Arranged employment

[cathy2381]

The last time i read an article about ARRANGED EMPLOYMENT, it says there that there are two types 1 is if you are out of Canada and an employer offers you permanent job when you get your PR but this one needs AEO.

the other one is...

Permanent job offer from a Canadian employer, without the necessity of HRSDC approval, if, at the time of applying for the Permanent Resident Visa, the applicant is employed in Canada by the same employer, on one of the Temporary Work Permits that allow for arranged employment.

In my case I fall to the second one. I`ve been here in Calgary for almost 3 years now. My employer gave me a letter that they will offer me a permanent fulltime job once I got my PR status. But just this morning, when I was reading the CIC website it says there....

``you must be in a category that is exempt from an Arranged Employment Opinion``

So, does anybody know here where can I find that categoryÉ or is that the same with the 38 list of occupationÉ

Any input will be greatly appreciated!

 

[professional 1]

In my case I fall to the second one. I`ve been here in Calgary for almost 3 years now.

If you are talking about your eligibility to apply under the federal skilled workers category, you are eligible under category three (international students and foreign workers who have been living legally in canada for at least one year).(so no need to worry about your arranged employment offer for the purpose of eligibility)


If you are talking about the arranged employment points that you will be granted, they will award you points only for your arranged offer in canada that falls under level 0 or A or B only as they state at the following link :

http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/resources/manuals/op/op06-eng.pdf

The second paragraph of page 31:


"Note: Arranged employment points are only awarded for occupations listed in Skill Type 0 or Skill Level
A or B of the NOC. If employment is arranged and the required documentation submitted
between application and assessment, officers will award the points for arranged employment."


This is another source assures that arranged employment points will be granted only for occupations listed in skill level 0 or A or B only :


"To obtain points for this factor, you must have a permanent job offer in Canada, be capable of carrying out the work, and likely to accept the job. The job offer must be in an occupation listed in Skill Type 0 or Skill Level A or B of the National Occupational Classification. One of the following situations must also apply."


The source : http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/assess/ArrangeWork.asp


At the first paragraph of the page

 

[cathy2381]

So those are the category exempted from getting AEO from HRDCÉ

Thanks for your time!

 

[professional 1]

So those are the category exempted from getting AEO from HRDCÉ

Thanks for your time!

Which kind of work permit do you have ( i mean at the time of your application for permanent residence ??)

because you say that you have been working in canada for three years is that a post graduation work permit ? post graduation work permit has a maximum validity of three years and you said that you have already finished three years !! so what kind of work permit do you have to answer your question !


those are the categories exmpted from HRSDC conformation :


"your temporary work permit was exempted from the requirement of obtaining a labour market opinion of your job offer from HRSDC on the basis of an international agreement (e.g., NAFTA or GATS), a significant benefit to Canada (e.g., intra-company transfer) or public policy on Canada’s academic or economic competitiveness (e.g., post-graduate work)."

 

[cathy2381]

I am a skilled worker -- chef

 

[professional 1]

I am a skilled worker -- chef

Under which kind of work permit do you work ? because as far as i know that temporary work permits are usually valid for one or two years from the issuance date, and when the workers intend to extend their work permit they arrange with their employers to do so by sponsoring them and getting a positive labour market opinion. do you have a positive labour opinion ?

 

[RITU80]

hi ...even i am a chef working in india ..have applied for PR..
how difficult it is to get a job during this time
thanks ritu

 

[cathy2381]

This is my second job now in Canada. And before my current employer hired me she first got me a new LMO. I am working with this company for almost one year now. My concern is just do I still need to get AEO from HRDCÉ From my understanding, not anymore coz im inside Canada now. All i have to present is a letter from my employer supporting it. Please enlighten me here. Thanks so much!

 

[Leon]

If you are already working in Canada and your work permit is valid, you do not need an AEO, not to apply as an FSW and not to get points for arranged employment. You just need a letter from your employer stating that they offer to continue to employ you after you get your PR.

You can find this in your application guide at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/EG7.pdf on page 14:

You are currently working in Canada on a work permit
•
Your work permit is valid when you apply for a permanent resident visa and
•
Your employer has made an offer to give you a permanent job if your application is successful.
Note: Your work permit must be valid at the time your permanent resident visa is issued.

 

[cathy2381]

If you are already working in Canada and your work permit is valid, you do not need an AEO, not to apply as an FSW and not to get points for arranged employment. You just need a letter from your employer stating that they offer to continue to employ you after you get your PR.

You can find this in your application guide at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/EG7.pdf on page 14:

You are currently working in Canada on a work permit
•
Your work permit is valid when you apply for a permanent resident visa and
•
Your employer has made an offer to give you a permanent job if your application is successful.
Note: Your work permit must be valid at the time your permanent resident visa is issued.

Please be advised I am pursuing Arranged employment for the sake of extra points

 

[cathy2381]

Sorry If I made you confused guys....My concern is do I need to get Arrange employment opinion from service canada or my employer`s letter offering me of continuous PERMANENT position upon receiving my PR status in Canada is fineÉ

Again, I am working with this company as a chef for almost a year now and I also have 1 yr experience back home as a chef.

Thanks for your time!

 

[professional 1]

This is my second job now in Canada. And before my current employer hired me she first got me a new LMO. I am working with this company for almost one year now. My concern is just do I still need to get AEO from HRDCÉ From my understanding, not anymore coz im inside Canada now. All i have to present is a letter from my employer supporting it. Please enlighten me here. Thanks so much!

The answer is NO you still need an AEO confirmed by HRDC to be eligible under category 2 (arranged employment offer).
being working inside canada alone doesn't mean that you are HRDC exempted you have to fall in one of the following to be exempted :

your job offer from HRSDC on the basis of an international agreement (e.g., NAFTA or GATS), a significant benefit to Canada (e.g., intra-company transfer) or public policy on Canada's academic or economic competitiveness (e.g., post-graduate work).



because the above group doesn't need to get labour market opinion at all to work in canada but your case is different, you have needed to get LMO from the beginnig to work and you will still need to renew it to renew your work permit in the future.
that is why i kept asking you which kind of work permit do you have and know i knew the answer.




anyway don't worry because you are eligible under category 3 because you are not HRDC exempted but you have been living in canada legally for at least one year.

 

[Leon]

You don't need an AEO if you are already in Canada working. Read the application guide. I already posted the link. It's very clear. If you are on a valid work permit and have a letter from your employer, you don't need an AEO. An AEO is for people who are outside Canada and haven't started working for their employer yet.

 

[cathy2381]

To Leon, I think we are on the same page. I was just confused when you said ``not to apply as an FSW and not to get points for arranged employment`` anyway I got your point.

To Professional, I am not saying you were wrong but I think I need more advice and weigh things out. I appreciate all of your Ideas.

I need more input please.

If you are already working in Canada and your work permit is valid, you do not need an AEO, not to apply as an FSW and not to get points for arranged employment. You just need a letter from your employer stating that they offer to continue to employ you after you get your PR.

You can find this in your application guide at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/EG7.pdf on page 14:

You are currently working in Canada on a work permit
•
Your work permit is valid when you apply for a permanent resident visa and
•
Your employer has made an offer to give you a permanent job if your application is successful.
Note: Your work permit must be valid at the time your permanent resident visa is issued.

 

[professional 1]

If you are already working in Canada and your work permit is valid, you do not need an AEO, not to apply as an FSW and not to get points for arranged employment. You just need a letter from your employer stating that they offer to continue to employ you after you get your PR.

Leon

LEON with all respect your information are not true

read this link page 31 : the three options in regard to arranged employment category :

http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/resources/manuals/op/op06-eng.pdf

she is not HRDC exempted becuase she needed to get one from the beginning to work and when she apply under that category she will need to provide the HRDC confirmation as stated in the link.

she will be only exempted from HRDC if she fall under one of the following :

your temporary work permit was exempted from the requirement of obtaining a labour market opinion of your job offer from HRSDC on the basis of an international agreement (e.g., NAFTA or GATS), a significant benefit to Canada (e.g., intra-company transfer) or public policy on Canada's academic or economic competitiveness (e.g., post-graduate work)."


being working inside canada alone doesn't mean that you are HRDC exempted you have to fall in one of the HRDC exempted as above