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titosyr

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Hi everyone, my name is Tito and this is my first post in the forum!
It is pleasure to be here. :)

I have submitted my Application last year to CIC and received recently the invitation for an interview which is great!
But yesterday I was preparing and arranging the papers required and I discover that I failed to mention two trips to the US, both of the them were about 4 hours in different days, the first one I was renting a trailer from Champlain and the other one I was riding my Motorcycle from Cornwal to Fort Convicton in NY state... :-[

I also noticed that there is a lot of Canadian entry stamps missing from my passport! in the past few years before submitting my application I travelled a lot to the US for work -kinda Business and training trips-(about 20 times) and most of the time I came back tiered or very late at in the night and I failed to notice that many times the CBSA officer did not stamp my passport!! :-[

do you guys think that they will hand me RQ because I failed to mention those two trips although it doesn't effect numbers of day of my residency (physical presence in Canada 1263 days) :-X

I am actually sad and very nervous for the interview, what you think will happen?

Thanks in advance

Tito
 

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If you're saying they were same-day trips ("4 hours in different days"), there is no requirement to report them. As to the missing entry stamps, the entry still may have been captured by the CBSA and will appear on your report.

There are actually two types of report: Traveller Passage Report and Highway Passage Report. The first goes by name, the second by licence plate number. People who request their report should request both, if they entered Canada from the U.S. by car (or, in your case, motorcycle). In my spouse's case, nearly 20 entries didn't show up on the Traveller Passage Report, though all but one of those appeared on the Highway Passage Report.

Note that if you request the Highway Passage Report, you need to attach a copy of your plate information (car registration) with the request.
 

thecoolguysam

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titosyr said:
Hi everyone, my name is Tito and this is my first post in the forum!
It is pleasure to be here. :)

I have submitted my Application last year to CIC and received recently the invitation for an interview which is great!
But yesterday I was preparing and arranging the papers required and I discover that I failed to mention two trips to the US, both of the them were about 4 hours in different days, the first one I was renting a trailer from Champlain and the other one I was riding my Motorcycle from Cornwal to Fort Convicton in NY state... :-[

I also noticed that there is a lot of Canadian entry stamps missing from my passport! in the past few years before submitting my application I travelled a lot to the US for work -kinda Business and training trips-(about 20 times) and most of the time I came back tiered or very late at in the night and I failed to notice that many times the CBSA officer did not stamp my passport!! :-[

do you guys think that they will hand me RQ because I failed to mention those two trips although it doesn't effect numbers of day of my residency (physical presence in Canada 1263 days) :-X

I am actually sad and very nervous for the interview, what you think will happen?

Thanks in advance

Tito
As alphazip said, day trips doesn't need to be declared so you are fine here.

When you entered Canada, did you enter by land or air or both.
If you enter by land, CBSA officer will just scan the PR card and will let you in without stamping your passport.
If you arrived by air and went to automatic kiosk to scan pr card, even then the passport is not stamped.
In both such cases, if PR card is scanned then there is an entry made into the system automatically after scanning the pr card.
 

titosyr

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alphazip said:
There are actually two types of report: Traveller Passage Report and Highway Passage Report. The first goes by name, the second by licence plate number. People who request their report should request both, if they entered Canada from the U.S. by car (or, in your case, motorcycle). In my spouse's case, nearly 20 entries didn't show up on the Passage Report, though all but one of those appeared on the Highway Passage Report.

Note that if you request the Highway Passage Report, you need to attach a copy of your plate information (car registration) with the request.
Thank you alphazip
I never ordered those two reports, I didn't know that I should've! :-[
 

titosyr

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thecoolguysam said:
As alphazip said, day trips doesn't need to be declared so you are fine here.

When you entered Canada, did you enter by land or air or both.
If you enter by land, CBSA officer will just scan the PR card and will let you in without stamping your passport.
If you arrived by air and went to automatic kiosk to scan pr card, even then the passport is not stamped.
In both such cases, if PR card is scanned then there is an entry made into the system automatically after scanning the pr card.
Thanks thecoolguysam
Most of my trips were by air, there was no Kiosks at that time, but the missing stamps I think they were from the time I was driving! almost sure!
Don't you thing those two reports should be already with the CIC, in the application there was one option to check allowing them to communicate with CBSA and get this information directly!

Thanks again guys for replying!
 

thecoolguysam

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titosyr said:
Thanks thecoolguysam
Most of my trips were by air, there was no Kiosks at that time, but the missing stamps I think they were from the time I was driving! almost sure!
Don't you thing those two reports should be already with the CIC, in the application there was one option to check allowing them to communicate with CBSA and get this information directly!

Thanks again guys for replying!
You should only order these reports if you don't remember about the number of trips or number of days you have spent outside canada in USA. You can order them for your personal reference. Cic will extract CBSA report by themselves.
If you were driving then it means you travelled by land by car, then you must have stopped at CBSA port of entry and the officer just would have asked you questions and scanned your pr card and would have let you in. Were you ever taken to inspection booth at the land border for stamping or anything else? If not then they must have scanned your PR card to let you in. Unless you request they won't stamp your passport during land travel and same applies if you arrive by air and use automatic kiosks.
CBSA will only order your name's report using your pr card, your past 4 years of Passport Information. I don't think they will order your car report because they would not have your license plate number with them unless you have provided them with your car registration documents during your application submission which I think most likely you haven't done. By the way you are not supposed to send your vehicle information during initial citizenship application
 

titosyr

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Thanks a lot for this explanation bro, This clarify a lot to me about the process.

As a matter of fact, I was pulled one time by CBSA for secondary inspection.
and one other time I forgot my PR at home and travelled to the US over weekend, the agent was amazingly nice and she allowed me to enter Canada without the PR card! but she made many calls with her superior and to CIC centre
for that particular incident there was no stamping as well!!
 

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titosyr said:
Thank you alphazip
I never ordered those two reports, I didn't know that I should've! :-[
In our case, we live in a border city (Windsor) and had a large number of crossings to deal with. So, we ordered the report to confirm our dates. As I mentioned, the CBSA name-only report missed nearly 20 entries, most of which were caught by the licence-plate report (licenCe is the official spelling in Canada, licenSe in the U.S.). If we didn't order the reports, CIC could challenge the dates. Now, however, we have the licence-plate report as proof.
 

thecoolguysam

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I am not sure about commercial bus entries to Canada. I think everyone is taken down from the bus for checking their immigration documents like pr cards.
I can say that the will scan the pr card but i am not sure whether they will print a stamp or not.

Regarding missing entries into Canada, there is a record correction form that you can submit with supporting documents to show that you were back to Canada.

@alphazip

i know that if you order traveller passage report and if it has missing entries then you can order the highway passage report for the vehicle licence plate#
I think they can still question the highway passage report because of the following two reasons:

1. Car is registered in your name but your family member could have taken the car to USA for travel. It means there would be no solid proof that you went to USA and came back.

2. Car is registered on someone else name and you drove the car across the border and came back . It would also not be a solid proof that you went and came back in that car.

However, getting highway passage report might will help upto some extend.
 

titosyr

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Thank you guys for the information,
I feel much better now, since my interview is close Ill wait and see what the officer will say about those trips!
Wish me luck :)
 

RussCan

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titosyr said:
Thank you guys for the information,
I feel much better now, since my interview is close Ill wait and see what the officer will say about those trips!
Wish me luck :)
Good luck titosyr. You will be fine, I am sure!
 

alphazip

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thecoolguysam said:
i know that if you order traveller passage report and if it has missing entries then you can order the highway passage report for the vehicle licence plate#
I think they can still question the highway passage report because of the following two reasons:

1. Car is registered in your name but your family member could have taken the car to USA for travel. It means there would be no solid proof that you went to USA and came back.

2. Car is registered on someone else name and you drove the car across the border and came back . It would also not be a solid proof that you went and came back in that car.

However, getting highway passage report might will help upto some extend.
I would say that having the Highway Passage Report is better than not having it, but everyone can decide for themselves. CIC must realize that CBSA records have a lot of omissions.