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Applying to renew PR - immigration officer took away my record of landing

Narm

Full Member
Feb 16, 2016
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Hello,

I'm applying next week to renew my PR and I have almost every document ready to be sent when I saw this:

"One (1) secondary identity document

A copy of one of the following:

your Record of Landing (IMM 1000) or Confirmation of Permanent Residence (IMM 5292 or IMM 5688) or
your valid provincial driver’s license, or
your valid provincial photo-identity card, or
your valid student card issued from a provincially accredited college or university
Format: Clear and legible photocopy

Note: You are strongly encouraged to submit two (2) secondary identity documents in the event that additional documents are required and to prevent delays in the processing of your application."


I have my valid provincial driver’s license copy to send to them and I thought I had the record of landing with me to send too but I remembered the immigration officer took away that from my passport when I came from holidays in the airport 4 years ago after my PR was approved. The officer said at that time that the immigration visa on the passport that is attached would be just as good. Can I use the immigration Visa (IMM 5292) as another identity document?? and for the future Canadian Citizenship as the record of Landing?

Any help would be great! Thank you very much in advance!
 

dpenabill

VIP Member
Apr 2, 2010
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Narm said:
Hello,

I'm applying next week to renew my PR and I have almost every document ready to be sent when I saw this:

"One (1) secondary identity document

A copy of one of the following:

your Record of Landing (IMM 1000) or Confirmation of Permanent Residence (IMM 5292 or IMM 5688) or
your valid provincial driver’s license, or
your valid provincial photo-identity card, or
your valid student card issued from a provincially accredited college or university
Format: Clear and legible photocopy

Note: You are strongly encouraged to submit two (2) secondary identity documents in the event that additional documents are required and to prevent delays in the processing of your application."


I have my valid provincial driver’s license copy to send to them and I thought I had the record of landing with me to send too but I remembered the immigration officer took away that from my passport when I came from holidays in the airport 4 years ago after my PR was approved. The officer said at that time that the immigration visa on the passport that is attached would be just as good. Can I use the immigration Visa (IMM 5292) as another identity document?? and for the future Canadian Citizenship as the record of Landing?

Any help would be great! Thank you very much in advance!
You can indeed, should indeed, use IMM 5292 if that is what you have. But this is not an immigration visa. Form IMM 5292 is a CoPR (Confirmation of Permanent Residence).

This is an important document to keep.
 

Narm

Full Member
Feb 16, 2016
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dpenabill said:
You can indeed, should indeed, use IMM 5292 if that is what you have. But this is not an immigration visa. Form IMM 5292 is a CoPR (Confirmation of Permanent Residence).

This is an important document to keep.
Thank you for your answer. I don't have the IMM 5292, I only have the Immigration Visa. Can I still send my application to renew my PR with just the copy of my valid provincial driver’s license copy as the secondary identity document? Will that be enough ?

Another question (if you know), I'm eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship and I don't have the record of landing due to the problem that I already mentioned. Will I need to get a copy of the record of landing before I submit teh application Canadian citizenship?

Thanks again!
 

kash123

Newbie
Feb 18, 2016
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you should write a letter to CIC ... IMM 5292 is a document you will need over and over .. there should be a stamp on your passport too with relevant numbers the first time you landed

this will help
 

Narm

Full Member
Feb 16, 2016
30
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kash123 said:
you should write a letter to CIC ... IMM 5292 is a document you will need over and over .. there should be a stamp on your passport too with relevant numbers the first time you landed

this will help

Thank you for your answer. I'm not sure what I would say if I write a letter to CIC...I know the airport where my record of landing was taken away but I can't remember the office that did that, also I wouldn't know how to prove that. There is a stamp indeed on my passport with numbers the first time I landed though. What's the fastest way of solving this? I know the letter could take some time.....
 

dpenabill

VIP Member
Apr 2, 2010
6,438
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Narm said:
Thank you for your answer. I don't have the IMM 5292, I only have the Immigration Visa. Can I still send my application to renew my PR with just the copy of my valid provincial driver’s license copy as the secondary identity document? Will that be enough ?

Another question (if you know), I'm eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship and I don't have the record of landing due to the problem that I already mentioned. Will I need to get a copy of the record of landing before I submit teh application Canadian citizenship?

Thanks again!
Sooner rather than later, you should apply for a Verification of Status document which contains the historical information of your landing and becoming a PR. This document is not a Travel Document and not an identity document. But then neither was a Record of Landing or CoPR.

Do NOT write a letter.

See the following CIC websites, one with link to application form, the other is the guide for making this application:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/certcopy.asp

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5545ETOC.asp

In the meantime, the instructions for the PR card application require you to submit a copy of your passport and state that you should include a photo-copy of the page stamped when you landed -- this page should have affixed to it the cancelled PR visa, so you need to submit this anyway. (Moreover, as proof of compliance with the PR Residency Obligation, the applicant is instructed to include photo-copy of all passport pages anyway.)

A clear and legible photo-copy of your provincial drivers license (front and back) should suffice as your secondary ID. The instructions do not list a provincial health care card, but if you have one with your photo, and you want to submit two secondary IDs, you could try including that (will not hurt). So long as your drivers license is a decent photo and otherwise legible, just including it without another form of ID should be OK.


Some observations: frankly it is a bit odd that a border officer would take your copy of either your Record of Landing or CoPR; explanation does not make much sense. But I suppose it is what it is.

In any event, I infer you landed within the last decade, and if this is correct you never had a "Record of Landing;" rather, when your passport was sent or returned to you with the PR visa affixed in it, you were also given multiple copies of the CoPR form in use at that time (either IMM 5292 or IMM 5688), and when you did the landing itself, the officer processing you completed that form, the CoPR, kept all but one of the copies of the CoPR and returned one to you. Many times the officer staples this to the page in the passport where the PR visa was affixed. (I soon, after getting my SIN, carefully removed it from my passport, photo-copied it, and put it in safe storage.)

Since you do not have this now, you should do the application for Verification of Status so that you have an official record of your landing.
 

Narm

Full Member
Feb 16, 2016
30
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dpenabill said:
Sooner rather than later, you should apply for a Verification of Status document which contains the historical information of your landing and becoming a PR. This document is not a Travel Document and not an identity document. But then neither was a Record of Landing or CoPR.

Do NOT write a letter.

See the following CIC websites, one with link to application form, the other is the guide for making this application:


In the meantime, the instructions for the PR card application require you to submit a copy of your passport and state that you should include a photo-copy of the page stamped when you landed -- this page should have affixed to it the cancelled PR visa, so you need to submit this anyway. (Moreover, as proof of compliance with the PR Residency Obligation, the applicant is instructed to include photo-copy of all passport pages anyway.)

A clear and legible photo-copy of your provincial drivers license (front and back) should suffice as your secondary ID. The instructions do not list a provincial health care card, but if you have one with your photo, and you want to submit two secondary IDs, you could try including that (will not hurt). So long as your drivers license is a decent photo and otherwise legible, just including it without another form of ID should be OK.


Some observations: frankly it is a bit odd that a border officer would take your copy of either your Record of Landing or CoPR; explanation does not make much sense. But I suppose it is what it is.

In any event, I infer you landed within the last decade, and if this is correct you never had a "Record of Landing;" rather, when your passport was sent or returned to you with the PR visa affixed in it, you were also given multiple copies of the CoPR form in use at that time (either IMM 5292 or IMM 5688), and when you did the landing itself, the officer processing you completed that form, the CoPR, kept all but one of the copies of the CoPR and returned one to you. Many times the officer staples this to the page in the passport where the PR visa was affixed. (I soon, after getting my SIN, carefully removed it from my passport, photo-copied it, and put it in safe storage.)

Since you do not have this now, you should do the application for Verification of Status so that you have an official record of your landing.
Thank you very much, this is an excellent answer and really helpful!! About why the officer removed my record of landing that was stapled to my old passport, I will never know why, but I do know now that I need that! I will definitely take your advice and do the application for Verification of Status right after I send my application to renew my PR (in a few days).

Thank you very much again!
 

sarahnai

Newbie
Sep 4, 2016
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Hi there, I have come across the same issue - when I landed the immigration officer took the form out of my passport and I did not have the foresight to copy it beforehand. Can I ask how you got on with renewing your PR card? I am applying for citizenship and it requires the same form, but also states you can write and let them know why you don't have the form anymore. I was thinking of doing this, and sending it along with the crossed out visa and original stamp from when I landed. I would hate for there to be a delay however, and if I lost the fee...