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Background check on passport entries & exit dates by CIC/Province

0127

Newbie
Mar 11, 2016
7
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I am planning to lodge Express Entry file soon but not clear about one thing.

My actual summary-

Apr 1998 - Apr 2001 --- completed Bachelor of Commerce
Oct 2002 - Jan 2005 --- on work permit to Dubai (visa stamp as Cashier)
Mar 2006 - Sep 2009 --- on student visa to Australia (university degree completed successfully)
Oct 2009 - Dec 2014 --- lived in Australia illegally without visa
At the end of January 2015 --- landed in India
--- my passport holds student visa stamp gets expire in December 2012. I did not apply for renewal due to lack of valid visa. ---

In January 2015 I presented myself to Australian Immigration (AI) office to depart Australia permanently. AI granted my request and let me go by myself. So rather than getting deported I left Australia voluntarily, on called Emergency Certificate issued by Indian Embassy and Bridging visa E issued by AI.

After I landed in India I applied for new passport to passport office and now have valid passport without any restrictions. But in doing this I had to file an affidavit to passport office stating above timeline from 2006 to 2015.

My Questions ---

(1) Now I come to know from internet that overstaying in Australia on student visa will not make any problem (saying no negative effect on character) in terms of applying for Express Entry program to Canada, Is this True?


(2) What if i lodge Express Entry file as --

Apr 1998 - Apr 2001 --- Bachelor of Commerce
May 2001 - currently working --- on my NOC listed profession

Will above documentation make CIC/province to crosscheck my passport history/entries with my local passport office, since I will not be attaching my old passport (which has Australian student visa stamp) with my application? (pls remember that my new passport has no restriction on that whatsoever, apart from stating old passport number on last page. That old passport number is there as part of standard procedure.)


(3) What if i lodge Express Entry file as --

Apr 1998 - Apr 2001 --- completed Bachelor of Commerce
Oct 2002 - Jan 2005 --- on work permit to Dubai (visa stamp as Cashier)
Mar 2006 - Sep 2009 --- on student visa to Australia (university degree completed successfully)
Nov 2009 - currently working --- on my NOC listed profession

Will above documentation make CIC/province to crosscheck the "exit date" stamp from Australian Immigration. Since I will be writing random date of October 2009 as departure date from Australia but will not be attaching any documentation for that?
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singh_maninder

Hero Member
Jan 5, 2016
284
48
Its a bold step you are going to take . I am following this forum from the past 3-4 month, I come across that, do not play with the immigration department people . If they want to get the information they will dig 2000 feet to get the actual thing .

If for misrepresentation you get banned from Canada, then this will create more hurdles applying to other countries . This is my point of view, seniors can guide you accurately on this issue .
 

0127

Newbie
Mar 11, 2016
7
0
singh_maninder said:
Its a bold step you are going to take . I am following this forum from the past 3-4 month, I come across that, do not play with the immigration department people . If they want to get the information they will dig 2000 feet to get the actual thing .

If for misrepresentation you get banned from Canada, then this will create more hurdles applying to other countries . This is my point of view, seniors can guide you accurately on this issue .
Thanks for your reply. I will take note of that. I am still expecting advice from seniors.
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
5,422
274
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
0127 said:
Thanks for your reply. I will take note of that. I am still expecting advice from seniors.
Firstly, you overstayed a visa by a substantial amount of time. As you had no conviction (or ban from Australia, I assume) then Canada cannot hold it against you. HOWEVER, they will check your history and cross reference it. It is best to lay all of your cards on the table here.

If you really want to hide or cover up what you have done you will only get away with it if all officers looking at your application are suffering from personal stress, say, a divorce, haven't slept in weeks and are planning on quitting CIC soon.

In short, do not lie or withhold information. Withholding information carries the same penalty of misrepresentation as all out lying.
 

BC4life

Hero Member
Nov 5, 2015
583
136
Toronto, ON
Visa Office......
HKVO
NOC Code......
0125
Nomination.....
06-10-2016
AOR Received.
07-12-2016
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
19-12-2016
Passport Req..
28-02-2017
VISA ISSUED...
09-03-2017
LANDED..........
XX-07-2017
Don't forget that you have to provide a police certificate from Australia
 

Bs65

VIP Member
Mar 22, 2016
13,187
2,420
0127 said:
Thanks for your reply. I will take note of that. I am still expecting advice from seniors.
So it is your intent for the period 2009 to end 2014 to either say you were living in Australia legally, a lie OR to imply all that time you were actually in India, another lie.

As per previous post you are planning to misrepresent yourself, making a statutory declaration on your application that your application is true and accurate. True you may not get found out but ultimately if you are found out then you can possbily forget ever gaining PR or eventually citizenship.

Ultimately is your decision what path to follow be truthful explaining any extenuating circumstances and hope for the best or outright misrepresent yourself in your application by leaving out the overstay and even then trying to cover it up by replacing your passport.

Seniors advice or not I doubt anyone on this forum would recommend the path your are suggesting given the potential outcome should you somehow found out by some link such as an Australian police certificate for the time you were in Australia legally and illegally. Maybe even paying taxes during the illegal overstay ? Plus are you sure that having overstayed in Australia that you do not have any long term restriction to be able to ever even return to Australia should you wish to in the future as they are usually pretty strict on overstayers more so than Canada something else to consider in PR application.
 

kryt0n

VIP Member
Sep 30, 2014
5,422
274
NOC Code......
2172
AOR Received.
16-03-2017
Passport Req..
11-07-2017
Hey, go for it, apply how you like. The overwhelming recommendation will be to declare everything and hope for the best. However, as you clearly were happy to work illegally for 5 years I can imagine being truthful in this application doesn't come naturally to you.
 

LizzyBob

Hero Member
Nov 26, 2015
221
57
NOC Code......
2145
0127 said:
I am planning to lodge Express Entry file soon but not clear about one thing.

My actual summary-

Apr 1998 - Apr 2001 --- completed Bachelor of Commerce
Oct 2002 - Jan 2005 --- on work permit to Dubai (visa stamp as Cashier)
Mar 2006 - Sep 2009 --- on student visa to Australia (university degree completed successfully)
Oct 2009 - Dec 2014 --- lived in Australia illegally without visa
At the end of January 2015 --- landed in India
--- my passport holds student visa stamp gets expire in December 2012. I did not apply for renewal due to lack of valid visa. ---

In January 2015 I presented myself to Australian Immigration (AI) office to depart Australia permanently. AI granted my request and let me go by myself. So rather than getting deported I left Australia voluntarily, on called Emergency Certificate issued by Indian Embassy and Bridging visa E issued by AI.

After I landed in India I applied for new passport to passport office and now have valid passport without any restrictions. But in doing this I had to file an affidavit to passport office stating above timeline from 2006 to 2015.

My Questions ---

(1) Now I come to know from internet that overstaying in Australia on student visa will not make any problem (saying no negative effect on character) in terms of applying for Express Entry program to Canada, Is this True?


(2) What if i lodge Express Entry file as --

Apr 1998 - Apr 2001 --- Bachelor of Commerce
May 2001 - currently working --- on my NOC listed profession

Will above documentation make CIC/province to crosscheck my passport history/entries with my local passport office, since I will not be attaching my old passport (which has Australian student visa stamp) with my application? (pls remember that my new passport has no restriction on that whatsoever, apart from stating old passport number on last page. That old passport number is there as part of standard procedure.)


(3) What if i lodge Express Entry file as --

Apr 1998 - Apr 2001 --- completed Bachelor of Commerce
Oct 2002 - Jan 2005 --- on work permit to Dubai (visa stamp as Cashier)
Mar 2006 - Sep 2009 --- on student visa to Australia (university degree completed successfully)
Nov 2009 - currently working --- on my NOC listed profession

Will above documentation make CIC/province to crosscheck the "exit date" stamp from Australian Immigration. Since I will be writing random date of October 2009 as departure date from Australia but will not be attaching any documentation for that?
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Here's my advice,

Be honest in your application! From what I have heard, CIC does not penalize applicants who over stayed in another country, so long as you were given at least 1 year of legal entry at the beginning of your stay in that country (you are free to confirm this info with immigration lawyers/consultants). Since you entered as a student for more than one year, you should be ok! See below link with some similar stories, the guy called "SFD" was even deported from USA for overstaying, but he still got his Canada Immigration approved.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/got-deported-from-usa-t39015.0.html


So dont be afraid, Just declare what happened honestly and include a letter of explanation to that effect. I can assure you that CIC will find out about it during your background-check anyway, your police report from that country will say you overstayed, but as long as you didnt commit any crime you should be fine.

Hope this helps and Goodluck!