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[dubaitotoronto]

Hi,

I have read your posts regarding gaps and applying under general category instead of SPP.

I was planning to apply under SPP for Jan 2013 intake, after reading your posts I think general would be better for me.

I have 11 years gap after my studies. I plan to apply for one year strategic relationship marketing at George Brown College, Toronto.

My graduation is Bsc Computer Science but I have 4 years work experience in Dubai in sales & marketing, do u think the course I selected is good for getting visa?

2. I live in Dubai not in India, and I dont have any ITR. How can I solve this issue (I heard that if I apply from UAE the rejection rate is more thats why I am applying from India)

3. Awaiting your valuable suggestions

 

[tiger007]

Hi,

I have read your posts regarding gaps and applying under general category instead of SPP.

I was planning to apply under SPP for Jan 2013 intake, after reading your posts I think general would be better for me.

I have 11 years gap after my studies. I plan to apply for one year strategic relationship marketing at George Brown College, Toronto.

My graduation is Bsc Computer Science but I have 4 years work experience in Dubai in sales & marketing, do u think the course I selected is good for getting visa?

2. I live in Dubai not in India, and I dont have any ITR. How can I solve this issue (I heard that if I apply from UAE the rejection rate is more thats why I am applying from India)

3. Awaiting your valuable suggestions

Hi,

In my opinion, those who have score of below 50% in their last major degree/diploma and have more than 3-5 years gap... should definitely NOT apply under SPP.
Besides, apart from less paperwork, there's not much difference in applying via General stream for Indian nationals.

In your case, your most recent work ex, and the field in which your work ex is longest, should be taken into consideration, rather than just your Bachelor's degree, which was a long time ago.
If your present occupation is related to Sales& marketing/Marketing Management/advertising/related field, then 1 year strategic relationship marketing programme at George Brown College, Toronto is an excellent choice.

The UAE does not have any federal income tax on wages or salaries. I'm sure CHC is aware of this fact. If you have been working for past 11 years in Dubai, UAE, you will have to find ways to show CHC, that you have enough money, financially established by showing salary certificates from current and previous employers. The best and preferred way is to get an educational loan form a recognized Indian bank for amount equivalent to ATLEAST 80% of 1st year tuition fees +1 year living expenses +travel expenses. Under General category, if you show an educational loan and salary certificates proving you have enough capital to finance your studies in Canada, then it should not be a problem. In case, you are unable to show an approved loan, you will have to give more documents to prove your financial strength, and given in UAE you don't have ITR records... it may be difficult.

General Canadian study visa Application checklist:
http://www.vfs-canada.co.in/pdf/study_permit_17-05-2012.pdf

What I believe is.. if an applicant's profile is strong(good academic, valuable/relevant/consistent work experience,good IELTS), proper course selection and proof of financial strength (best is educational loan+ salary certificates/ITR etc. for general stream), then all of this indicates that the applicant is a bona fide student, and he/she should not have any problems getting the Canadian study visa.

I cannot comment on the last part.. as if the rejection rate will be higher or lower if you apply form Dubai or India... but I personally feel, since you are an Indian passport holder and not a permanent resident of Dubai ( also given the fact that foreign workers cannot have any sought of permanent residence in Dubai, and which I'm sure CHC is aware of...), you should apply from India.

Hope it helps.

Best of Luck.

***All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too.

 

[avd91]

Hi,
I've completed my B.E in Electronics and telecommunication this year securing 65% average.
10th- 93%
12th- 88%
No backlogs.
I am applying for the Database Application Developer course in Seneca college for the Jan '13 intake.
Other option provided to me being Lambton college (Although it's a 2 year course the reviews for the college are very bad) The course they are providing is a Graduate certificate course in IT and web design.
* I want opinions of people who have gone to either colleges and/or the corresponding courses.
* I want to know whether the change in streams from EXTC to IT will pose a threat to get a visa.
* Are Job opportunities available for these courses?
Kindly help. Thanks

 

[dubaitotoronto]

Thank you very much TIGER007 for your reply. I appreciate your help and it really did help me. Guys like you are saying that goodness is not dried out among humans!.

Please help me with these also;

I have decided to go with applying under general category, even though I have 65% marks in Bsc Computer science but because of the 11 years gap.

1. My 11 years gap is like this: 5 years in India (1 year computer science teaching + 1 year software testing + 3 years BPO) and 4 years in Dubai (Sales & Marketing) and 2 years nothing in particular. With this kind of experience do you think Strategic Relationship Marketing is a good option for me? Do you have any other suggestions?

2. For showing financial proof I plan like this: Total one year fee is $12000. I will pay first semester fee from my savings. INR 9 Lakh I will show as education loan against Fixed Deposit. Is this okay? Do I need to show any other documents like Bank Statement or property docs anything like that?

3. I am really thinking what can I show as an alternative for ITR.

Awaiting your reply.

Thanks in advance.

 

[tiger007]

Thank you very much TIGER007 for your reply. I appreciate your help and it really did help me. Guys like you are saying that goodness is not dried out among humans!.

Please help me with these also;

I have decided to go with applying under general category, even though I have 65% marks in Bsc Computer science but because of the 11 years gap.

1. My 11 years gap is like this: 5 years in India (1 year computer science teaching + 1 year software testing + 3 years BPO) and 4 years in Dubai (Sales & Marketing) and 2 years nothing in particular. With this kind of experience do you think Strategic Relationship Marketing is a good option for me? Do you have any other suggestions?

2. For showing financial proof I plan like this: Total one year fee is $12000. I will pay first semester fee from my savings. INR 9 Lakh I will show as education loan against Fixed Deposit. Is this okay? Do I need to show any other documents like Bank Statement or property docs anything like that?

3. I am really thinking what can I show as an alternative for ITR.

Awaiting your reply.

Thanks in advance.

Hi,

1. Please be clear. What exactly is your present occupation? As I said, In your case, your most recent work ex, and the field in which your work ex is longest, should be taken into consideration.
If your present occupation is related to Sales& marketing/Marketing Management/advertising/related field,
i.e If your immediate/current occupation is -- 4 years in Dubai (Sales & Marketing), then 1 year strategic relationship marketing programme at George Brown College, Toronto is an excellent choice.
But, If your immediate/current occupation is -- 2 years nothing in particular, then I'm afraid... getting a study permit will be difficult for you.
The question comes, what you were doing for past 2 years? Just because you were doing nothing in particular, so you are planning to run to Canada? This clearly kind of indicates, you are not a genuine student.. who is just looking a way out of Dubai... and this
looks bad on paper, doesn't matter what your real intentions are! Nevertheless, if you have say a particular job in this period of 2 years... you can try to find a course related to that.

2. If your course fees is 12,000$. then you will need to show an educational loan amount equivalent to atleast 80% of 12,000$+8,000$ (for living expenses)+2,000$ (better to show more as travel expenses) or 80% of 22,000$= 17,600$ or 9.85 lacs INR. Even though on checklist it is mentioned, that one needs to show only 80% of 1st year tuition fees +8,000$. But if you check the CIC website, they have clearly mentioned that one needs to have minimum 10,000$/Annum as living expenses(more for Quebec).
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/study-how-documents.asp
SO, personally.. I would reccomend: get an approved educational loan form 1 of the recognized banks for amount equivalent to: 80% of 12,000$+10,000$(living)+2,000$(travel) or 80% of 24,000$ = 19,200$ or 10.75 lacs INR.

3. What about ITR for the 1st 5 years you worked in India?
As I said, try to get Salary certificates form your current and previous employers, employment appointment letters+work experience. Anything and everything, which will prove authenticity to your employment record will be helpful. Apart form that, if you can show property papers in India(which proves you are financially well off) will be an added advantage. You can mention on your SOP clearly that in recent times, since you are in Dubai.. and the UAE does not have any federal income tax on wages or salaries, hence youa re providing alternative proofs such as salary certificates etc.

Overall, if your recent occupation is stable/sales& marketing, then by providing adequate supporting documents (including ITR for 1st 5 years in India) and attaching a good , precises, to the point short 1-1.5 pages SOP as to why you want to go to Canada, why you want to pursue this course and how it will help you in your career and future development... then..I think..you've got a good shot in getting the visa.

Hope it helps.

Best of Luck.

***All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too.

 

[dubaitotoronto]

Thank you very much Tiger007 for your reply. It really did help me.


The work experience I mentioned as '2 years nothing in particular' was the two years just after my graduation, currently I am working as Sales Coordinator with a firm here in Dubai for the last 4 years.

I dont have ITR for the first 5 years experience in India. I hope that wont be a problem.

I understood the core idea of your post. I will work on my profile to make it genuine.

The greatest help you did to me is prompting me to consider GENERIC instead of SPP. Until I read your post all my attention was on SPP procedures.

Again thanks a lot. thanks for your time. I appreciate it.

 

[avd91]

Hey Tiger 007 it'd be great if you could help me with my query.

Hi,
I've completed my B.E in Electronics and telecommunication this year securing 65% average.
10th- 93%
12th- 88%
No backlogs.
I am applying for the Database Application Developer course in Seneca college for the Jan '13 intake.
Other option provided to me being Lambton college (Although it's a 2 year course the reviews for the college are very bad) The course they are providing is a Graduate certificate course in IT and web design.
* I want opinions of people who have gone to either colleges and/or the corresponding courses.
* I want to know whether the change in streams from EXTC to IT will pose a threat to get a visa.
* Are Job opportunities available for these courses?
Kindly help. Thanks

 

[tiger007]

Thank you very much Tiger007 for your reply. It really did help me.


The work experience I mentioned as '2 years nothing in particular' was the two years just after my graduation, currently I am working as Sales Coordinator with a firm here in Dubai for the last 4 years.

I dont have ITR for the first 5 years experience in India. I hope that wont be a problem.

I understood the core idea of your post. I will work on my profile to make it genuine.

The greatest help you did to me is prompting me to consider GENERIC instead of SPP. Until I read your post all my attention was on SPP procedures.

Again thanks a lot. thanks for your time. I appreciate it.

Hi,

In that case go for 1year strategic relationship marketing programme at George Brown College, Toronto.
If not ITR, try to make your profile by scoring high in IELTS, and overall application package genuine by providing adequate supporting documents.

Best of Luck.

 

[tiger007]

Hey Tiger 007 it'd be great if you could help me with my query.

Hi,
I've completed my B.E in Electronics and telecommunication this year securing 65% average.
10th- 93%
12th- 88%
No backlogs.
I am applying for the Database Application Developer course in Seneca college for the Jan '13 intake.
Other option provided to me being Lambton college (Although it's a 2 year course the reviews for the college are very bad) The course they are providing is a Graduate certificate course in IT and web design.
* I want opinions of people who have gone to either colleges and/or the corresponding courses.
* I want to know whether the change in streams from EXTC to IT will pose a threat to get a visa.
* Are Job opportunities available for these courses?
Kindly help. Thanks

Hi,

The profile and course selection looks good. You could have tried for M.eng/M.asc in your area of study/related field... in universities like Memorial Univ., Newfoundland, University of Regina etc., which accept 1st class degree holders. You should do some more research and find similar Master courses in universities by checking out individual university websites and contacting individual departments,present your profile..and see..if they may be willing to accept your application.
Here is the list of recognized educational institutes participating in OCWP & PGWP:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/institutions/participants.asp
Most of these Master intakes start in Sept.,and you can look forward to apply for next year intake.

Masters in technical courses/engineering/applied sciences is any day better than college level PG certificates. If you are not interested in research, you can try finding course based Masters. I would reccomend to try for Master degrees 1st. Few of us who are not eligible for Master degrees or cannot get into affordable universities, often choose PG certificates in colleges, so you should try and see..if you may be getting admission to a Master degree or not.

In case, you really want to go now..then you can go for 1 year PG certificate courses, like the one in Sheridan you mentioned above. But, even if you are doing a PG certificate, atleast make sure you do a 2 years course, which will make you eligible for a 3 years PGWP.

Most of these recognized colleges are, in my opinion are more or less same..and cannot compare in any ways to the standard, course content, experience and depth of Master degrees in recognized universities. Colleges are really good for hands on learning - trade courses, apprenticeships and practical job ready courses such as Hospitality etc. Master degrees will create a bigger impact on your resume, and definitely open up wider opportunities for jobs and success as compared to college PG certificates. That doesn't mean all PG certificates are not worth it... as getting a job ultimately depend son your talent,skills,ability to network..and a bit of luck.

Hope it helps.

Best of Luck.

***All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too.

 

[avd91]

Thank you for the information tiger!
Since I wish to go for the january '13 intake, universities available are almost negligible. Also, no two year PG courses in computers are available in colleges for winter 2013. So, I'm planning to do two back to back one year graduate certificate courses in computers from colleges.
I wanted to know how to go about it.
What all formalities do i need to complete?
Is there a chance of getting a 3 yr PGWP after these two courses?
If yes what would be the credit requirements?

Thanks again for your help!

 

[tiger007]

Thank you for the information tiger!
Since I wish to go for the january '13 intake, universities available are almost negligible. Also, no two year PG courses in computers are available in colleges for winter 2013. So, I'm planning to do two back to back one year graduate certificate courses in computers from colleges.
I wanted to know how to go about it.
What all formalities do i need to complete?
Is there a chance of getting a 3 yr PGWP after these two courses?
If yes what would be the credit requirements?

Thanks again for your help!

Hi,

Doing two 1year back to back courses will not give 100% guarantee of 3 years PGWP, although chances are high, if you study atleast 36 credit hours per year.
In this case, enroll in one course, get visa..go to Canada, complete the course, and then extend your study visa and enroll in the 2nd PG course.

Procedure:
You select a course, apply for the offer letter by paying requires application fees. After you receive the offer letter, you usually pay the 1st sem tuition fees, or some amount as tuition deposit to confirm the seat and get LOA-letter of approval. Then apply for an educational loan form a bank (as per SPP checklist)... and along with all the required documents, as mentioned in the checklist of study visa application and apply for visa under SPP or GENERAL category.

Since, you are a recent graduate, and Sheridan College Institute of Technology & Advanced Learning falls under SPP, I would strongly suggest you to apply under SPP.

To Know more about Canadian study permits:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/index.asp
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/study/study.asp

Follow the checklist and apply under general or SPP visa category.
GENERAL: http://www.vfs-canada.co.in/pdf/study_permit_17-05-2012.pdf
SPP : http://www.vfs-canada.co.in/pdf/Student_Partners_Program_(SPP)_in_india_190412.pdf


***All opinions expressed are purely personal, and pieces of information mentioned are to the best of my knowledge... You should consult other sources too.

 

[dubaitotoronto]

Thank you very much TIGER007. I have band 7 in IELTS.

 

[avd91]

Thank you so much for helping tiger.
The course I've selected is the database aplication developer from Seneca College of Applied arts and technology.
The requirements for that course mentioned either a degree with an IT background or a Non-IT one with appropriate knowledge of Programming. Since i'm from a non-IT background, I've done courses in programming after my graduation. I'd mailed the same to Seneca college and they said I'm eligible for the course.
But would this change of stream from Electronics and telecommunication to Computers/IT pose a threat of visa rejection. I'm really worried about that.