gabor Lantos - Uploaded via eMedical on Jan-13-2015. ECAS updated to Medical Received on Jan-16-2015)
Passport Req..
March 23, 2015 at 9:37PM (ECAS Status changed to Decision Made on March 24, 2015)
VISA ISSUED...
March 25, 2015
LANDED..........
May 10, 2015
Yagerr said:
Hi guys, this is just for your reference, coz i previously saw people saying VOs don't approve work permit if you don't attach AOR.

It is rumor, Visa officers will have to check GCMS notes based on operation bulletin-485, although some of which failed to do so, i even
see situations people applied with AOR attached, still rejected saying requiring AOR, so there are careless Visa officers, so it is very
important keep your application precise and organized.

Time line:
cec application sent mar.19th 2014,
work permit mailed out on mar. 21st 2014 without aor, received by cic on mar. 25th, 2014
April 14th, 2014 received AOR in email.
May 12th, 2014, received new BOWP in mail, Valid for 18 months

When I was writing explaination letter, I was planing to give a detailed explaination, then i feel that it may cause confusion to VO, or they might
not take time reading it so he will miss important point. So use one page simple letter, using phrases instead of sentence.

Just suggestions guys,
current processing time for AOR about 20 days,
paper application for work permit about 50 days.

when write your explaination letter, if you haven't received AOR, keep it precise.

Validity is 18 months? Thought BOWP are valid for 1 year?! hmmmm
 

Yagerr

Star Member
Aug 8, 2013
77
1
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-ottawa
NOC Code......
2242
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Mar. 20 2014
AOR Received.
April 9 2014
Med's Request
Oct. 4th 2014
Med's Done....
Oct. 9th 2014
Passport Req..
Nov. 10th 2014
cee12345 said:
Validity is 18 months? Thought BOWP are valid for 1 year?! hmmmm
Mine is good for 18 month.

I saw some people have it valid for 1 year,and i saw some people even received BOWP valid for 2 years.
 

orgchem

Star Member
Jan 6, 2014
84
0
Vancouver
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
15-11-2013
AOR Received.
22-12-2013
Yagerr said:
Hi guys, this is just for your reference, coz i previously saw people saying VOs don't approve work permit if you don't attach AOR.

It is rumor, Visa officers will have to check GCMS notes based on operation bulletin-485, although some of which failed to do so, i even
see situations people applied with AOR attached, still rejected saying requiring AOR, so there are careless Visa officers, so it is very
important keep your application precise and organized.

Time line:
cec application sent mar.19th 2014,
work permit mailed out on mar. 21st 2014 without aor, received by cic on mar. 25th, 2014
April 14th, 2014 received AOR in email.
May 12th, 2014, received new BOWP in mail, Valid for 18 months

When I was writing explaination letter, I was planing to give a detailed explaination, then i feel that it may cause confusion to VO, or they might
not take time reading it so he will miss important point. So use one page simple letter, using phrases instead of sentence.

Just suggestions guys,
current processing time for AOR about 20 days,
paper application for work permit about 50 days.

when write your explaination letter, if you haven't received AOR, keep it precise.
Congrats. People have got like this earlier too. They can check your AOR based on UCI.
 

LPS

Champion Member
Aug 7, 2013
1,250
37
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC-O
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-08-2013
AOR Received.
07-10-2013
Med's Request
07-03-2014
Med's Done....
26-03-2014
LANDED..........
09-04-2014
Congrats. Yes people have done this successfully, including me: see Got my BOWP approved without submitting AOR.

Yagerr said:
It is rumor, Visa officers will have to check GCMS notes based on operation bulletin-485, although some of which failed to do so, i even
see situations people applied with AOR attached, still rejected saying requiring AOR, so there are careless Visa officers, so it is very
important keep your application precise and organized.
We did see some people get refused for not "providing evidence" of an AOR, even when they had indeed been issued one, but usually those people also tried to apply for the BOWP with more than four months remaining on their work permit. So they were given two refusal reasons; only one was correct, but one is enough.

As you said, they are instructed to check GCMS for an AOR, and there's nothing in the bulletin or any of the relevant instructions about attaching it.

Yagerr said:
When I was writing explaination letter, I was planing to give a detailed explaination, then i feel that it may cause confusion to VO, or they might
not take time reading it so he will miss important point. So use one page simple letter, using phrases instead of sentence.
A BOWP is basically just an application for an open work permit. The point of the explanation letter is simply to explain why you are eligible to apply for an open work permit - that is, you are an applicant for permanent residence who meets the requirements in OB485-A. The application forms by themselves don't really capture this information.

Of course, if the requirement of a "positive eligibility assessment" is not met when you send the application, the trick here is to pretend otherwise, expecting that the AOR will have been sent by the time they start processing it.
 

thisisauser

Hero Member
Nov 23, 2012
726
46
Visa Office......
CPC-Ottawa
Yagerr said:
Hi guys, this is just for your reference, coz i previously saw people saying VOs don't approve work permit if you don't attach AOR.

It is rumor, Visa officers will have to check GCMS notes based on operation bulletin-485, although some of which failed to do so, i even
see situations people applied with AOR attached, still rejected saying requiring AOR, so there are careless Visa officers, so it is very
important keep your application precise and organized.

Time line:
cec application sent mar.19th 2014,
work permit mailed out on mar. 21st 2014 without aor, received by cic on mar. 25th, 2014
April 14th, 2014 received AOR in email.
May 12th, 2014, received new BOWP in mail, Valid for 18 months

When I was writing explaination letter, I was planing to give a detailed explaination, then i feel that it may cause confusion to VO, or they might
not take time reading it so he will miss important point. So use one page simple letter, using phrases instead of sentence.

Just suggestions guys,
current processing time for AOR about 20 days,
paper application for work permit about 50 days.

when write your explaination letter, if you haven't received AOR, keep it precise.
There is not and has never been an official requirement to attach AOR. It was just a recommendation when BOWP was NEW to avoid confusion.

At this point neither an extra letter nor the AOR is needed as attachment.
 

ljiljka007

Hero Member
Jan 3, 2013
423
4
Mississauga, ON
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
7305
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
13-05-2014
Doc's Request.
sent PCC for spouse on Oct 20, without request
AOR Received.
06/24/2014
IELTS Request
with application
Med's Request
17-06-2015
Med's Done....
08-07-2015
Passport Req..
30-07-2015
LANDED..........
17-08-2015
Yagerr said:
Hi guys, this is just for your reference, coz i previously saw people saying VOs don't approve work permit if you don't attach AOR.

It is rumor, Visa officers will have to check GCMS notes based on operation bulletin-485, although some of which failed to do so, i even
see situations people applied with AOR attached, still rejected saying requiring AOR, so there are careless Visa officers, so it is very
important keep your application precise and organized.

Time line:
cec application sent mar.19th 2014,
work permit mailed out on mar. 21st 2014 without aor, received by cic on mar. 25th, 2014
April 14th, 2014 received AOR in email.
May 12th, 2014, received new BOWP in mail, Valid for 18 months

When I was writing explaination letter, I was planing to give a detailed explaination, then i feel that it may cause confusion to VO, or they might
not take time reading it so he will miss important point. So use one page simple letter, using phrases instead of sentence.

Just suggestions guys,
current processing time for AOR about 20 days,
paper application for work permit about 50 days.

when write your explaination letter, if you haven't received AOR, keep it precise.
Great news for You, congrats! I was thinking to do the same thing, since I applied for PR on May13 and my work permit expires on May31. But seems like they really slow down proccesing applications and giving AOR. April applicant still didnt receive it, even those who applied more then 25 days ago. So now I dont know what to do, should I risk applying without AOR and hope that I'd receive it in 30 days at least..
 

arowberry

Hero Member
Nov 25, 2012
491
36
Calgary
Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney, Nova Scotia
NOC Code......
1254
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-03-2014
AOR Received.
04-04-2014
Med's Request
26-09-2014
Med's Done....
03-10-2014
LANDED..........
27-11-2014
Just wanted to add that I also received my BOWP having applied under similar conditions. My time line is/was:

  • Applied for CEC PR March 10, 2014
  • Applied for BOWP by mail without AOR March 28, 2014.
  • Second IEC visa expired April 2, 2014.
  • Received AOR April 4, 2014 (19 days).
  • Received BOWP May 8, 2014 (41 days)

For the first time in 2014 I am not sweating with visa worries, yay! My BOWP is valid for 1 year.
 

seikokimura

Star Member
Oct 16, 2017
63
4
Hi guys, this is just for your reference, coz i previously saw people saying VOs don't approve work permit if you don't attach AOR.

It is rumor, Visa officers will have to check GCMS notes based on operation bulletin-485, although some of which failed to do so, i even
see situations people applied with AOR attached, still rejected saying requiring AOR, so there are careless Visa officers, so it is very
important keep your application precise and organized.

Time line:
cec application sent mar.19th 2014,
work permit mailed out on mar. 21st 2014 without aor, received by cic on mar. 25th, 2014
April 14th, 2014 received AOR in email.
May 12th, 2014, received new BOWP in mail, Valid for 18 months

When I was writing explaination letter, I was planing to give a detailed explaination, then i feel that it may cause confusion to VO, or they might
not take time reading it so he will miss important point. So use one page simple letter, using phrases instead of sentence.

Just suggestions guys,
current processing time for AOR about 20 days,
paper application for work permit about 50 days.

when write your explaination letter, if you haven't received AOR, keep it precise.
Same case here! When you mailed your docs and application form for BOWP without an AOR, were you considered in an implied status?
 

seikokimura

Star Member
Oct 16, 2017
63
4
Just wanted to add that I also received my BOWP having applied under similar conditions. My time line is/was:

  • Applied for CEC PR March 10, 2014
  • Applied for BOWP by mail without AOR March 28, 2014.
  • Second IEC visa expired April 2, 2014.
  • Received AOR April 4, 2014 (19 days).
  • Received BOWP May 8, 2014 (41 days)

For the first time in 2014 I am not sweating with visa worries, yay! My BOWP is valid for 1 year.
For your BOWP, what were the docs you had mailed them?