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Assessment Stage: Additional Information / Documents - Doubts

tokrithi

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Hi,

I have received mail from OINP to provide additional information/documents:

-- Income tax documents for 2013, 2014 and 2015.
-- Most recent bank assessment showing all assets.
-- Explanations of the source of all deposits greater than $500CAD and proof that they are not encumbered.

Doubts:

-- Income tax docs for eg. 2013 --> Does it mean FY 2013-2014 or FY 2012-2013.
-- Bank assessment showing all assets --> What do they mean by bank assessment? Is it just a bank statement or something different? Should I show ONLY my savings and fixed deposits OR all assets like house, land, etc.? Reason for my doubt is if we show more assets, will it create a negative impact if OINP thinks that we are attached to our home country?
-- Explanations & proofs - I have few cash deposits greater than $500CAD from my parents. How do I prove that they not encumbered; do I use stamp paper and explain this with my parents' signature?

Appreciate your responses.
 

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tokrithi said:
Hi,

I have received mail from OINP to provide additional information/documents:

-- Income tax documents for 2013, 2014 and 2015.
-- Most recent bank assessment showing all assets.
-- Explanations of the source of all deposits greater than $500CAD and proof that they are not encumbered.

Doubts:

-- Income tax docs for eg. 2013 --> Does it mean FY 2013-2014 or FY 2012-2013.
-- Bank assessment showing all assets --> What do they mean by bank assessment? Is it just a bank statement or something different? Should I show ONLY my savings and fixed deposits OR all assets like house, land, etc.? Reason for my doubt is if we show more assets, will it create a negative impact if OINP thinks that we are attached to our home country?
-- Explanations & proofs - I have few cash deposits greater than $500CAD from my parents. How do I prove that they not encumbered; do I use stamp paper and explain this with my parents' signature?

Appreciate your responses.
You answered your own questions, here..

Submit tax documents for the years you claimed work experience, if you're not sure, submit multiple years.
Bank statement with all assets is usually a letter from the bank saying person has 1 current account with $xxx, 2 savings accounts with $xxx, $xxx etc. If you are concerned submit 6 months of statements from the account you have the money in. They know you will have ties to your country now. And in the explanation and proves you could explain any funds over $500 or the assets you have and that you intend to sell them. If there is a huge sum of money deposited at some point then explain it as best you can :)
 

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kryt0n said:
You answered your own questions, here..

Submit tax documents for the years you claimed work experience, if you're not sure, submit multiple years.
Bank statement with all assets is usually a letter from the bank saying person has 1 current account with $xxx, 2 savings accounts with $xxx, $xxx etc. If you are concerned submit 6 months of statements from the account you have the money in. They know you will have ties to your country now. And in the explanation and proves you could explain any funds over $500 or the assets you have and that you intend to sell them. If there is a huge sum of money deposited at some point then explain it as best you can :)
What in case the payment for an internship was in cheque and you cannot provide income tax documents as you did not have the opportunity to file as you left the country afterwards? Also, you got reference letters mentioning the duties performed but not the wage earned because of confidentiality. However, it is confirmed that you undertake the internship because it had allowed you to acquire a professional designation like accountant upon fulfilment of articling for instance?
 

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Elrud said:
What in case the payment for an internship was in cheque and you cannot provide income tax documents as you did not have the opportunity to file as you left the country afterwards? Also, you got reference letters mentioning the duties performed but not the wage earned because of confidentiality. However, it is confirmed that you undertake the internship because it had allowed you to acquire a professional designation like accountant upon fulfilment of articling for instance?
Erm, as for the tax thing, you can file taxes from anywhere in the world. When we left Canada we filed taxes 4 months later to make sure we were square. When we left NZ we filed taxes a few months later. Not filing taxes never has an excuse unless you are dead or in the military.
The reference letter with duties could be solved by getting a colleague to right them and getting them notorised or even a signed avidavit by yourself.
 

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Erm, as for the tax thing, you can file taxes from anywhere in the world. When we left Canada we filed taxes 4 months later to make sure we were square. When we left NZ we filed taxes a few months later. Not filing taxes never has an excuse unless you are dead or in the military.
The reference letter with duties could be solved by getting a colleague to right them and getting them notorised or even a signed avidavit by yourself.
I mean outside Canada, for some countries it was not online before.

Also did only the reference letter for work experience outside Canada suffice mentioning all duties by previous employer but without mention of salary. However, you also have proof that you got professional designation like Accountant upon fulfilment of an articling? Will that suffice?
 

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Elrud said:
I mean outside Canada, for some countries it was not online before.

Also did only the reference letter for work experience outside Canada suffice mentioning all duties by previous employer but without mention of salary. However, you also have proof that you got professional designation like Accountant upon fulfilment of an articling? Will that suffice?
The reference letter is pretty important. It has to mention salary. If it doesn't then things like your tax return can prove what you were paid. If you don't have that then pay stubs.

As for not being online, there is still regular post. I had to post new zealand tax documents from the UK. I had to pay USA tax via post from the UK. Not having paid tax can look bad and that's why they ask for it.

Just provide as much documentation as you can.
 

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Elrud said:
I mean outside Canada, for some countries it was not online before.

Also did only the reference letter for work experience outside Canada suffice mentioning all duties by previous employer but without mention of salary. However, you also have proof that you got professional designation like Accountant upon fulfilment of an articling? Will that suffice?
For some occupations, there are confidentiality clause, to not mention commission/salary and that is implied after you left the employment.
 

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The reference letter is pretty important. It has to mention salary. If it doesn't then things like your tax return can prove what you were paid. If you don't have that then pay stubs.

As for not being online, there is still regular post. I had to post new zealand tax documents from the UK. I had to pay USA tax via post from the UK. Not having paid tax can look bad and that's why they ask for it.

Just provide as much documentation as you can.
I mean if payment was in cheque and there's no proof of pay stub. That's strange why they require that; normally it is breach if you have to disclose salary as it might impact a firm's reputation.
 

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Elrud said:
For some occupations, there are confidentiality clause, to not mention commission/salary and that is implied after you left the employment.
Indeed, so pay stubs or bank transfers or salary should suffice. That or a letter from the employer which states the employee cannot legally mention salary.
 

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Elrud said:
I mean if payment was in cheque and there's no proof of pay stub. That's strange why they require that; normally it is breach if you have to disclose salary as it might impact a firm's reputation.
No, a reference letter has to state salary. It's mandatory. If you can't then you submit the letter or contract stating you cannot reveal the salary.
 

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No, a reference letter has to state salary. It's mandatory. If you can't then you submit the letter or contract stating you cannot reveal the salary.
Thanks.
 

tokrithi

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kryt0n said:
You answered your own questions, here..

Submit tax documents for the years you claimed work experience, if you're not sure, submit multiple years.
Bank statement with all assets is usually a letter from the bank saying person has 1 current account with $xxx, 2 savings accounts with $xxx, $xxx etc. If you are concerned submit 6 months of statements from the account you have the money in. They know you will have ties to your country now. And in the explanation and proves you could explain any funds over $500 or the assets you have and that you intend to sell them. If there is a huge sum of money deposited at some point then explain it as best you can :)
Thanks, kryt0n, for your answers. A few more doubts have risen.

They have asked me to provide:
1) Most recent bank assessments showing all assets.
2) 6 months of most recent bank statements.

For point 1, should I get letter from bank to show fixed assets like house, land etc. AND liquid assets like cash, savings account, etc?

Please suggest.
 

kryt0n

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tokrithi said:
Thanks, kryt0n, for your answers. A few more doubts have risen.

They have asked me to provide:
1) Most recent bank assessments showing all assets.
2) 6 months of most recent bank statements.

For point 1, should I get letter from bank to show fixed assets like house, land etc. AND liquid assets like cash, savings account, etc?

Please suggest.
Not sure about the house, but providing your liquid assets meets the cut off then you're good to go. I'd submit both letter and statements :)
 

tokrithi

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kryt0n said:
Not sure about the house, but providing your liquid assets meets the cut off then you're good to go. I'd submit both letter and statements :)
That really helps to clarify. Appreciate your support.