Birth in Canada

[codeart313]

Hi all,

I'm sorry if this question was answered a million times, but I'm trying to find an up to date answer.

Me and my wife are planing to have our baby born in Canada. My wife just received her TRV visa which allows her to stay up to 6 month and I'm travelin on my eTA.

My question is, if the baby is born on Canadian soil is he a Canadian citizen and if so can he claim Canadian passport straight away or does he need to wait till he is 18 years old.

If he can, maybe someone knows how long is the process for that. We actually want him to get the passport after, that we want to travel back to our country.

Me and my wife know that it doesn't change our status or increase our chances for PRV etc. We are actually planing to move later, couple years after birth, so we are trying to figure it out, because when we return in couple years after child birth we want him to have insurance and other perks.

Once again, I'm sorry for posting this thread, but it would be nice to have up-to-date answers.

 

[scylla]

He'll be a citizen at birth and entitled to a passport at birth. I assume you've already pre-planned the financial side of things and have money set aside to pay for a regular birth (which should run between $5K and $10K). If there are complications, the cost of the birth can run well over $10K. Note that women who are visibly pregnant can be denied entry into Canada if CIC feels their primary reason for coming is to have a child in Canada. Factor that into your planning.

Lastly, assuming your child returns to Canada in the future, you should note that he/she won't have access to health care coverage immediately but will need to reside in Canada for three months before coverage kicks in. Anything during those three months you'll either have to pay for out of pocket or purchase private insurance to cover.

 

[Bs65]

Also of course as visitors there is no guarantee of being given a 6 month stay when arriving if cannot show any sort of itinerary or funding for such a long visit , that applies whether on a TRV or visa exempt.

Plus even after the birth there will possibly be a period of time both to get a passport in terms of processing unless expedited and also a period before a commercial airline might accept a recent new born so need to factor that in as well as the birth costs. Keep in mind travel insurance will not cover anything at all if any complications for the mother even less so for in effect birth tourism.

Process here for passports http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/passport/child/

 

[Rob_TO]

Hi all,

I'm sorry if this question was answered a million times, but I'm trying to find an up to date answer.

Me and my wife are planing to have our baby born in Canada. My wife just received her TRV visa which allows her to stay up to 6 month and I'm travelin on my eTA.

My question is, if the baby is born on Canadian soil is he a Canadian citizen and if so can he claim Canadian passport straight away or does he need to wait till he is 18 years old.

If he can, maybe someone knows how long is the process for that. We actually want him to get the passport after, that we want to travel back to our country.

Me and my wife know that it doesn't change our status or increase our chances for PRV etc. We are actually planing to move later, couple years after birth, so we are trying to figure it out, because when we return in couple years after child birth we want him to have insurance and other perks.

Once again, I'm sorry for posting this thread, but it would be nice to have up-to-date answers.

Note that even though your child will be Canadian, they may not have any access to provincial healthcare after birth since you the parents are not resident and are not eligible, so won't satisfy the healthcare residency obligation. This would also apply if you come to Canada later as visitors, your baby may not be eligible at all for healthcare. Each province has different rules so need to check.

This has happened to other "birth tourists". There was a case a few years ago from an Australian couple traveling in BC who had a baby who was sick at birth and needed to go to postnatal care for an extended time. Since baby was not eligible for healthcare, the couple faced a $1 Million bill at the end which they are now paying for the rest of their life.

When you say "planning to move later", do you mean applying for PR under an economic stream? Of course having a Canadian baby will offer zero advantage to immigrating. Also even if baby is not Canadian, if you qualify for PR you can simply add the baby into your own PR app.

 

[codeart313]

Thank you all so much for your replies.

Regarding birth and expenses, we did calculated the estimates for everything, so we should be good on that side. The only true danger I can possible see is if there is going to be a health isues with baby after birth or with my wife. Other than that we are fully covered, checked airlines and everything.

Regarding the length of the stay, we shouldn't have any problems either because it's more of the business trip, we tend to travel a lot. We have the invitation from a companies and everything is well prepared, so i don't think we will have any problems there. Of-course, you can never be sure, but we are trying to be as thorough as possible.

Most of the important things are taken care of.

Regarding moving later, yes we will apply to PR, we have couple of choices there, but because we still have couple of years to go I didn't research that area quite well, so for now i'm fresh and unprepared for that, but one thing I know for sure is that baby won't give us any advantages and we are fine with that.

By any chance maybe anyone know how long does it take to acquire a passport for the baby and if there is an expedite solution and if so what would be the approximate price for that.

Once again, thank you for helping me out here.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Why would you take this risk if you plan on immigrating in a few years anyways? The child being Canadian won't speed up access to "insurance and other perks" when you move to Canada.

 

[Rob_TO]

Right having a baby who's a citizen will not give any additional benefits vs a baby who's PR. Both have same access to healthcare, child benefits, etc etc. And if you get PR you and the baby can become citizens anyways later on.

Only benefit whatsoever is if you don't think you'll be successful in qualifying for PR later, at least your child will be Canadian.

 

[Bs65]

Thank you all so much for your replies.

Regarding birth and expenses, we did calculated the estimates for everything, so we should be good on that side. The only true danger I can possible see is if there is going to be a health isues with baby after birth or with my wife. Other than that we are fully covered, checked airlines and everything.

Regarding the length of the stay, we shouldn't have any problems either because it's more of the business trip, we tend to travel a lot. We have the invitation from a companies and everything is well prepared, so i don't think we will have any problems there. Of-course, you can never be sure, but we are trying to be as thorough as possible.

Most of the important things are taken care of.

Regarding moving later, yes we will apply to PR, we have couple of choices there, but because we still have couple of years to go I didn't research that area quite well, so for now i'm fresh and unprepared for that, but one thing I know for sure is that baby won't give us any advantages and we are fine with that.

By any chance maybe anyone know how long does it take to acquire a passport for the baby and if there is an expedite solution and if so what would be the approximate price for that.

Once again, thank you for helping me out here.

All the details you need about passport applications are here including processing times http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/passport/child/index.asp

Although you sound confident on the business side a 6 month business trip with a pregnant wife could raise a few flags that you intend to work in Canada and not just attend a few meetings which would be the definition of a business trip usually a matter of a few weeks maximum.

Plus of course add in any complications if any of dual citizenship in home country if born abroad.

Anyway your decision/ choice all anyone can do here is to point out the potential risks which should not be underestimated.

 

[canuck78]

Am I the only one who has a real problem with this thread. I am hoping birth tourism is on the government's radar because it seems more and more frequent and blatant.

 

[carolbb23]

Am I the only one who has a real problem with this thread. I am hoping birth tourism is on the government's radar because it seems more and more frequent and blatant.

People from certain counteries think if their babies are born in Canada is status symbol back home